News Florentina:
@ autumn iris
Yeah I heard some of those things. And I don't care. You don't fine or imprison anyone for writing a fanfic or for writing danmei novels. This isn't the 1500s.
If you cannot support fanfic then say so but don't advocate for people to go to jail smh. Bad look on you. And I thought you were a good person on the forums.
And if I say I wrote an YiZhan fic myself then in your eyes I deserve jail? Be so fucking for real right now. You are a bad person. Evil.
Never feel like a good person. I live as I like. I'm good whenever I want, I'm bad whenever I want. I say whatever I want. It's just that I'm a bit of people pleaser, try to change it but never been able to.
You shouldn't do/support fanfics, it's harmful! I don't know how far people go while doing fanfics, but there's so many names in the world people can use. Why should people do fanfics? Pretty sure that's for the reason I mentioned above. It's for either traffic or money. So yes, fine is good (giving back to the government and society) and if it's causing harm, jail time could be one way to reflect. Even people who posted defamation comments online could face fine and jail time (but sometimes it's just a public apology), why can't people who make fiction using real persons as the characters be fined or jailed? If there's no penalty, it'll keep happening. And if it keeps happening; the actors, the original writers, a lot of people involves and maybe even the readers and the fans will suffer. When Xiao Zhan went on hiatus, who's being sad? He's gone for years. Isn't that sad? When a fine drama set to be filmed got cancelled, who's being sad? They don't even have another 2026 project being set as a replacement. (Eh maybe Peach and Me is that another project.) Isn't that sad? Does The Untamed's original IP writer's other works' censored adaptations ever see the light? I think they'll be shelved forever. Isn't that sad?
A friend of mine was an ARMY and she told me she read fanfics about the members (years ago). Do you know what the fanfics writer did? Making BL and reverse harem (include a girl group member). And I'm the one who's bad you said? Surely they never write 'any resemblance to real life persons and occasions are coincidental?' Never, because it's all intentional.
autumn iris:
Never, because it's all intentional.
Your English is bad too btw. I read BTS fanfics too, a while ago. BL and on one occasion a straight one. They were alright, some are even works of art. You're the problem. Jail time for autumn iris.
Stop replying. There's no redeeming you. You're evil. You're never good btw, you just pretend.
I'll report this thread.
autumn iris:
You shouldn't do/support fanfics, it's harmful!
Please distinguish between fanfiction as a whole and Real Person fiction ("RPF").
And I'd even go a step further: please distinguish between Real Person Fiction of living people and of dead people.
They are not the same.
Fanfiction has existed since people tell each other stories. What else is "Dragon Ball" but a fanfic of "Journey to the West"?
Real Person Fiction of Dead People has also existed for centuries -- what else are what we now consider myths and legends but tellings and re-tellings of a real person's life? And movies based on real stories, like the recent "Oppenheimer"? Fanfiction, basically.
Real Person Fiction of Living People Without Their Consent -- that's where things start to get questionable, because as the author, you'll infringe on their personality rights. The person in question can go after the writer, just as they could do with defamation posts -- but it's not the duty of a government to "regulate" every kind of fiction, just because some egotistical fools can't see the difference between fanfiction of a, well, fictional work and fiction of a real, living and breathing person.
And if there are fools who can't see the difference between an actor and the character they played, and mix up the fictional work and the actors -- well, that's on them.
In short:
Fanfic about "A Dog and a Plane"? Yes!
Fanfic about New and Tay? No.
Thinking a fanfic about "A Dog and a Plane" is about New and Tay? No!
And is the latter the author's problem? Of course not, it's on the reader.
autumn iris:
Why should people do fanfics? Pretty sure that's for the reason I mentioned above. It's for either traffic or money.
That's a very misanthropic take.
I know more than a few fanfic writers personally. They do it for the joy of writing. For the love of the original work. For themselves, because it makes them happy.
If they didn't, they'd never write for small fandoms at all.
Actually, as soon as you make money off it, fanfiction does cross the line into plagiarism, and the original authors can legally do something about it. That's why the Archive of Our Own doesn't even allow authors to link to Ko-Fi or Patreon pages.
And if an author wants to make money later, just "filing off the serial number" (i.e. changing names) doesn't always work. It did for what then became "Fifty Shades of Grey", but not for all of them. For the newer issue of the project you mention, it's more complex -- because it involves Real Person Fiction -- made worse because it was RPF of a person, whose fandom had already lived through the fallout of a RPF fic. Had it simply been a fanfic of a random fictional work, the whole thing would likely have been a non-issue.
So, please don’t generalise, and please don’t accuse others of having malicious intent when the matter is much more nuanced.
Eh? Isn't real person fiction part of fanfiction? But if it's different then it's my bad. I assumed they're the same.
Ahaha, I knew I went too far. I was just so upset about many things related to real person fiction. And I was attacked personally in the first place just because that person didn't agree with my opinion. See that she also attacked my english above. Haha Won't quote since she asked me to stop replying to her.
Anyway I don't know much about fanfiction or real person fiction. It's just as you said (indirectly) that many readers are not wise. It's bad.
I don't know how I feel about Dragon Ball being Journey to the West's fanfiction. I search for it, and apparently according to google AI, Journey to the West is in public domain so there's no need to pay for copyright. Well, so yeah, okay. It's TMI, but I love Trunks btw. And I feel Son Go Ku and Sun Wu Kong are different. In my memory, Son Go Ku is kind without limit and a bit dumb. Sun Wu Kong is quite selfish with big ego and really naughty. My memory could be wrong though.
Definitely homophobic. I'm not calling you a slur or anything but your rejection of same sex love to the point of advocating censorship is homophobia.
If one doesn't like something they simply avoid it. Making your feelings public and with vehemence is called taking a stand again that thing. Anti. You are anti same sex love and there's a formal word for it. There, now you understand yourself better.
woman here, i am into men, and i like gls. i like gls so much more than bls lol. i have watched a handful bls, mostly because i come from anime manga background otaku culture, but they have never been as good as yuri content to me.
i said this early on, and a girl told i was fetishizing lesbians. i am a woman :)
you cannot win arguments with these brain dead ah people. you are right in every way.
bl content that exists globally are made for women by women, almost always have nothing to do with gay men. they are actually fetishizing them.
i would say, that you shouldnt "wish" for bl content to be less. gay people exist and they have every right to have their romance in art and media. but again these bl dramas and shitz are for straight women by straight women.
if you want to consume proper queer media, you should see the ones made by queer artists
@lea
First amendment says people can voice their opinion.
So, the same way some people say, I LIKE BL ; some other people have the right to say I DON'T LIKE BL.
Calling someone homophobic because this person just expressed his rightful opinion. It is not respecting the law and it is not respecting someone else's opinion.
Why do you have the right to have voice you opinion, but the author of this thread doesn't ? Contradictory logic.
This is double standards.
This is my reply to the OP, in terms of what I reckon should be fairness.
If someone says they are homosexual and also says they respect your stance in terms of disliking works with BL and GL, but you have to be able to respect their stance of disliking works with heterosexuality? I'd say it is fair.
If someone says I want to have less works overall being GL (or BL, or heterosexual), that is when it sounds like someone's idea of not liking something is to want censorship of expression and visibility for a specific preference, and that is when the labels such as "homophobia" are likely to be coming in and stick. And be relevant.
"Haikyū" is the slice-of-life volleyball manga from Shonen Jump that also has an anime adaptation.
I think what makes your original post a bit messier is including dislike of RPF (real-person fiction) and sounding as if only BL fans do RPF. Heterosexual RPF is less in volume and numbers than homosexual RPF. Some people have issues with RPF in general, which is understandable.
I don't think this thread should be reported for homophobia, because it is about communication of ideas and exploring the communication differences that happen, and people learning to agree and disagree.
That said, I can see where people are going to call you out for your over-generalisations contributing to making you sound homophobic, especially if you also mention you want less bl works.
[ lots of bl fans are too much. but if i say i wish a certain drama was not bl, damn, the whole herd is after me...! ] - " lots of bl fans are too much." is already an over-generalisation.
"you guys are worshipping bl as if you'd die living a day without whatever bl content it may be. so let people not be into bl." -> Another over-generalisation. When you use at least two or more statements being over-generalisations that negatively insult an entire group unfairly unfairly, you sound homophobic. Is that your intention?
"but if i say i wish a certain drama was not bl, damn, the whole herd is after me...!" -> Are you going on to a specific page where the drama is BL and saying it? Then that makes you look homophobic, and people will be calling you out.
If you are expressing a certain drama should not be BL (perhaps such as Haikyū), what exactly did you say?
Note that I am NOT labelling you as homophobic. I am simply reading the contents of your original post, asking questions, and pointing out why parts of it can come across as homophobic. I am saying there is nothing wrong with someone saying they don't like to see dramas with BL love, GL love, or het love because for me, this also depends on why and how they are saying it.
If someone says they had a bad day at work and this is how they feel for the past ten days? Who hasn't posted in off-times to vent? At the end of the day, I'd rather people talk it out peacefully, and agree to disagree or agree at some point.
As a straight woman, I love hetero romance. I mostly watch that compared to BL or GL (I barely watch GL, but that is because I can't find content as well as BL, I don't like watching Thai or Taiwan drama and I think most GL comes from there), however going back to what I was originally saying I do like BL and GL, but mostly watch hetero. I also do love reading fanfictions, mostly shipping. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and what they like. As long as we respect each other's opinion and we don't call other out and put them down and say they are wrong for an opinion they are entitled to have then that is okay to like what you like. Just respect everyone and be nice. I'm sorry in the past that you were hurt and treated that way for your opinion.

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