Ikkyvicky

Most historical dramas have some level of accurate portrayal of real life events. It’s pretty much accurate and probably takes place around the same time as my dearest. The Qing dynasty did invade and the second brother was held hostage. It seems like this drama might be based on Hyojong of Josen.

Watching a historical drama that depicts gender based violence against women during that period yet being sexist and ageist in the comments is crazy. What is the problem? The acting is great. She has chemistry with the ML? The reality is that if we changed up the story and it was about an older male widow there would be zero discussion about his age. If the age is what you are stuck on and not the overall treatment of humans during that period you might want to check your empathy and drop this drama.

You would never say this about male actors that are 40 plus that are doing action movies and shows. Jackie Chan is over 40 and the man can still jump over walls and roofs if he wanted to. If you are highly trained as she was and you stay fit you can definitely do the moves she doing.

okay incel.

So the boyfriend didn’t behave inappropriately at all??? Drinking with another woman? Flirting?? Taking his ring off? Looking at her breast? Going to a hotel with her? Nothin? lol so it would it be okay if your girlfriend took a drunk man to a hotel since everyone does it? And men don’t statistically cheat more than women?? One google search would tell you that. this entire conversation is giving very much incel. I don’t want to engage with someone that refuses to except reality and pretend like men are facing some form of discrimination. good bye.

your entire post was complaining about double standards when both of them are behaving inappropriately. So what is this double standards? Both of them were with different people in the hotel when they should not have been?? so why are you only accusing her of cheating? Take your own advice sir. I am not making any assumptions I’m basing this off of your initial post. Please work on your comprehension skills. Good night.

Everyone cheats but don’t pretend like statistically men don’t cheat more often compared to women. You can argue against that if you want but it is a FACT. They even cheat most when their wives are pregnant. You said the FL was emotionally cheating that is bull. If you got to episode 2 before she met him at the bar she didn’t respond to not one of his messages. She met him for drinks after she got into a fight with the ML. She spent the entire time emotionally dejected from that man. She even called her friend and said she hates being there and spent half the time texting her boyfriend who wasn’t responding. Again, I agree that she probably should not have went to have drinks with him. But she was not emotionally cheating. As for the elevator scene she was in total shock. The guy had to guide her into the elevator initally. Again you are so outraged about the elevator scene when he carried a drunk woman on his back into the hotel. was that not disrespectful? Y’all are so fixated on the FL behavior that you fail to see the ML’s behavior as well. That is why it’s giving incel behavior.

Your agenda is pretending like her boyfriend is an innocent man. Why didn’t he break up with her before he went to a hotel with another woman? He took off his ring and was drinking with another woman. He was looking at her body and was into her sexually. He went with her willingly to a hotel and was again tempted to sleep with her. However, we know that he didn’t sleep with her either. The FL should not have engaged with that man as well but she didn’t go to the hotel willingly. She passed out at the bar and that man took her there. Again, I don’t condone her behavior as well. Both of them are not communicating and behaving appropriately with each other. Stop, pretending like the ML is some victim though.

Are you okay? It’s clear that you are watching the drama with an agenda. From the past episodes it pretty clear that neither of them actually cheated. He didn’t sleep with the girl even though he thought about it and she blacked out and her friend took her to the motel. When she woke up she had all her clothes and left. Where are you getting the she cheated stuff from?? either way both of them are no longer dating so moving forward they can be with who ever they want and sleep around if they want to.

Anytime there’s a cheating plot there’s a million incels that decend into the comment sections. All they need to see is a quick trailer and that’s enough for them to create entire narratives. At least let the show play out before ranting about the unfair portrayal of men on television. It’s crazy to me how men can’t take a little bit of disadvantages shown on movies and shows. Meanwhile, women actually have to experience this in the real world.

So are you gonna delete this when you found out next episode that it’s not her? Also even if she does sleep with someone you do realize she’s single? She can sleep with who ever she wants to and so can the ML. It’s clear that the man in next weeks episode is a big man and not the skinny, small friend. You are probably gonna have to walk back your incel comments.

Technically, the second guy isn’t really her love interest. You can see from the scene where her and her friend were tasting the cakes where they are going with the story. Tbh, I don’t even think he really likes her like that. Her boyfriend isn’t really her boyfriend so he isn’t really a love interest. That just leaves the ML. This story centers the FL and her revenge so honestly I’m glad we don’t have to deal with an ex from the past. There are plenty of dramas where the ML has the ex come back and unnecessarily complicate the story. I just finished watching tell me you love me and he had an ex that came back. In my Demon she wasn’t an ex but she wanted to be with the ML. Good day to be a dog, my dearest. I can go on and on.

lol deranged. He will be 30 this year. As much as you hate to admit it there’s no big difference between 29 & 30. I don’t know why you are so freaked out about it. Maybe you will be turning 30 soon. It’s not an old age you know lol.

Korean writers love to have these character changes in the final moments instead of allowing them to slowly go through the stages of grief in every episode. I think the drama would have been so much better to see the dad healing and slowly opening himself up to the world. instead he was a hateful, mean drunk who spent his day isolating his son and sitting in the dark. It’s clear that the wife had a dangerous job seeing that multiple people died even before her. I don’t know if it’s because I’m biased. In my culture we are raised to see death as a part of life. You can mourn forever but you must get up and get on with life. We are told all the time every soul shall taste death so don’t get too attached to this planet.

What exactly is the difference between 29 and 30? he is basically touching 30. We don’t even know what age shes portraying in this drama. she could be in her late 30s and he could be in his late 20s. Large age gaps are only extreme when it involves someone who isn’t fully mentally developed. 25+ is grown and capable of making sound decisions. Therefore, I could care less who they decide to like. It becomes problematic to me when an underdeveloped person mentally and experience wise is dating someone much older. The woman from under the queens umbrella is 13 years older than honey lee and 28 years older than the oldest son. While the ML and FL have an 11 year age gap in real life. So that’s a terrible comparison. There’s a million societal issues depicted in this drama. In the last episode an elderly man was getting beat to death. if the age gap is what’s bothering you out of all of those issues I think you have bigger problems. You want historical dramas to meet your current societal expectations. If it bothers you so much perhaps you can consider dropping it?

That’s one of the biggest issues with people who watch historical dramas with their modern lenses. This was truly an awful time for women. They live in a society where they are not even a full person. Their entire lives and worth are tied to the men in their lives. Imagine being part of a society that pushes you to commit sucicide because your husband dies. Your family gets an award for your death as a chaste woman. So much so that people started murdering their daughter in laws. So even your life span is tied to a man. If you don’t die you must dedicate your entire life to him and spend your life serving his family. People are sitting around talking about I’m bothered by the age gap. You are telling me under that circumstance you wouldn’t try to get with a younger man if it meant preserving your life??

you are certainly entitled to that opinion but it’s not like the ML is a spring chicken. The man is basically 30 years old in real life. It’s not like in Goblin when she’s attending high school and is carrying a backpack for half the episodes. I believe once a person is 25 plus I’m not worried about age gaps tbh. Same in Melancholia where they met while she’s he is a student and she’s a teacher. That’s an inappropriate relationship.

People always complaining about age gaps when the woman is older but there are a million and one dramas with age gaps where the man is older and we never hear these types of complaints. Especially, in a time period where senior citizen ass men would marry 14 year old girls. Hell, they want to sell that little girl as a concubine eventually and she looks about 8 years old. At least he is a grown man with the whole job and not some 15 year old girl. It even looks like the ML’s older brother might be paired up with her servant and she looks about 15 her damn self. Yet I see no complaints.

People always get so worked up when there’s a possible cheating plot-line. Guess what, Some tv shows are going to depict real life scenarios. Sometimes people cheat in short term and long term relationships. It doesn’t mean you can’t critique the character for making a bad decision but y’all OD every time. OMG the show is awful. What was the writer thinking. The plot is garbage. Calm down. It’s been three episodes, let the story develop. If cheating is confirmed I’m interested to know if this will break them for good or if they decide it’s something they can work through. Don’t act like trailers and editing haven’t fooled us before.

100 percent!! Someone who gets it. It’s too much of a one sided relationship. She’s doing all the emotionally heavy lifting. She literally wears her heart on her sleeves and never hesitates to show him all her cards. It only makes sense that eventually she would get tired from all that weight. The ex is chasing him and coming to his home at night, drenched, and confessing her feelings. She goes out of her way to buy him a watch under the guise of a gift from the company. At no point does he think let me make myself clear to the woman I’m dating. Instead he gets frustrated with his best friend for essentially telling to read the room and go make your girlfriend(if that’s what they are) secure in your relationship. He needs to wake up or risk losing her.