Can I know the source of your claims because none of the articles or even snippets of the police reports I searched…
About fraud case, it's my first time hearing that, by googling I found out only pieces of information, that both sides sued each other. I didn't find decision of the court and who won the case, if you have this information, please share. I'm not saying he's a fraud or not, but there's not much information about this case except both sides suing each other. You're asking about the credible source of assault case. At the end of the comment I send to you a link to a thread with all Lee Jung Jae's allegations. I didn't find police report, I read journalists articles made at the time it happened. Journalists called woman "a fan" and said she followed Lee Jung Jae to his car and tried to get there. Based on that information I assumed it's a sasaeng, because normal fan wouldn't do that. I'm sending to you the thread with all allegations about Lee Jung Jae (expect fraud's case). There's also mentioned that second assault case and how it was debunked. And there's also a post with sources and links, so you can check it yourself. You can read that thread and decide if sources mentioned there is credible enough for you. If you wouldn't find sources to korean articles I mentioned, ask me, I will sent them. https://x.com/pinkcake2013
Can I know the source of your claims because none of the articles or even snippets of the police reports I searched…
That "another assault case of Lee Jung Jae with a man" never happened and debunked many-many years ago. "just because she was a stalker, that does not mean he can get violent with her by dragging and kicking her." - just because?? You talking about stalkers as they're harmless creatures. And you forgot to mention he did that AFTER she got into his car. And he hit her while tried to drag from his car. What did she did there by your opinion? You can have your opinion about if someone can hit a stalker when they trying to break into their car or not, but it's definitely not at the same level as rape, pedophilia, or school bullying. Among all these people Lee Jung Jae's assault case looks like a white caw. "Third, if she was a stalker, why did he not sue her for harassment and stalking?" - don't ask me about it, I'm not his friend. I can't know why he didn't sue her. All I know is, it happened more than 20 years ago, and korean "fans" at these times were even crazier than now. 15 years ago idol Kim Jae Joong had traumatic experience with stalkers. He changed his apartments multiple times because his stalkers found out his address and tried to sneak into his house. Sometimes they even did it. On some show Kim Jae Joong said how he called police, and police said to him "They're your fans. They're just showing their love to you". And I know untill now some crazy stalkers still following Kim Jae Joong. He had terrible experience with all of this, you can google it. Based on this I'm guessing sasaengs weren't taken seriously 25 years ago. But this is just my assumption, I can't know the real reason for sure, I'm not Lee Jung Jae's or that sasaeng's friend. Kim Jae Joong said his stalkers se*ually assaulted him multiple times while he was sleeping in his house. I know for sure stalker were in his house when he was sleeping, because one psycho posted picture one time. I didn't saw articles about him suing these psychos. Either he didn't sue them, either police didn't care about that, either this information wasn't revealed to the public. Many k-pop and k-drama fans know about sasaengs. Fans of some idols even knowing their social media accounts. But I rarely see articles about stalkers getting sued. Just because they weren't sued, or this information weren't revealed to the public, it doesn't mean stalker don't exist.
"they portray something a side character does as bad" - I didn't see any side character with divorce which was…
Oh, I get it, I'm agree with you about the difference between reaction on main and side characters, as I saw it sometimes. But it doesn't mean that specific drama will treat their characters such way. I didn't see previous projects of the writer, maybe they didn't treat characters with divorce as problematic. There's not only main character who got divorced, all 4 characters of that drama got divorced. At least I read so in synopsis. Well, maybe only he divorced three times.
Lee Jung Jae: "Charged with assault, and many other crimes." - many other crimes, which ones exactly? The only crimes he did except assault is two DUIs 25 years ago. Let's not forget he was charging for assaulting his stalker, whom he hit while tried to pull her out of his car. This is information people don't ever mentioning while talking about his assault case. I don't understand how you putting him at the same list with pedophiles and rapists.
Koreans are running out of ideas! Industry is juggling between manhwa adaptions and remakes.
I went on your page out of curiosity, many dramas you gave high score to are manhwa adaptations: All of us are dead, Bloodhounds, At a Distance, Spring Is Green, Death's Game, Imawa no Kuni no Alice (manga), Study group, Taxi driver, The trauma code, The 8 show, Shark, Parasite (manga), Vigilante, Weak hero class, etc etc. I don't understand why you're complaining about that
For stupid people who LOVE to hate someone, I want to ask, can you check facts at least ONCE before you hating person for anything?? There are so many times I saw stupid k-drama incels starting to hate some celebrity without checking any information. Because they're too ignorant to spend 5 minutes to check anything, they would rather spend this precious time on hateful comments. People telling they have a reason to hate Han So Hee, as she created alt account to hate Lee Hyeri. My question: did you read the comments of that alt account? Did you read what exactly they wrote? Just answer, did you read it, yes or no? And second question, did you read the comments on which that alt account replied?? I know you didn't read a sh*t, otherwise there wouldn't be such negative reaction on Han So Hee. I'm so tired of such losers spending their time hating actress and thinking they're good people by doing that. While in reality you're a pathetic troll, who can't spent 5 minutes to check information you spreading, you'd rather spend that time on hate.
I won't say what they wrote, you stupid lazy sh*t should find it yourself, and should do it before accusing and hating someone. But I highly doubt you'd do it, because many of trolls are too lazy to check information they spreading, they're too stupid to even care about that, and changing opinion when they already decided to hate someone is harsh challenge for them.
Personally, I like her. I enjoy watching her tv projects because I think that she is a wonderful actress. That…
Some people would cry about someone's suicide and would blame cruel world for that, only to hate and insult someone with the same passion at the next week. They're disgusting, stupid and immature.
She’s been involved in her fair share of scandals. So far it never stopped her.
By scandals you mean smoking or what? She didn't have anything what can be called a scandal, except that thing with her ex a year ago. Whatever else trolls calling a "scandal", for example smoking cigarettes, isn't a scandal in the real life.
Divorce themed dramas never end well. It's mostly because they portray something a side character does as bad,…
"they portray something a side character does as bad" - I didn't see any side character with divorce which was portrayed as a bad thing. Can you name example?
Yep, so it's bullying to the exent of driving someone to commit suicide. The only difference is one is drunk while…
As I said, what's the point to start mentioning Kim Sae Ron "wrongdoings", under the comment which only said "bullying is a bad thing". Nothing else comes to my mind. Yes user said "knetz are wrong", and at the same time they said "you think consequences should just be a slap on the wrist"? And that phrase wasn't about police and how they should react on a crime, as discussion wasn't about them. For me their comments sound like they want to justify KSR bullying, but at the same time don't want to sound evil, so they playing with words. I repeat, I don't have any other idea in my mind to start to talk about KSR and how she "didn't regret what she did", under the comment which criticising bullying. If for you user's comment sound another way, please share, I'll be glad to be wrong.
It’s disappointing to see Hyper Knife fall into the same tired trope where the male lead is portrayed as a god-like…
I kinda halfway agree with you as I saw some k-dramas where boss hitting their employees was portrayed as a normal thing. Another one beyond my understanding is employers forced to drink alcohol at parties if boss offered it to them. The same with students and sonbae. But at the same time, we didn't watch a single episode of that drama yet. It's too early to judge something you didn't saw. Maybe it's your experience of watching another dramas talking, but still, you didn't watch that drama.
I love Mun Ka Young and Choi Hyun Wook, but after watching 1st episode I'm desperate to write my 2 cents of complaints. Probably will delete it later, but now I'll whine. They changed whole webtoon plot. The only similar thing is 30 minutes of the 1 episode, their younger days. The whole "16 years later" and after that is a completely different plot, has nothing to do with webtoon at all. First of all, drama is office romance, he's her boss, she works on him. In the webtoon it was "4 years later", they're 20s, they're students and they're neighbours! This has nothing to do with office at all. She's not an office employer, and he's not her chaebol boss. The characters are also not the same. He's not "cold outside, soft inside", female lead's character not like her either. They're like completely different characters. What's the point of doing adaptation of webtoon and adapt only 30 minutes, aka 2 chapters of webtoon? I was so anticipated to that drama, as plot and characters aren't typical, they're cute and touching, and I was interested to see their story on a screen, especially with these good actors. I still will watch it, I think drama can be good regardless of that, but as someone who likes webtoon and characters I disappointed by writer's decisions. If you're not adapting webtoon and changing everything, there's no point to call it an adaptation.
Yep, so it's bullying to the exent of driving someone to commit suicide. The only difference is one is drunk while…
OP said "DUI is extremely serious crime, but bullying someone to suicide is a bad", and your reply is "Obviously it is, but KSR did some things and she didn't regret about her crime". What's the point of your comment? The only answer comes to my mind is like you want to justify her bullying.
With that logic, with the toxic judgemental stuff you spew on the internet. Anybody you push to sucide makes you…
I kinda impressed you have so low level of empathy, under the article about her suicide you're talking about her getting drunk at friend's birthday. I don't believe person who doing that really cares about people.
With that logic, with the toxic judgemental stuff you spew on the internet. Anybody you push to sucide makes you…
You don't know a difference between getting drunk and drunk driving? There's a reason one of them called a crime why other aren't. Didn't thought I need to explain that. You're all good to be a judges without a second thinking.
With that logic, with the toxic judgemental stuff you spew on the internet. Anybody you push to sucide makes you…
Read their next comments. I think the person who lost legs because of the drunk driver have right to say that. But still, Kim Sae Ron paid for what she did. I think she regret about it a lot of times.
I'm not saying he's a fraud or not, but there's not much information about this case except both sides suing each other.
You're asking about the credible source of assault case. At the end of the comment I send to you a link to a thread with all Lee Jung Jae's allegations.
I didn't find police report, I read journalists articles made at the time it happened. Journalists called woman "a fan" and said she followed Lee Jung Jae to his car and tried to get there. Based on that information I assumed it's a sasaeng, because normal fan wouldn't do that.
I'm sending to you the thread with all allegations about Lee Jung Jae (expect fraud's case). There's also mentioned that second assault case and how it was debunked. And there's also a post with sources and links, so you can check it yourself.
You can read that thread and decide if sources mentioned there is credible enough for you. If you wouldn't find sources to korean articles I mentioned, ask me, I will sent them.
https://x.com/pinkcake2013
"just because she was a stalker, that does not mean he can get violent with her by dragging and kicking her." - just because?? You talking about stalkers as they're harmless creatures. And you forgot to mention he did that AFTER she got into his car. And he hit her while tried to drag from his car. What did she did there by your opinion?
You can have your opinion about if someone can hit a stalker when they trying to break into their car or not, but it's definitely not at the same level as rape, pedophilia, or school bullying. Among all these people Lee Jung Jae's assault case looks like a white caw.
"Third, if she was a stalker, why did he not sue her for harassment and stalking?" - don't ask me about it, I'm not his friend. I can't know why he didn't sue her.
All I know is, it happened more than 20 years ago, and korean "fans" at these times were even crazier than now.
15 years ago idol Kim Jae Joong had traumatic experience with stalkers. He changed his apartments multiple times because his stalkers found out his address and tried to sneak into his house. Sometimes they even did it. On some show Kim Jae Joong said how he called police, and police said to him "They're your fans. They're just showing their love to you". And I know untill now some crazy stalkers still following Kim Jae Joong. He had terrible experience with all of this, you can google it.
Based on this I'm guessing sasaengs weren't taken seriously 25 years ago. But this is just my assumption, I can't know the real reason for sure, I'm not Lee Jung Jae's or that sasaeng's friend.
Kim Jae Joong said his stalkers se*ually assaulted him multiple times while he was sleeping in his house. I know for sure stalker were in his house when he was sleeping, because one psycho posted picture one time. I didn't saw articles about him suing these psychos. Either he didn't sue them, either police didn't care about that, either this information wasn't revealed to the public.
Many k-pop and k-drama fans know about sasaengs. Fans of some idols even knowing their social media accounts. But I rarely see articles about stalkers getting sued. Just because they weren't sued, or this information weren't revealed to the public, it doesn't mean stalker don't exist.
But it doesn't mean that specific drama will treat their characters such way. I didn't see previous projects of the writer, maybe they didn't treat characters with divorce as problematic.
There's not only main character who got divorced, all 4 characters of that drama got divorced. At least I read so in synopsis. Well, maybe only he divorced three times.
Let's not forget he was charging for assaulting his stalker, whom he hit while tried to pull her out of his car. This is information people don't ever mentioning while talking about his assault case.
I don't understand how you putting him at the same list with pedophiles and rapists.
I don't understand why you're complaining about that
There are so many times I saw stupid k-drama incels starting to hate some celebrity without checking any information. Because they're too ignorant to spend 5 minutes to check anything, they would rather spend this precious time on hateful comments.
People telling they have a reason to hate Han So Hee, as she created alt account to hate Lee Hyeri.
My question: did you read the comments of that alt account? Did you read what exactly they wrote? Just answer, did you read it, yes or no? And second question, did you read the comments on which that alt account replied??
I know you didn't read a sh*t, otherwise there wouldn't be such negative reaction on Han So Hee.
I'm so tired of such losers spending their time hating actress and thinking they're good people by doing that. While in reality you're a pathetic troll, who can't spent 5 minutes to check information you spreading, you'd rather spend that time on hate.
I won't say what they wrote, you stupid lazy sh*t should find it yourself, and should do it before accusing and hating someone.
But I highly doubt you'd do it, because many of trolls are too lazy to check information they spreading, they're too stupid to even care about that, and changing opinion when they already decided to hate someone is harsh challenge for them.
They're disgusting, stupid and immature.
Whatever else trolls calling a "scandal", for example smoking cigarettes, isn't a scandal in the real life.
Can you name example?
Nothing else comes to my mind.
Yes user said "knetz are wrong", and at the same time they said "you think consequences should just be a slap on the wrist"? And that phrase wasn't about police and how they should react on a crime, as discussion wasn't about them. For me their comments sound like they want to justify KSR bullying, but at the same time don't want to sound evil, so they playing with words.
I repeat, I don't have any other idea in my mind to start to talk about KSR and how she "didn't regret what she did", under the comment which criticising bullying.
If for you user's comment sound another way, please share, I'll be glad to be wrong.
But at the same time, we didn't watch a single episode of that drama yet. It's too early to judge something you didn't saw.
Maybe it's your experience of watching another dramas talking, but still, you didn't watch that drama.
https://m.comic.naver.com/webtoon/list?titleId=733080&page=1&week=tue&sortOrder=ASC
This is on korean, but you can just scroll first 5-6 chapters to see the difference between webtoon and drama.
They changed whole webtoon plot. The only similar thing is 30 minutes of the 1 episode, their younger days. The whole "16 years later" and after that is a completely different plot, has nothing to do with webtoon at all.
First of all, drama is office romance, he's her boss, she works on him.
In the webtoon it was "4 years later", they're 20s, they're students and they're neighbours! This has nothing to do with office at all. She's not an office employer, and he's not her chaebol boss.
The characters are also not the same. He's not "cold outside, soft inside", female lead's character not like her either. They're like completely different characters.
What's the point of doing adaptation of webtoon and adapt only 30 minutes, aka 2 chapters of webtoon?
I was so anticipated to that drama, as plot and characters aren't typical, they're cute and touching, and I was interested to see their story on a screen, especially with these good actors.
I still will watch it, I think drama can be good regardless of that, but as someone who likes webtoon and characters I disappointed by writer's decisions. If you're not adapting webtoon and changing everything, there's no point to call it an adaptation.
https://m.comic.naver.com/webtoon/list?titleId=733080
Also webtoon pretty different from the drama. It doesn't look like office romance
What's the point of your comment? The only answer comes to my mind is like you want to justify her bullying.
I don't believe person who doing that really cares about people.
There's a reason one of them called a crime why other aren't.
Didn't thought I need to explain that.
You're all good to be a judges without a second thinking.
But still, Kim Sae Ron paid for what she did. I think she regret about it a lot of times.