Ikkyvicky

when did she exchange sex for information? You guys are allowing your personal feels regarding cheating to create your own plot. If he was a stranger would she have slept with him? Did she say give me information for my case and I will have sex with you? based solely on the plot she slept with him based on their shared history of dating for 7+ years. He said I still miss you and it progressed from there. I don’t know how you managed to turn this into some sort of elicit sex for information scheme when that’s not the case. As for the audience it’s truly up to them to interpret things as they wish. some people like vigilantes and are okay with people operating in grey areas. some people like you are stuck on the cheating and others are more interested in the overall plot. It’s really up to the individual viewer. I see that you guys keep referring to accountability but it’s only been two episodes? Again the show never demanded anything it’s only telling a story. You don’t know if the plot will be that in order to take on the powerful you have to be willing to cut corners like they do. I think you should allow the story to play out instead of making assumptions when we barely have any information.

Please don’t even compare victims of rape to people they have dealt with cheating. It’s neither comparable nor can you reference it in the same sentence. No matter how hurtful cheating it is no where in the realm or even in the same world as cheating. The thing is you keep making these statements that her behavior in the story is being justified, minimized and sympathized with. The writers never justified anything they are simply telling story. They never said her actions were neither good nor bad. You can’t really speak for the audience because you don’t know how everyone is feeling besides the people who might be commenting in this post. Saying that cheating happens in the world is just a statement of fact. Again I can’t read the mind of the FL and I don’t know what her intentions were as the story left it open to one’s interpretation as we didn’t even see anything outside of the kiss. Going to his house might be considered inappropriate due to their history but again up to individual interpretation if you want to consider that cheating or not. Again I don’t understand your position should tv shows not have complicated characters? Some people leave their homes with the intention of cheating on their partners and some leave without that intention but take inappropriate steps that eventually lead them into cheating. Thats is simply a fact of life. You don’t have to love the characters nor agree with them. As someone who watched shows like shameless and house I’m comfortable with flawed characters.

How is this a deflection? I never said it was a mistake as I don’t believe cheating can even be a mistake. I only detailed how cheating usually happens and how in her specific case it started with the texting and eventually lead to her going to his house. If your argument is that she specially went over to his house to have sex with him that’s truly up to your interpretation. I don’t know how you know she had unprotected sex yet as the show hasn’t covered that. From the way she looked at the calendar I think she had just remembered at that moment that it was that specific date. My personal interpretation is not that she went there to maliciously cheat on her husband but I believe she allowed her past relationship with him to cloud her judgment thus cheating on her husband. Cheating is consensual and it can be in different forms be it emotional or sexual. Please do not in any way compare this to rape or any other crimes of that nature. It’s not something that’s even in the same realm. A person that cheats a million times will always be better than a rapist. Rape is one of the worst crimes on this earth. So let’s take that completely out of this conversation. The reason why I said cheating is a human thing was in reference to people that always complain anytime cheating is depicted in TV it’s cause it’s a common thing that many people experience in different forms

I said I am able to separate her cheating from the main central part of the story which is finding out who is behind this app and who in their world is using said app to abuse people. This doesn’t mean that I agree with the FL for tampering with evidence or cheating on her husband. I personally believe they can salvage the phone aspect by accessing the phone to figure out the details or the reporters investigation. I see that the other two lawyers are doing the best they can with the circumstances they find themselves in due to the actions of the third lawyer. If you personally find her actions to be completely irredeemable that’s up to you. It’s only been two episodes and I’m someone that believes in character growth. You refuse to accept the complexities in humans and only want to see depictions of perfect morally upright people. Guess what it’s very easy for a decent person to go down a bad path. You only see in black and white. People can only be good and bad and you refuse to make room for the grey areas. It started with a text and it moved to a conversation. It went from a meeting to a cafe to a house to a kiss to sex to now you have to commit 30 more sins just to cover up all your other sins. I don’t understand how the actions of one woman undermines all the women depicted in this show. Women are human as well and they often make mistakes and commit sins. This show is an adaption if you are looking for perfect morally up right women you might want to watch something else.

You stated that their personal relationship with the victim overrides professional duty. Is this in reference to the minor or the reporter? I don’t understand how this would apply to the minor. When did they emotionally pressure their client? The client has lied twice now to her lawyers and because they have more intel they can be a bit more assertive with said client. They initially lost the case because the client didn’t disclose that she was an escort/prostitute and she met the actor on an app for sickos. Not to mention the other friend was completely willing to go with the idea that the reporter raped her and said that anyone was capable of said crime so this idea that they were willing to pressure the victim to punish her for ruining her friends love life is a complete lie that you just made up. They know that she didn’t kill the reporter and that he was killed for covering that app. Thats why they yelled at the police for interviewing her. Even if she didn’t sleep with him the outcome would have essentially been the same. He would have been killed and the victim would have taken responsibility. Again it’s factual that the actions of one lawyer put the other two lawyers in a very difficult spot. They are doing the best they can to salvage this situation. Btw I don’t even understand what exactly is it that you want to see? Have you never watched tv shows with flawed characters? Ever seen house? The mentalist? Pro bono? Is there someone arguing that these are perfect morally upright characters. I don’t understand what this conversation is even about anymore.

Yes her friends were disappointed in what she did but do you expect them to call up her husband and let him know? The focus of this drama is not the cheating or her tampering with evidence. Unfortunately her bad behavior put them in a tough position. They can report what happened thus undermining all of their hard work or they can operate in the grey area in order to take on a network of killers, abusers and pedos. It really is up to the interpretation of the viewers. My morality is willing to operate a bit grey and on the edges if it means taking on the Epstein’s of the world who are the 1 percent that are powerfully and wealthy. Her husband is already suspicious and will eventually find out about what transpired. It’s only been two episodes let’s at least wait until the story unfolds before making any definite statements. As for the show normalizing cheating I don’t understand what that even means. Cheating happened before tv was invented and it will continue to happen until the end of time. In real life sometimes there’s consequences for cheating and something cheaters get away with it. It’s just a fact of life.

I’m so confused are you a child? Have you never watched tv shows where the main characters are deeply flawed people? They lie and they cheat and they commit all types of sins because that’s what humans do in this world. Do you want to watch tv shows with perfect people? The writers didn’t tell you to relate to her. Sometimes in shows & movies you understand characters and relate to them and sometimes their behavior is upsetting and confusing. This is the nature of story telling. Why you wish to turn this into some sort of gender war is perplexing at best. You can already see with the trajectory of the story that she will have to grapple with the consequences of her actions. For me I understand the complexity of humans so I’m able to separate her personal life from her work life. If perfect morally upright characters are your thing maybe you should consider watching faith based programs.

it’s about time you finally spoke the truth. Hopefully one day you will be willing to accept your secret love of Korean romance dramas. You be clocking in day one like it’s a job. We love a true fan girl.

I thought the first two episodes were interesting. I did struggle to connect with the FL. I would have loved to get more insight on why she wanted to take on this case. Is it for justice or is it to build her career? I don’t mind a ruthless defense attorney as long as I can understand their methods. I don’t understand why she went in so aggressive when she has a culprit that wants to talk. You don’t have to buy into what they’re saying but surely getting an insight to their motives would help you build your case? She was willing to waste police resources looking for the bodies when the ML was willing to provide that information with one proper sit down. The FBI was able to build their behavior science unit just by sitting down and listening to some of the most disgusting people on earth. I don’t understand why the ML didn’t let his lawyer know that he told the prosecutor that the last victim shouldn’t seek medical attention from other doctors. I hate when people don’t speak to their lawyers and involve themselves in the case.

No you actually secretly enjoy Korean romance dramas but have to put on this masculine front to help you sleep better at night. Who takes time out of their life to watch romantic tv shows just so they can complain to the world about them especially when there so many other genres that would suit their fragile masculinity. It’s okay babe I see you. There’s a few more romance dramas dropping soon so I know you are excited.

not in the way it does with Asian dramas. You have entire plot lines were a person is called a murder and when the story is cleared up it’s because the person asked to meet up and their friend/family member dies before they reach them. I watched a kdrama where a mother was abusing her daughter in law cause she called her husband while she was in labor and he died on the way. It’s just more on the extreme side in Korea. I’ve not ever seen stories depicted to this extreme in other countries.

Nobody says you need to root for her. The story clearly shows she’s a complicated character. You are suppose to root for them only in the context of how they help victims. You don’t have to support their personal stories. What she did was wrong with the cheating as well as the tampering of evidence which she had to do in order to cover up said cheating. Even getting involved with someone so close to her case was unethical. However, if humans weren’t so flawed we would never have anything to watch.

I think you are confusing two separate things. The initial post was referring to the depiction of cheating in the first episode. as I stated in my post cheating is unfortunately a part of this life. Just because everyone isn’t cheating doesn’t mean it didn’t happen on the regular. Hence a harsh part of life. You hope that the person you love will ways remain loyal to you but unfortunately it’s not always the case. It is a gamble you take when you put your heart on the line. The FL in this show allowed her former feelings to negatively impact her decision making. Her friends were disappointed in her and she’s facing consequences as her bad decision has now forced her to tamper with evidence. How was it normalized at no point in the plot did it condone her activity? Not to mention her friends were disappointed in her & she will eventually have to face the consequences of her actions as the plot develops. The cheating is not even the main plot it’s only a subplot to move the story and connect the characters hence why there isn’t much focus on her. you are turning this into a gender war and expecting too much when there’s only been two episodes. At least wait until the story finishes before you start the gender clashes.

You have to realize that characters serve the plot. The SML is there to bring up the fire so we can get the full story. You know damn well that along the way the SML will have that conversation with the ML and they will resolve their conflict. It’s just Korean drama formula and characters can’t ignore each other in real life because they serve as plot devices. Hearing sides will clear up and discrepancies and misunderstandings between the characters so it has nothing to do with respect. Also the SML just shows up in front of her house and starts talking. Not much she can say or do when she has no idea about anything that occurred in the past.

cheating is a unfortunately a harsh part of life and it’s not even central to the main plot. Just a side plot they are using to sort of complicate the death of the reporter. Her husband will eventually find out.

what’s the name of the Swedish drama this is based on?

did you watch the ending? She said she didn’t even bother asking anything or question what he said because she has ultimate trust in the ML. She didn’t even ask him to clarify what happened and allowed him to steer the conversation. She clearly loves and supports him. pls we know based on her entire story that she’s not a super confrontational person.

Listen I didn’t like the SML in the beginning but now I really don’t like him. Imagine you have a best friend that is getting brutally abused by their father to the point that they tell you that one day they fear that their father will kill them. That same best friend is now tasked with also keeping his nephew safe. There is some sort of fire that happens and you really don’t know the details. pls he disappeared with the money you planned on giving him. Instead of being concerned about your friend and his nephew and wondering what happened and wishing that they remain safe you decide to villainize said friend and speak badly about him. On top of that you are a whole lawyer and you accuse your friend of murder with zero evidence. You didn’t even give him the benefit of the doubt to ask him what happened. When the ML said he killed his dad it’s gonna be the typical story where he really didn’t kill him but he thinks it’s his fault it happened. Koreans love to take ownership of deaths that are not their faults all the time.

Lol the comment being how do people watch this types of shows with a straight face yet here you are under every romance story complaining about the same thing and always obsessing over the sexual status of the characters. why don’t you just stop watching Korean romance dramas since it doesn’t appeal to your incel mindset????

in the earlier episodes he stated that he would not reveal her location and respected her right to get away. Now he reveals her personal life with cloudy information about the ML and provides her location. The least he could have done was give the FL a heads up. very useless character all around.