AutumnLeaf

It's called TASTE. And your ENVY is dripping. For some people, including me, Dylan is the handsomest cdrama actor and has great acting talent, a master in the art of nuanced acting and has natural comedic chops too. Tell me who your favorite actor is and I guarantee I can point out at least 3 flaws he has. He must be so lacking in looks and talent that you have to criticize another actor to make yourself feel better about your favorite.

Here's probably another reason Bai Lu and Dylan Wang are much envied, causing this drama to be heavily attacked by those poisoned with envy:

Sohu releases Media's favorite artists in 2023,
2️⃣ #DylanWang
3️⃣ #BaiLu

See https://twitter.com/Cpop_Melon/status/1750728414053761389

Both artists are generally praised for being nice and courteous with no attitude. Apparently, some artists smoke during interviews or have many requirements about how they look in photographs.

Old news. Check out previous discussion in https://kisskh.at/discussions/cuo-liao/123145-the-hate-that-only-for-love-received-needs-a-lens-adjustment-dedicated-to-ofl-shippers

This drama has been attacked like crazy by:
* web accounts paid to blacken actors and dramas by antis or other actors. See the discussion in https://kisskh.at/discussions/cuo-liao/121285-who-still-believes-in-douban
* viewers who can't get the campy humor probably due to https://stevetobak.com/2018/12/25/millennials-have-no-sense-of-humor/
* antis of actors or of their pairing

as Margaret Thatcher said, when your opponents make personal attacks, that means they have run out of things to say about the topic

Courtesy is indeed disappearing from mainstream consciousness. It's now about being bombastic, whatever grabs the attention. This has plagued not only dramas, politics too. Actually, any topic on social media.

I've also been wondering why people can't just cheer for their favorite actors and couples. Why smear perceived rivals of favorites? If you notice, after smearing this drama, some commenters plug in other dramas starring Bai Lu or Dylan with other co-stars. These viewers have been predisposed to not like this drama because they want the stars to be with other co-stars. Of course one can't stop people from having other favorites. People have different tastes. But why lie and smear instead of just dropping out quietly? Social media has empowered man's inclination for nastiness, that's why.

Thank you so much for the honor. In this world where logic, truth and justice are giving way to fake news, it's great to find kindred spirits.

I just engaged in a discussion over a review that told outright lies about this drama, alleging "zero communication, dumbest FL, overconfident but foolish BFF, the most cliche-lazily written plot and lots of investment business talks we don't care about — is what we get here for more than 20 episodes".

It's really sad how social media has empowered such distortions of truth and logic. People just want to believe what they want to believe, supporting lies that support hidden agenda such as smearing perceived rivals of favorite actors and couples.

Man always manages to use tools for nefarious purposes. Instead of using a drama's discussion section to help understand a drama better, dissecting characters and dialogues to find out what messages the writer, director and actors want to impart in each scene, like how a writer's intention is analyzed in book reviews, here we are just dealing with lies after lies after lies.

I don't believe anything she says anymore. She's one of the reasons I've abandoned Youtube which has become a vessel of fake news. Before abandoning YT altogether, I had her channel set to "Don't recommend channel" in my account. She's like all those YXH (netizens paid to defame celebs and dramas) who would say anything to have something to post. She didn't even finish OFL. She lost the right to review it. Logically speaking, one shouldn't review a drama she hasn't fully watched (by skippimg scenes or dropping it) and at least tried to understand. Otherwise, it's like a judge who makes a decision without considering all known information about a case.

And what nonsense making another video about the best and worst dramas of 2023. How many 2023 dramas did she watch? Has she even watched 50% of them?

considering that there are many cdramas that are not as good but have higher ratings, 7.9 is too low for this.

When has pointing out FACTS and SENSE become over-analyzing? Only for those who are too eager to find fault, watching a drama not to understand it but to criticize it. You seem to have forgotten your advice to "just watch this drama and skip until both your fingers and brain is tired af." As noted previously, it's irresponsible to advice viewers to skip scenes. Reviewers have a responsibility to write reliable reviews, not distortions of facts and logic.

Regarding their witty exchanges, your examples of wit ("when did NOT explaining a misunderstanding to your partner" and "NOT apologizing") are so off the mark. How could they have exchanges, much less show their wit, in those scenarios you cited when they were not communicating? Oh, perhaps you have skipped those parts when they were actually communicating, like their texts, the "making cake" scene, when Shi Yan posted a part of Xiaguang Temple with the caption, "Pathways never swept for a visitor's sake. My hunble gate only opens for you", when Shi Yan arranged all fortune sticks in a canister so all the fortune say, "The right one is already deeply in love", and many other delightful exchanges. Too bad you probably skipped or simply refused to understand those and missed such precious and titillating scenes.

When has there ever been a rule that a breathing space should only be up to a certain length of time? A breathing space in a relationship is when the parties do not communicate with each other and it can be for as long as they need to come to a decision. And it can lead to a final break-up. if you were watching, you would have noticed that throughout the breathing space, both of them were mulling over their relationship. With Shi Yan talking to Guan Ji and Shi Yue for advice. And Shu Yi even going to his house to attempt a reconciliation but got stymied when she saw Shi Yan with Fiona.

In any case, the fact that you said they had zero communication for 20 episodes is a lie, so is the allegation that Shu Yi is the dumbest FL for 20 episodes. The allegation that the business talks that nobody cared about went on for 20 episodes has two lies:
1. Some viewers did care about the business talks. If you read the comments in the Comment section, you'll find many viewers who liked those business talks. They revealed much about Shi Yan's intelligence, competence and business savvy, as well as Shu Yi's brilliance as well as their compatibility in terms of intelligence, interests and values
2. The business talks did not go on for 20 episodes

Regarding those who liked your review, there are netizens called YXH who are paid to defame celebrities and dramas. And their business is proliferating, obviously because it is effective in swaying innocent viewers who don't know that there are netizens who would brazenly lie on the internet. That is, it is a known fact that many netizens trust whatever they read online. I noticed that a lot of viewers mentioned skipping scenes. This would have the effect of those viewers missing out on some details about the drama. And they probably rely on "better-informed" reviewers to give them those details. Thus, it is the responsibility of reviewers to give reliable reviews. Encouraging viewers to skip scenes is not responsible. This drama, especially, has a campy humor that can only be appreciated when the nuances are felt. And that cannot be felt when scenes are skipped. This drama is also character-driven, thus understanding the characters is fundamental to appreciating the drama. Again, skipping scenes would deny viewers the necessary information to understand the characters. Thus, it is obvious that skipping scenes or not completing a drama would only allow for a terribly misleading review.

Good for you. It's really best to focus on real life than virtual. I'm staying on at Twitter because of the 2024 election. There needs to be some sane voice to counter the crazy noise. After November, I'll withdraw from it. As for mydramalist, like another commenter here, I'm finding it hard to withdraw while I see injustice being done on some dramas like OFL.

Is the misunderstanding what you meant with zero communication for 20 episodes? The zero communication happened for at most 2 episodes. And if you really wanted to understand the story, you would have welcomed the misunderstanding as it was the best way to knock some sense into the spoiled Shu Yi. Yes, she's not perfect, and the growth of the characters makes the story unique and intriguing. In real life, lovers sometimes need breathing space. Why can't they in a drama? But I repeat, the zero communication did not happen for 20 episodes. And the FL is not dumb, least of all, the dumbest as you allege. She is an intelligent reporter but, like many people, has some quirks. Reviews should help other viewers understand the drama better, not mislead them with lies.

Did we watch the same drama? Did you actually watch the drama and try to understand it? Or were you just itching to criticize it? The main leads communicated a lot. They are intelligent people who communicated not through sweet-nothings but through infinitely more advanced mental games - witticisms. Their texts show how witty they are. Witticisms expose not only a person's sense of humor but whether two people understand each other on a cerebral basis. Did you skip the 2-hour interview in the car? An interview that picks someone's brain is a much more effective way of communication between intelligent people than sweet-nothings. Through the questions, the interviewee finds out how the interviewer thinks, what the interviewer values. Through the answers, the interviewer learns much more about the interviewee than sweet-nothings would provide. This is why some interviewers and interviewees end up in romantic relationships, like Jack and Jackie Kennedy. The following discussion topic would help you understand these two characters better: https://kisskh.at/discussions/cuo-liao/121097-choosing-a-partner-like-a-venture-capitalist-with-shi-yan-long-analysis

I noticed that those whose comments make sense and understood this drama ended up liking it. I also enjoyed reading your comments. It's such a grave miscarriage of justice that this drama has been thrashed by those who didn't bother understanding it.

You took the words out of my mouth :) I agree with everything you said, especially the phrase "eager to find fault". I think this is the real reason this drama has been lambasted. Anybody who is eager to find fault will find something to complain about any drama, even the most respected ones. Nirvana in Fire, one of the most respected cdramas had been criticized for, among others, being "mind numbingly slow" and having bad lighting (uh uh, this sounds familiar)

I'm planning to withdraw from social media altogether myself. I haven't logged on to Facebook for several months now. Next target, Twitter or X :) I have never been a fan of YT. Too many fake news there. Well, everywhere, actually, but I'm appalled at so many videos that are outright lies I just go there to listen to songs

He started dating before he was 23. His life before 23 was not shown, so it’s not known whether he had a girlfriend in kindy, or elementary or high school or college. But it’s understandable that he didn’t have one from age 23 to 27 as he was busy with his company. I also like to think that after meeting Shu Yi when he was 23, he subconsciously lost interest in other girls. 😊

The internet reminds me of a sermon I heard about how man is predisposed towards evil. Nobody teaches a baby to grab other babies’ toys, or little boys and girls to lie and fight. They learn it themselves. Give people a chance to say whatever they want to say under the cloak of anonimity and they will cyber-bully and slander away

Thank you! I've been admiring your comments on the drama so your approval is much appreciated. Your review in the Reviews section, especially, would be of much help to those who don't get the campy humor. If only more people can read it. We share the same frustration with the negativity this drama has received. Even here at MDL, just the rating alone would already cast a negative light on the drama, coloring people's reception of it, making them likely to criticize it, jump on the bandwagon. That's one thing I deplore about the internet, how it emboldens netizens to be mean. Gone are the days when the saying, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything" was heeded.