Florentina:
YZ?

My typo, I meant Xiao Zhan's financial losses. I wasn't intending to argue with you and rebut your accusations point by point. Life's too short to be spending time doing that. I just wanted to bring another point of view. You can still choose to believe whatever alternative facts you want to. Over and out.

 Florentina:
People, don't ship real people.

Good advice. Someone in this group (RXinw?) recently wrote something related in this group about focusing on the CPs as characters rather than actors, which is likewise what I try to do, at least rationally,

That being said, I viscerally can't help but want certain well-known Thai CPs to be real, but then I tell myself: "Unless they've explicitly outed themselves, stop! Firstly, they're professional actors, and all that flirting and ambiguity is part of the cult of fan service, and secondly, they're people with a right to privacy." This is also a reason why I studiously avoid fanfic about the actors themselves, i.e. to me, this crosses the line between right and wrong. It's about the Golden Rule: If I were an actor or celebrity, this isn't how I would like to be treated. 

P.S. I don't know anything about Xiao Zhan and Wang YiBo, so I'm just commenting in general, not about them.

@axdxex and I are headed to NYC July 12, 2025. And we have one extra ticket (Sorry, I could only get Zone C) to The Heart Killers: Escape to the Americas with First, Khaotung, Joong, and Dunk. Please DM me if you're interested and I can provide details.

No, I did not forget. I fell asleep due to exhaustion. After I woke up I had to finish my speech for an event, then get some food. Anyway, I finally got time to watch and wow what an episode.

My Stubborn - episode 2

*begins channelling my inner Mr. P to filter my words*

Firstly, this series is moving at a steam train's pace, and I do not mind as I prefer fast paced series. However I do fear that it might out pace the plot and result in the addition of unnecessary drama to fill the remaining episodes. Hopefully this does not occur. 

Secondly, the second couple (Thai and Champ) moves a bit too quickly. I would have preferred two or three more episodes to build tension and add depth to their relationship before they kiss. However they kissed this episode, but it was still cute. I hope the writers explore more of their relationship.

Thirdly, Sorn and Jun are basically already a couple; they are in an established relationship without the boyfriend title. They are sexually involved, exclusive (at least Jun is), they both get jealous when one attracts attention of others, kiss all the time, Sorn buys Jun expensive clothes, Sorn drives Jun to work, etc. 

Fourthly, it is conspicuous that both Sorn and Jun are in love with each other and have been for years. Sorn is in denial and Jun's denial is a reaction to Sorn's denial. It is obvious from Jun's smiles and behaviour (willingness to kiss Sorn whenever, jealousy) that all Sorn needs to do is give the green light and he will cling to him like koala to a tree. His messages asking his friend about getting butterflies just substantiates the obvious. Sorn's adamant demand that Jun not get involved with anyone else is clearly jealousy, no matter how much he uses the guise of teaching Jun how to properly kiss. He is not training him for anyone else but himself. I am honestly not sure who fell first, but they both fell hard.

Fifthly, I like Jun's character even more after the store scene. One thing that irritates me series and dramas is when the rich boyfriend offers to spend money and the female/male lead refuses because of pride while being broke as hell! Not my Jun, he did not need to be told twice before letting Sorn buy him that expensive shirt. The way he smiled at the bag back in his apartment tells me one of his love languages is receiving gifts lol and of course physically touch - I am getting there lol 

I look forward to see the rest of this plot unfold; eagerly awaiting episode 3.

🔞🫦

Now, let us talk about that NC scene 🥵 

One thing I like about this series is that they do not wait to give us the steamy scenes; always at the front of the episodes lol

Sorn's hand placement on Jun's ass was doing things to me. Lawd! I had to keep my hands away from my lap. The way he is kneeding them cheeks had me biting my lips to stop sounds from spilling out......let me reel it in lol

The tongue action or as I like to call it the "tongue-fu" was very arousing. Personally, I would like to enroll in Sorn's sex classes. Like sir when is the admission period and I want extra lessons after class - some one on one lessons.

The making out with Jun sitting on top of Sorn's crotch was very arousing, I swear if Jun started swaying his hips I would not be able to come here so early to comment lol. I need to see Jun get on that "bicycle" and ride because right now Rain has first place in the riders' competition with Babe in second place and Sky in third place lol iykyk. Cue the song:

"Aye, gyal, bend yuh back (bend yuh back, gyal)
Bubble pon dat (bubble up, gyal)

And ride 'til di bicycle, bruk off, bruk off (ride)
Ride 'til di bicycle, bruk off, bruk off (ride)"

Then to *finish* it off, them making out while jerking each other off had my eyes glued to the screen watching every hand and muscle movement, Lawd Jesus hold on.......I need a moment, a wave of imagery just hit me *fans self* is it getting hot in here? For community guideline reasons, I will end here:P.S my profile is going to look so amazing after this series wraps up 😈

 p43425:
This is also a reason why I studiously avoid fanfic about the actors themselves, i.e. to me, this crosses the line between right and wrong. It's about the Golden Rule: If I were an actor or celebrity, this isn't how I would like to be treated.

I fear I have crossed that line but it's not to the point of no return yet. I am mostly reading characters fanfics now (mostly Chirisu from AiB) but like.. I used to read RPF of Thai actors and I'm not sure how to feel about that. I even wrote some for a specific pairing I won't name. A mess fr

I used to criticize people who shipped real people and now I'm one of them and want to stop. Do you happen to know on what page RXinw wrote the post? It must have been before I rejoined because I can't recall it.

 Jadeheart:
Something seems familiar between Your Sky and Boys In Love. I can't quite put my finger on it lol.

🤣 🤣 🤣

 Florentina:
Do you happen to know on what page RXinw wrote the post?

Sorry, I don't, which is a shame because it was a good post. It was about a month ago, I think - and I'm not even 100% sure it was RXinw (?). By the way, my criticism of fanfic about actors was directed at the writers, definitely not to you!

 p43425:
Someone in this group (RXinw?

Yup, you are right👌


I wanted to start Boys In love tonight, but maybe sometime next month.


Today was carnival in Jamaica, so there were road marches with music, rum, and of course provocative dancing lol No, I did not attend because I hate crowds, but the music hits good every year:

 Italophilia:

@axdxex and I are headed to NYC July 12, 2025. And we have one extra ticket (Sorry, I could only get Zone C) to The Heart Killers: Escape to the Americas with First, Khaotung, Joong, and Dunk. Please DM me if you're interested and I can provide details.

I hope you both have a great time!! I look forward to pics!!  😍

(I may have already mentioned it but I'll be traveling myself during that time, starting in June with a Stray Kids concert in Chicago, yay me!! I'm so excited I can hardly stand it. I rarely do this, but I'm even shopping for a special fit and getting my hair done. Adding black to my red, lol)


 RXinw:
My Stubborn - episode 2

It's been a LONG time since you've written a book about a drama, lol. You must be really enjoying this one, which is great. I read up to, but not including the NC section, haha!

 RXinw:
P.S my profile is going to look so amazing after this series wraps up 😈

No kidding!  💀 👀

RXinw’s post just reminded me to finish my own lol (Sunday = Laundry day, but I’m over it.)

This episode is 50x better than ep1, no contest. We get to see more of the characters, more of the bg between Thai, Jun, Sorn, etc. AND the NC scene is good—

I’m honestly impressed since I was ready to write this off as an enjoyable trainwreck.

Now on to the actual episode!!!

This is so messy 🤣 their relationship is so strange because part of the reason it’s gotten to this point is because underneath all the ‘hate,’ Jun TRUST and RESPECTS Sorn, to the point were he can be vulnerable with him.

BUT I don’t know if Sorn is worthy of that respect because despite appearing more mature— he doesn’t know what the hell he wants 😅 plus why is he acting horny at the office 🤣

He’s so confusing!!!

He freaking let Jun sleep in his arms, he made him breakfast, packed him freaking lunch, he folds so easily to Jun’s request and whims, is posessive, all the meanwhile making Jun feel insecure about himself. Oh! And his excuse for all of this is that he’s the self appointed teacher. Sure, Jan. 

BUT ALSO JUN!

I don’t think he currently sees Sorn as a potential lover 🤣 the way he talked to Win about him in front of him? Lol But that’s quickly changing according to the preview.

Now— Thai and Champ. Adorable. I love them. They look so good together. And we got a kiss scene!

 RXinw:

I pay zero attention to the directors and writers lol. I just watch a series as it is presented, I avoid behind the scenes, interviews, promotional events, actors' private lives, etc. If it is an actor that I like the most I will go is an IG follow for pictures. Anything that will break the reality created in the series, I avoid it. That way the series is preserved in my mind, and I see characters not actors. As it relates to major news about actors, that I cannot avoid as I am constantly interacting in BL spaces, but I do not normally dig deeper than headlines.

However, you do have a great point in looking at series based on who made them. It could save you from watching series that you will not like. I might just try it.

I think this is what you are referring to Mr.P

If not I do not know because I talk way too much in this club lollll

 Italophilia:
with First, Khaotung, Joong, and Dunk. Please DM me if you're interested and I can provide details.

I'll be in NYC in a few weeks, but sadly not on July 12. However, if you can arrange an intimate private hour 90 minutes for me with Dunk, it might motivate me to change my travel plans.

 RXinw:
I think this is what you are referring to Mr.P

Yes, that's the post - especially the operative words "I see characters not actors". You are wise beyond your years, young Jedi.

 Indie Art Girl:

I hope you both have a great time!! I look forward to pics!!  😍

(I may have already mentioned it but I'll be traveling myself during that time, starting in June with a Stray Kids concert in Chicago, yay me!! I'm so excited I can hardly stand it. I rarely do this, but I'm even shopping for a special fit and getting my hair done. Adding black to my red, lol)


It's been a LONG time since you've written a book about a drama, lol. You must be really enjoying this one, which is great. I read up to, but not including the NC section, haha!

Yesss! I’m excited!

I totally get you! I love putting outfits together for concerts, it adds to the whole experience! I’m an NCTzen/Carat so for one concert I once wore a green faux fur jacket that resembled an outfit Mark once wore 🤣 I’ve also done SVT themed nails 😅