I was interested in the 2 fox sis and the ml, but there’s no space for other characters it’s all about the 2ml that is even 4th billing!!! I feel so bad for Zeng. I’m not a fan, but his character was interesting, and I tried to follow his storyline, but he was barely there, and he was supposed to be the ml! Gjm did it again
After watching vos, I appreciate FOF storyline, plot, and characters even more.The narrative, linearity, and coherence…
💯on all. I’ve watched so many dramas but Fof is special so with all the "similarities" Vos have with it I had high expectations. But halfway through with Fof I was completely hooked with like 200 iconic scenes to rewatch, Zyz’s intro, the 1st fight, the prison break, Ll’s intro, Zyz and Wx crying while revealing his identity and thousand, thousand more! And was totally crazy on Zyz from the first sec i saw him! With Vos there’s nothing I’d go back to, and the music is def a turn off Such a letdown.
Agree with this 💯. It’s been quite some time for me, but the mom I saw it I was like wait where have I seen…
IKR?? girl was so gasligting even with that terrible attitude y'all aren't serious, then you need to look it more. So clearly unreasonable, denying it 3 times! when I could just copy and paste it. With all that insistence i could smell something strange from miles away. She made it obvious I was right.
He's using blood that's why it's red. Using two fingers to perform a spell is nothing special or new, almost all…
You need to look better. I’ve watched hundreds of dramas, and t’s always different, not the exact same like in this case, but why so desperate? The moment I saw it, it was clearly the exact same as Zyz. I was so excited to ask if it was related in any way, but I didn’t know I was touching a nerve. The fact that you insist so much on saying otherwise only makes it clearer that you see it too, just don’t want to admit it and even are scared by what I’m saying. If you don't agree move on.
He's using blood that's why it's red. Using two fingers to perform a spell is nothing special or new, almost all…
It’s a spell with blood, but not actually all blood, any color would have worked. He brought his hand to his mouth, which is identical to Zyz. The two-finger spell I saw in another drama is kept far from the body, it just too similar this way. If there’s no connection to it, I’m wondering what the producer was thinking in doing something so identical.
I'm at ep2 why did Wsg bring two fingers to his mouth to perform the spell, when he could have used all his fingers straight to create a gesture more similar to a monk’s?He even holds buds in his hand, which would have suited him better. This seems stolen from Zyz, an exact copy they even used the same red color when they could have used purple, green, blue etc. I know the producer is the same, was this done on purpose to create a link between the two series?
Zyz just has that magic . He’s such a special character. Every time I see him, I can’t help but feel my heart tighten and be fascinated by him, his story, and the way he was portrayed. Different from any other character. Just special. ✨
This drama is so beautiful and sad, Zyz’s story is so tragic, but he is so good. He’s so used to pain, so used to being misunderstood, but he is always so selfless and so understanding toward everyone, demons and humans alike. His goodness breaks my heart, love him. And his voice, what voice! Never heard a demon with such a captivating voice that even adds a more mature hint to a character that’s already perfectly portrayed by Neo. Fantastic. My only 10/10, it would be 1000/10 even just for how Neo brought Zyz to life.
Based on the digging I did lol, fans asked HMH on June 8 when his next drama would be last year and he said July,…
From what I’ve heard, this is not as big an issue in mainland as it is for us int viewers.
Also, HMH cannot simply back out of a contract. Ent-ind contracts are binding in very real legal, financial, and reputational ways. Backing out isn’t a moral gesture, it’s a career-altering move. There are heavy penalties, and I’m not talking only about enormous financial losses, but also professional consequences, such as damage to his reliability and reputation. Backing out of a drama simply because he is uncomfortable with his co-star being too young for the role, or because the casting choice may create complications, is not something he can, or should do. The people who chose her are the ones in the wrong, and they should have corrected that mistake themselves.
You also have to consider that for each project, he makes many meticulous decisions before finally choosing which series to act in. If he chose this drama, it means it had value to him, whether in the character, the production team, or the story itself. He selected this project because he believed it was right for him. He invested time and thought into choosing this one among others, and it is not right to suggest that he should have back out of it, dismissing that entire process, as if his choice was careless or disposable. That is disrespectful to his professionalism.
Not to mention that this project largely rests on his shoulders. His name is what brings in the investment, provides stability and security to the production, and attracts the largest portion of the audience. Walking away wouldn’t just be a personal decision, it would destabilize the entire production. This was his drama from the beginning, his character, his responsibility.
If there was a mistake, it occurred upstream and should have been corrected there. Expecting him to fix someone else’s error at the cost of his own credibility and commitments was never a viable option.
Why does this drama’s rating keep decreasing? A 7.7 is bad, even for a bad drama. This one at least has quality…
the bad ending? I understand why that would be the case. There are very few dramas where a bad ending actually works, and this one started out fluffy, cute, and adorable, a bad ending simply doesn’t suit it. And a bad ending is still a bad ending.
On top of that, this is a bad ending in a loop story! They couldn’t have done worse than this! What were the writers thinking? “Yes, let’s write a love story that goes through three lives in a time loop and end it tragically to make it an infinite bad ending? Like, the King of bad ending! No. The worse bad ending anyone will ever see!” Were they drunk?
Anyway, I’m at episode 10 and I’ve been spoiled about the ending, but I don’t know the details. If you want to reply to my comment, NO SPOILER ON IT, keep everything about the ending generic kk? Ty
Why does this drama’s rating keep decreasing? A 7.7 is bad, even for a bad drama. This one at least has quality in the cast and CGI. Is it because of...
I think that if he were treated the same way fl in other dramas are treated, no one would have complained about…
It feels like, they took only the negative experiences that usually happen to both the male and fl and placed them entirely on the male lead. They forgot to give him all the good a fl have in cdrama tho.
RSB said she was convinced there was no future for their relationship from first , then Why gives LJL false hope…
She doesn’t deserve him. The right happy ending would have been her leaving her toxic family to be with him after he left his, or both of them going their separate ways. She clearly values business more than him, she doesn’t deserve him. And him abandoning everything is so out of character compared to his original strong self. They really ruined his character
! Excellent points.I gotta say, I think RSB has this thing of always being of top. Remember the first episodes?…
I'm sure that, if she hadn’t known who he was, she wouldn’t have saved him, and I’m even more sure that if he hadn’t begged, she still wouldn’t have saved him.
And at this point, I’m only finishing the drama for LJL. I’ve been fast-forwarding almost everything else, which is why I was so frustrated to see that ep 30 gave him barely 60 sec of screen time. 🤦♀️
Tell me if it wouldn’t have made more sense, in every possible way, for LJL to resolve the governor case.
1. From the very first day, LJL was suspicious of the governor and conducted a thorough investigation, so he already knew everything about him. In contrast, the fl suddenly becomes a 360-degree investigator, involved in every possible field. While it is normal for her, as a merchant, to have access to information, knowing so much, so quickly, and even in areas completely outside her competence feels unrealistic.
2. LJL helped the scholar many times, with nothing to gain, when in the rong family. In this drama, nothing happens without a reason, so it would have made perfect sense for LJL, who had a good relationship with the scholar, to ask for a favor as a way to “repay a debt.” Instead, we get the fl making a bet with him, which feels unusual.
3. LJL also helped that (blind)granny before and could have directly asked for her assistance. Yet again, the story has the fl asking the ml to ask the granny for help. Practically the fl needs to use the ml to indirectly access resources and relationships that he already possesses and could have used himself. If LJL had led the plan directly, everything would have worked more naturally and seamlessly.
4.If LJL had used the fl in his plan, without her knowing, then by the end of the case, they would have been on equal footing. Both of them would have resolved their cases by using the other while keeping the other in the dark. That would have created a much more balanced dynamic between them.
Instead, the writers deconstructed LJL’s clever, bold, genius character just to make the fl meddle in multiple fields outside her expertise and emerge with more information than the people who actually work in those fields. That is not only ridiculous, but also completely out of character.
5. Even the fl’s speech about eliminating corrupt officials as a “gift” felt out of place. That kind of moral stance is far more suited to LJL, who is an official and repeatedly emphasizes ethics and principles in his dialogue.
I know what’s done is done, but I don’t understand why the authors felt the need to undermine their own work. A whole drama, ruined for what? Personal preference? What a letdown. So frustrating.
And not to mention the last arc, which is only 6 eps and is supposed to belong to the ml, yet it already starts badly. Ep 30 spends 40 min, yet AGAIN, on the fl and after 30 eps, I genuinely can’t stand it anymore. Meanwhile, the ml gets 2 scene of 30 sec each with no sound, that end with him crying alone in a closed room. We don’t even know what was said to him to make him return, and we probably won’t even get proper clarity, maybe just a rushed explanation later, while more screen time is wasted on the rong family AGAIN. I am so tired of this repetitive tone. Let’s move on from the rong family already!!!
Instead of using this final arc as an opportunity to rebuild the ml, , and make the fl experience her own medicine after the way she treated the ml, the writers once again create a situation where she must shines at his expense. I hate productions that feel the need to tear down one character just to forcefully and unnaturally elevate another. That’s lazy and unfair writing.
LJL deserves better. Neo deserves better. And I deserve better.
With Vos there’s nothing I’d go back to, and the music is def a turn off Such a letdown.
y'all aren't serious, then you need to look it more.
So clearly unreasonable, denying it 3 times! when I could just copy and paste it. With all that insistence i could smell something strange from miles away. She made it obvious I was right.
The moment I saw it, it was clearly the exact same as Zyz. I was so excited to ask if it was related in any way, but I didn’t know I was touching a nerve. The fact that you insist so much on saying otherwise only makes it clearer that you see it too, just don’t want to admit it and even are scared by what I’m saying. If you don't agree move on.
Every time I see him, I can’t help but feel my heart tighten and be fascinated by him, his story, and the way he was portrayed.
Different from any other character. Just special. ✨
He’s so used to pain, so used to being misunderstood, but he is always so selfless and so understanding toward everyone, demons and humans alike. His goodness breaks my heart, love him.
And his voice, what voice! Never heard a demon with such a captivating voice that even adds a more mature hint to a character that’s already perfectly portrayed by Neo. Fantastic. My only 10/10, it would be 1000/10 even just for how Neo brought Zyz to life.
Also, HMH cannot simply back out of a contract. Ent-ind contracts are binding in very real legal, financial, and reputational ways.
Backing out isn’t a moral gesture, it’s a career-altering move. There are heavy penalties, and I’m not talking only about enormous financial losses, but also professional consequences, such as damage to his reliability and reputation.
Backing out of a drama simply because he is uncomfortable with his co-star being too young for the role, or because the casting choice may create complications, is not something he can, or should do. The people who chose her are the ones in the wrong, and they should have corrected that mistake themselves.
You also have to consider that for each project, he makes many meticulous decisions before finally choosing which series to act in. If he chose this drama, it means it had value to him, whether in the character, the production team, or the story itself. He selected this project because he believed it was right for him. He invested time and thought into choosing this one among others, and it is not right to suggest that he should have back out of it, dismissing that entire process, as if his choice was careless or disposable. That is disrespectful to his professionalism.
Not to mention that this project largely rests on his shoulders. His name is what brings in the investment, provides stability and security to the production, and attracts the largest portion of the audience.
Walking away wouldn’t just be a personal decision, it would destabilize the entire production. This was his drama from the beginning, his character, his responsibility.
If there was a mistake, it occurred upstream and should have been corrected there. Expecting him to fix someone else’s error at the cost of his own credibility and commitments was never a viable option.
I understand why that would be the case. There are very few dramas where a bad ending actually works, and this one started out fluffy, cute, and adorable, a bad ending simply doesn’t suit it. And a bad ending is still a bad ending.
On top of that, this is a bad ending in a loop story! They couldn’t have done worse than this! What were the writers thinking? “Yes, let’s write a love story that goes through three lives in a time loop and end it tragically to make it an infinite bad ending?
Like, the King of bad ending! No. The worse bad ending anyone will ever see!”
Were they drunk?
Anyway, I’m at episode 10 and I’ve been spoiled about the ending, but I don’t know the details. If you want to reply to my comment, NO SPOILER ON IT, keep everything about the ending generic kk? Ty
Is it because of...
The right happy ending would have been her leaving her toxic family to be with him after he left his, or both of them going their separate ways.
She clearly values business more than him, she doesn’t deserve him.
And him abandoning everything is so out of character compared to his original strong self. They really ruined his character
And at this point, I’m only finishing the drama for LJL. I’ve been fast-forwarding almost everything else, which is why I was so frustrated to see that ep 30 gave him barely 60 sec of screen time. 🤦♀️
1. From the very first day, LJL was suspicious of the governor and conducted a thorough investigation, so he already knew everything about him. In contrast, the fl suddenly becomes a 360-degree investigator, involved in every possible field. While it is normal for her, as a merchant, to have access to information, knowing so much, so quickly, and even in areas completely outside her competence feels unrealistic.
2. LJL helped the scholar many times, with nothing to gain, when in the rong family. In this drama, nothing happens without a reason, so it would have made perfect sense for LJL, who had a good relationship with the scholar, to ask for a favor as a way to “repay a debt.”
Instead, we get the fl making a bet with him, which feels unusual.
3. LJL also helped that (blind)granny before and could have directly asked for her assistance. Yet again, the story has the fl asking the ml to ask the granny for help.
Practically the fl needs to use the ml to indirectly access resources and relationships that he already possesses and could have used himself. If LJL had led the plan directly, everything would have worked more naturally and seamlessly.
4.If LJL had used the fl in his plan, without her knowing, then by the end of the case, they would have been on equal footing. Both of them would have resolved their cases by using the other while keeping the other in the dark.
That would have created a much more balanced dynamic between them.
Instead, the writers deconstructed LJL’s clever, bold, genius character just to make the fl meddle in multiple fields outside her expertise and emerge with more information than the people who actually work in those fields. That is not only ridiculous, but also completely out of character.
5. Even the fl’s speech about eliminating corrupt officials as a “gift” felt out of place. That kind of moral stance is far more suited to LJL, who is an official and repeatedly emphasizes ethics and principles in his dialogue.
I know what’s done is done, but I don’t understand why the authors felt the need to undermine their own work. A whole drama, ruined for what? Personal preference?
What a letdown. So frustrating.
And not to mention the last arc, which is only 6 eps and is supposed to belong to the ml, yet it already starts badly.
Ep 30 spends 40 min, yet AGAIN, on the fl and after 30 eps, I genuinely can’t stand it anymore. Meanwhile, the ml gets 2 scene of 30 sec each with no sound, that end with him crying alone in a closed room. We don’t even know what was said to him to make him return, and we probably won’t even get proper clarity, maybe just a rushed explanation later, while more screen time is wasted on the rong family AGAIN.
I am so tired of this repetitive tone. Let’s move on from the rong family already!!!
Instead of using this final arc as an opportunity to rebuild the ml, , and make the fl experience her own medicine after the way she treated the ml, the writers once again create a situation where she must shines at his expense.
I hate productions that feel the need to tear down one character just to forcefully and unnaturally elevate another. That’s lazy and unfair writing.
LJL deserves better. Neo deserves better. And I deserve better.