I don't feel good about homophobia popping up as a major plot point when before that everyone was doing whatever they wanted unchecked and now it's such a big issue that we have to dedicate the important last two episodes to it?
The one and only time it was mentioned before was Joe.2 mother saying she didn't approve until he jumped into the ocean. And speaking of which, will there ever be justice for Joe 2?
The poor guy is gone from the world and no one knows as if he never existed. His mother is happy playing mother with another guy and real Joe 2 is forgotten. Can you imagine dying and literally no one giving a fuck because your body's still alive and no one knows not even your mother that the soul is gone? Atleast Joe should make a little grave or something for Joe.2, he deserves sending offs and a funeral too.
It's annoying me how much of a shipper the mother is being for Ming and Joe, when her disapproval before literally killed her child and that poor boy is gone and others are reaping benefits, which is good for them but what about the original guy please? He existed hello?
More on motherly figure. This is the difference between having a family and not having it; Joe lived with Ming for an entire year without having a clue about his family which is now coming to bite them both, whereas the mummy brought it up the first chance she got. Had Joe had someone looking out for him back then too, maybe things would never have gotten this bad.
And finally when will Joe's bad luck run out? The entire second half of this episode left me very disgruntled. So many things annoying me about this episode for so many reasons. I'm discontented. But let's see if it will improve on another viewing.
According to the novel, Ming reminded Joe about their deal. That was why they appear cozy in the teaser.
It's not the teaser. If you wanna check the link is in the uncut version comments but I recommend waiting a couple more hours to see complete product instead.
So I saw a little clip from next episode and for the first time I'm grateful for the 1 week gap between episodes because it made me calm down and accept their inevitable reconciliation. Had I seen this shit right after ep 9 I would've gagged. Now unbelievably I'm finding it a bit cute.
(1)The choice of weapon. OK, let's dive into it. Although it's rather difficult to determine what type of bat…
I wonder if Ming knew what he was doing to some extent, because while he was irrational out of anger he did deliver the blow quite precisely and seems to know exactly that it will do its job. Like if it was a clueless me I'd be delivering the blow on the back of the middle of head or right on top (in self defense from a potential murderer you know lol) and I would really be scared of him dying from it but not only was Ming quite content, he also bonked him on neck to the lower head from what I could see. Ofcourse his contentment could easily be because he is crazy but I would like to think otherwise just for Joe's sake.
I like the idea that he must've played some sports in college because he had been manhandling Joe quite regularly and while Joe has been mostly letting him do it Ming himself seems to require not much effort on it either, so physically he can't be a total weakling.
And when you say potentially dangerous how dangerous are we talking here? A permanent damage or death? Also when you say painful enough to knock out, is it the pain alone that does it or damage to some nerve? Because that would be so very cruel of Ming.
When you mentioned timings between phone call and bonking it made me really angry thinking the Ming was callously looking around for something to hit Joe with while he was busy telling Sol not to worry about him 🥺
Its a good place to continue, I don't see it as controversial, everyone should know how much damage the lover boy did to Joe in the name of love lol. Though this had me a tiny bit anxious about my hyperactive toddler who is often wonking his head on various things despite all my precautions 🤦
Anyway on Up and Poom's signing, Up's voice is quite melodious while Poom's sound exactly like it does when he speaks, it's kind of funny really like he sang well but it's clear he is no singer 😆
I'm going to cry. Someone translated the ost songs and they are speaking from the characters pov and are heartwrenching.…
And I have to add Ming should bow down to whatever god he worships to give him a gift like Joe. Who else could be so loyal and sincere my god Joe you lovely little sweetie.
I'm going to cry. Someone translated the ost songs and they are speaking from the characters pov and are heartwrenching.…
And there's another song of Joe too stating that Ming did him wrong but he can't help himself but you know what?spare me we get it you don't have it in you to not love Ming stop ✋ https://youtu.be/RAXvuvwbvOU?si=PZAMarC_XNHGpExH
The Sol and Ming's songs are on point too but I feel like not transcribing them just yet. Sol's one is called "It's too Late". It basically say he foolishly lost his chance to be with Joe and now it hurts bad to see him with someone else but it's too late to do anything now (aka regret and admitting defeat) https://youtu.be/QLWc2W19gQE?si=WMIq7qTK16KXRE_u
Ming's one is called "Flaw" (aptly named ha! he really is a whole flaw or rather a fatal flaw!) It is him wishing Joe would come back to him. Admitting he is a bastard who did Joe wrong and he was at fault that day. He badly misses him everyday and (very surprisingly) if Joe's to never come back he wishes he'll find someone who won't make his heart suffer like Ming did (what is this character development i thought he'll take Joe to the grave with him..which actually happened too but anyways) https://youtu.be/5_6Lxb8Hifk?si=n7n1bEa8HlirOLr3
So the song team outdid themselves with these songs. Amazing.
I'm going to cry. Someone translated the ost songs and they are speaking from the characters pov and are heartwrenching.…
Joe 3: The Chosen One (Here's when Joe finally gives in and is the song that plays in their sexy times next ep 10)
I know nothing is certain I know we shouldn't dream too far You know how much I stop myself There's no way my heart will accept it I've chosen to love you, I've chosen not to be afraid and regret I've chosen to love you, Whether it's good or bad it doesn't matter I've chosen to love you, No matter tomorrow or when I've already chosen to love you (yeah yeah we get it already) I just want you to try looking into my eyes Come and let you have me by your side Who doesn't know the end? But at least we will love each other once
I'm going to cry. Someone translated the ost songs and they are speaking from the characters pov and are heartwrenching.…
Joe 2: Die for You
Just trying to change myself into a new person and taking a long journey I want to be free from cruel people But it is me who deny myself to start over It's too late to get out of here Running off to death probably won't help If my heart chooses to stop at you I had to surrender to the confusion I encountered Then it came back to the same place Even if I have to die, disappear and be reborn Love is still buried deep inside Just the body is broken into pieces even after life ends Can't stop my heart from calling out to you (And here's where I want to slap Joe) Because the body, life and soul is all yours alone for eternity (shut up pls 👋 ) I use to think one day love comes to an end and get erased with time But when it was you who came in I learned that time and date is meaningless Who is going to help me? I am drowning in this relationship. It seems that the more I struggle, the more I get pulled back Running off to death probably won't help If my heart chooses to stop at you I had to surrender to the confusion I encountered Then it came back to the same place
I'm going to cry. Someone translated the ost songs and they are speaking from the characters pov and are heartwrenching.…
Joe 1: Who are you Missing?
Thinking to myself everyday that I'm somewhat an important person But now I'm starting to doubt Is someone else hiding in you? Afraid my heart won't be able to handle it If at the end I become meaningless Who are you dreaming of when you are with me? Who are you thinking of when you are close to me? Just a fleeting shadow, no way to win the heart Why do you keep me with you? Do you have me instead of someone else, can you answer clearly? Reflecting in your eyes, the person you seek is it me or someone else? I must ask myself, who is the important one? Will it be me standing by you? Or someone unknown hidden in your heart? I never knew anything about the word 'love' you say everyday Is it meant for me sometimes? 😭😭😭 Fuck you Ming you don't hurt someone like this, especially not someone as sweet as Joe.
I'm going to cry. Someone translated the ost songs and they are speaking from the characters pov and are heartwrenching. 4 by Joe which tells his side from A to Z, 1 by Ming and 1 by Sol. There's hardly any doubt to remain as to who thinks what after these.
I cannot believe the meticulous effort that's gone into making the series, if it was a bit more artistic/sappy idk how to describe, it would've been even better but what we got is pretty awesome too. It's just that the flat consistent angst alone is a bit too much maybe lol
Let me just paste and link them in the next comment.
Well the body is nothing (dead, of no use) without a soul, same way Joe's body is now ash. They are both given…
My take is that new Joe wanted to go (committed suicide) so he's gone as per his wish, as morbid as it may sound. Old Joe never intended to die so he's back, just in the wrong body.
That's all true but it doesn't mean he isn't hurt by his insults and aggression, and would'nt prefer if he's treated…
As I saw it he pretty much fell for Ming at first sight before any of his less savoury characteristics had reared their head.
But yes at the end of the day Joe isn't a child and whatever optimism he may have had about Ming before has all been washed up to make it crystal clear by now as to what kind of person Ming is. So this time atleast he'll be going into this relationship with wide open blinded eyes (oxymoron I know) aka knowingly throwing himself into a pit of fire because his heart trumps his brain is what I see there objectively.
Speaking of which the title of the next episode is so beautifully unhealthy and romantic just like the series if I understood it right, can't wait for it.
The one and only time it was mentioned before was Joe.2 mother saying she didn't approve until he jumped into the ocean. And speaking of which, will there ever be justice for Joe 2?
The poor guy is gone from the world and no one knows as if he never existed. His mother is happy playing mother with another guy and real Joe 2 is forgotten. Can you imagine dying and literally no one giving a fuck because your body's still alive and no one knows not even your mother that the soul is gone? Atleast Joe should make a little grave or something for Joe.2, he deserves sending offs and a funeral too.
It's annoying me how much of a shipper the mother is being for Ming and Joe, when her disapproval before literally killed her child and that poor boy is gone and others are reaping benefits, which is good for them but what about the original guy please? He existed hello?
More on motherly figure. This is the difference between having a family and not having it; Joe lived with Ming for an entire year without having a clue about his family which is now coming to bite them both, whereas the mummy brought it up the first chance she got. Had Joe had someone looking out for him back then too, maybe things would never have gotten this bad.
And finally when will Joe's bad luck run out? The entire second half of this episode left me very disgruntled. So many things annoying me about this episode for so many reasons. I'm discontented. But let's see if it will improve on another viewing.
I like the idea that he must've played some sports in college because he had been manhandling Joe quite regularly and while Joe has been mostly letting him do it Ming himself seems to require not much effort on it either, so physically he can't be a total weakling.
And when you say potentially dangerous how dangerous are we talking here? A permanent damage or death? Also when you say painful enough to knock out, is it the pain alone that does it or damage to some nerve? Because that would be so very cruel of Ming.
When you mentioned timings between phone call and bonking it made me really angry thinking the Ming was callously looking around for something to hit Joe with while he was busy telling Sol not to worry about him 🥺
Its a good place to continue, I don't see it as controversial, everyone should know how much damage the lover boy did to Joe in the name of love lol. Though this had me a tiny bit anxious about my hyperactive toddler who is often wonking his head on various things despite all my precautions 🤦
https://youtube.com/shorts/pmTzqSIVctc?si=pAu5CUeTOAtoMk9t
https://youtu.be/RAXvuvwbvOU?si=PZAMarC_XNHGpExH
The Sol and Ming's songs are on point too but I feel like not transcribing them just yet.
Sol's one is called "It's too Late". It basically say he foolishly lost his chance to be with Joe and now it hurts bad to see him with someone else but it's too late to do anything now (aka regret and admitting defeat)
https://youtu.be/QLWc2W19gQE?si=WMIq7qTK16KXRE_u
Ming's one is called "Flaw" (aptly named ha! he really is a whole flaw or rather a fatal flaw!) It is him wishing Joe would come back to him. Admitting he is a bastard who did Joe wrong and he was at fault that day. He badly misses him everyday and (very surprisingly) if Joe's to never come back he wishes he'll find someone who won't make his heart suffer like Ming did (what is this character development i thought he'll take Joe to the grave with him..which actually happened too but anyways)
https://youtu.be/5_6Lxb8Hifk?si=n7n1bEa8HlirOLr3
So the song team outdid themselves with these songs. Amazing.
I know nothing is certain
I know we shouldn't dream too far
You know how much I stop myself
There's no way my heart will accept it
I've chosen to love you, I've chosen not to be afraid and regret
I've chosen to love you, Whether it's good or bad it doesn't matter
I've chosen to love you, No matter tomorrow or when
I've already chosen to love you (yeah yeah we get it already)
I just want you to try looking into my eyes
Come and let you have me by your side
Who doesn't know the end?
But at least we will love each other once
https://youtu.be/wh2ReA7KrWM?si=ngEwGJDKU-3Sym7y
My mans can't be helped, he has fallen way too far. If I was his mother I would cry for him.
Just trying to change myself into a new person and taking a long journey
I want to be free from cruel people
But it is me who deny myself to start over
It's too late to get out of here
Running off to death probably won't help
If my heart chooses to stop at you
I had to surrender to the confusion I encountered
Then it came back to the same place
Even if I have to die, disappear and be reborn
Love is still buried deep inside
Just the body is broken into pieces even after life ends
Can't stop my heart from calling out to you
(And here's where I want to slap Joe)
Because the body, life and soul is all yours alone for eternity (shut up pls 👋 )
I use to think one day love comes to an end and get erased with time
But when it was you who came in I learned that time and date is meaningless
Who is going to help me? I am drowning in this relationship.
It seems that the more I struggle, the more I get pulled back
Running off to death probably won't help
If my heart chooses to stop at you
I had to surrender to the confusion I encountered
Then it came back to the same place
https://youtu.be/LSAk0wW9rmQ?si=Q35Xmwjndr_o31xE
Thinking to myself everyday that I'm somewhat an important person
But now I'm starting to doubt
Is someone else hiding in you?
Afraid my heart won't be able to handle it
If at the end I become meaningless
Who are you dreaming of when you are with me?
Who are you thinking of when you are close to me?
Just a fleeting shadow, no way to win the heart
Why do you keep me with you?
Do you have me instead of someone else, can you answer clearly?
Reflecting in your eyes, the person you seek is it me or someone else?
I must ask myself, who is the important one?
Will it be me standing by you?
Or someone unknown hidden in your heart?
I never knew anything about the word 'love' you say everyday
Is it meant for me sometimes?
😭😭😭
Fuck you Ming you don't hurt someone like this, especially not someone as sweet as Joe.
https://youtu.be/YehU_5MJvPc?si=LcCd7HJFofKrce-l
https://youtu.be/DN-bEZFhGCY?si=nwi1tAzunchuPutK
I cannot believe the meticulous effort that's gone into making the series, if it was a bit more artistic/sappy idk how to describe, it would've been even better but what we got is pretty awesome too. It's just that the flat consistent angst alone is a bit too much maybe lol
Let me just paste and link them in the next comment.
But yes at the end of the day Joe isn't a child and whatever optimism he may have had about Ming before has all been washed up to make it crystal clear by now as to what kind of person Ming is. So this time atleast he'll be going into this relationship with wide open blinded eyes (oxymoron I know) aka knowingly throwing himself into a pit of fire because his heart trumps his brain is what I see there objectively.
Speaking of which the title of the next episode is so beautifully unhealthy and romantic just like the series if I understood it right, can't wait for it.