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GMMTV is listed as an original network for IFYLitA in the page's sidebar but I can't find it on their youtube so I guess the listing is either a mistake or maybe they had broadcast rights and not online ones? I have it in my head that some of the conversation about broadcast time slots necessitating cut versions came from questions about IFYLitA specifically and Line & Youku both seem to be online only. But maybe I read it about something else when IFLYitA was the one everyone was talking about and I conflated the two?

 Elisheva:

GMMTV is listed as an original network for IFYLitA in the page's sidebar but I can't find it on their youtube so I guess the listing is either a mistake or maybe they had broadcast rights and not online ones? I have it in my head that some of the conversation about broadcast time slots necessitating cut versions came from questions about IFYLitA specifically and Line & Youku both seem to be online only. But maybe I read it about something else when IFLYitA was the one everyone was talking about and I conflated the two? 

I didn't think IFYLitA has anything to do with GMMTV, as it seems so different from all of their works.  

A YT list of upcoming BL dramas. A few new titles I didn't know about yet. 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOFYunvho4c

 Elisheva:

You haven't seen Not Me then? It's very different - dark, gritty, intense, at times difficult to watch - and exceptionally good. 

I agree as an off/gun fan, theory of love and not me are my favourites.

Hey All it’s been a while.

For me BL is gay drama;  although majority tend to be on the lighter side. I’m  waiting for the industry to view these dramas as simply dramas … that happen to have two males leads instead of a female male combo. Especially given audience trends seem to lean towards a more mature content (or maybe that’s just me).

Anyone else watching Pit Babe? I’m really enjoying it. So far the role was made for Pavel.

 MonEliz:

Hey All it’s been a while.

For me BL is gay drama;  although majority tend to be on the lighter side. I’m  waiting for the industry to view these dramas as simply dramas … that happen to have two males leads instead of a female male combo. Especially given audience trends seem to lean towards a more mature content (or maybe that’s just me).

Anyone else watching Pit Babe? I’m really enjoying it. So far the role was made for Pavel.

I one hundred percent agree with everything you said. 

I am loving PitBabe so far.

 MonEliz:

Hey All it’s been a while.

For me BL is gay drama;  although majority tend to be on the lighter side. I’m  waiting for the industry to view these dramas as simply dramas … that happen to have two males leads instead of a female male combo. Especially given audience trends seem to lean towards a more mature content (or maybe that’s just me).

Anyone else watching Pit Babe? I’m really enjoying it. So far the role was made for Pavel.

I also wish those dramas to be just dramas, though I don't wish them (nor they should) to be exactly like straight dramas where they just replace the woman with a man (as it makes no sense). Also, I think there is a difference between gay dramas and BLs, they are not the same thing.  

I also like Pit Babe and Pavel is great (I'm just bummed over other casting decisions, like Charlie). 

 MonEliz:
For me BL is gay drama; although majority tend to be on the lighter side. I’m waiting for the industry to view these dramas as simply dramas … that happen to have two males leads instead of a female male combo. Especially given audience trends seem to lean towards a more mature content

My feelings on all of this are very mixed. I can see how many gay men don't feel represented in BL, but also I know how narrow and cliched representation of women tends to be in any type of drama too. But when I see "mature" offerings like Only Friends, I think of all my gay male friends over the years who HATED hook up culture and that being put forward as representation of gay men. I'd like them better represented too.

I've been thinking a lot about why I never get far from BL these days. Part of it, I think, is that the more mainstream a series the more it leans into the addictive nature of stress and increasingly complicated premises in hopes of standing out amongst the glut of options. BL and youth series haven't had to do that, though I think we might be losing that with BL.

So I both want gay drama to become normalised and fear it becoming mainstream and subjected to the pressures of competing for audience. The former because being gay is normal and the latter because I don't want to lose this niche away from those pressures.

BL has been a great respite for me from the romantacised sexism in het fiction. That's why it upsets me when writers and directors bring it in to a relationship dynamic which can be free from it. Likewise with examples of non-toxic masculinity and support amongst men (like Moonlight Chicken) v red flag leads. I would be more along the lines of "happens to have two male leads" if there was less sexism in het series, but where we are now I need the respite.

Love is love and a good story is a good story but IMO there's more to it than that.

Is anybody watching Cooking Crush? I am a big fan of OffGun and I wanna know if its worth it. I am not so engaged by plots that involve cooking in general but I might just give it a chance since its them.

 Aki0:

Is anybody watching Cooking Crush? I am a big fan of OffGun and I wanna know if its worth it. I am not so engaged by plots that involve cooking in general but I might just give it a chance since its them.

so far it's one of the best series airing right now, not a waste of time . 

You can watch it , it's a new concept

 Aki0:
Is anybody watching Cooking Crush?

I am - and so far, I totally love it.

 Aki0:
Is anybody watching Cooking Crush

Yes so far it is good

 RiqueXinw:

I one hundred percent agree with everything you said. 

I am loving PitBabe so far.

Thanks

 Mitzi Miao:

I also wish those dramas to be just dramas, though I don't wish them (nor they should) to be exactly like straight dramas where they just replace the woman with a man (as it makes no sense). Also, I think there is a difference between gay dramas and BLs, they are not the same thing.  

I also like Pit Babe and Pavel is great (I'm just bummed over other casting decisions, like Charlie). 

I’m still thinking about whether they picked the right actor for Charlie … as he’s suppose to be a large clumsy type. He does fit the sweet natured, caring partner thought and the clumsy.

I just finished watching today's episode of The Sign and damn it's really good. This series has me on the edge of my seat from start to finish there is so much plot and elements and they are holistic in execution. I personally think that the way this series is going it will be the best one released this year hands down. 

I cannot wait for next week.