AleksandraSucur

Bc, the lead actors usually appear in traffic idol dramas. And while the drama deals with very original and even heavy issues, the authors still decided to maintain certain "idol drama tropes" (like fall from the cliff) although never abused them.
It's fine, I have nothing against idol dramas, on the contrary. It required courage to put such a story in this kind of setting. I'm not disappointed, but still fear I may be... I've explained above

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I don't mind at all. Yes, my origins are from the Balkans. That's probably the reason why I've met and talked to so men and women suffering from PTSD and later deepened the knowledge through scientific reading

maybe even with alcohol, which is another form of sugar

I was so delighted seeing how the ML handled (or better, how the SCRIPT tackled) her mental issue. I simply must break the scene in details:
1. after the initial shock, he doesn't contradict his wife by saying the truth (not even politely: "look, you are imagining things, there's no person other than us here"). An expert would advise: if you ever get in such a situation - that's the RIGHT APPROACH!
2. Worried, he quickly calls for a physician and consults him.
3. The doctor's diagnosis - she suffers from a HEARTBREAK - truly made me transmigrate in that room and in that time. "Heartbreak" is the word I've seen/read/heard in so many Classical dramas (Edgar in King Lear, the Sophocles's Ajax, Aeschylus's Oristheia thrilogy), read about it in ancient folktales, examples often quoted in manuals dealing with PTSD as examples from "ancient wisdom" on behaviour and symptoms of traumatised persons. Symptoms we would all experience if we lived experiences a normal brain can't process or handle, because they are too harsh, too injust, too absurd to consider real... Then the brain activates its defensive mechanisms, erasing, rescribing, reelaborating the memory and the behaviour...

To deal with such an important and delicate issue (in an idol drama!) is already 10/10, just for the courage! Do not want to repeat what many other commentators pointed out: cinematography, music, care for details, superb performance (while I've seen a great potential in Cheng Lei even before and he certianly didn't disappoint me in this drama, I was never a fan of Bai Lu, but she totally won me over with her Ye Lu: every expression is spot on: I relate and love Ye Lu with all my heart). This is a great story, a great script.

Why the rating isn't soaring as it would deserve? It is gradually climbing, right, but at the point we are watching, it deserves at least 9. Eg., the story is definitely more intriguing and better told than certain dramas rated 8.9 (I won't name to avoid futile debates). I think we fear, at least, I fear, the story will falter. Personally, the story of a diviner condemned for having set the fire to the CP's palace (in the last ep) is unsettling me. I'll be disappointed if the reason consort Qin didn't save ML's bro with the edict was some sinister divination... It's already strange such a calculative and well grounded person can believe in a divination that ED's is her fortune ascendant, but it'll be intollerable if they use divination to justify eventual criminal actions or inactions
So, it's the kind of narrative that suspends our judgment and it is ok it does. 🙂

No, but it is highly unhealthy, for teeth and intestines and causes glicemic peaks. Glicemic peaks (ups and downs) may alterate the mood. A prolonged uncontrolled consumption of sugar will cause addiction to sugar, obesity, diabetes II and a series of other problems connected with last two factors.
Unaware people should definitely avoid to follow FL's diet.

It's very easy to say "I know what ptsd, schizophrenia and DID look like in patients" without providing arguments to support your statement and without counter-argumenting mine which prove her "symptoms" are all in PTSD range, bc you don't read "alladat". Concluding with a "lets agree to disagree", a statement nobody can argue while it's a nice way to call for an easy draw. 😏

Well, you've listed many PTSD symptoms she IS experiencing and that's already a good start. It isn't true she sees Qing Shuang without any stress. She sees her when she needs to assess a problem or to fight loneliness or simply to talk to. It may look a bit dramatic, but we are watching a drama, a work of fiction and artistic creation, a "lie that tells the truth" to say it poetically, not a documentary on PTSD.
Who says her seeing master Zhu fighting snakes is outside the PTSD range? Dissociative fugue and identity alteration are among (many symptoms) of PTSD, treated even in classical literature: in King Lear, Edgar (who suffers from trauma caused by his murderous father) sees himself as another person, "poor Tom", a beggar possessed by demons, thing often quoted in manuals. while Ajax (both in Sophocles tragedy, based on the story told in Odissey but without specific preceeding PTSD details) storms sheep and cows imagining they are Greeks who took Achilles's weapons, torturing them for many days without ever realising they were not even humans but animals. These both examples from literature are so much quoted in scientific texts on PTSD.
Finally, to be diagnosed with PTSD, a person doesn't need to show ALL the symptoms (which may also appear in other mental disturbs), but a certain number of them on the list of generic symptoms. A person develops those symptoms accordingly to the specific trauma and to the specific trigger on the memory. Based on what we've seen and what was hinted till now in the drama, every person - with a normal brain - would show Ye Li's symptoms, bc normal brain protects person's life and survival against an unacceptable reality

She is neither schizophrenic nor has a multiple personality disorder. She lived/survived through important traumatic events no normal brain could have accept as a reality, so the brain either erased or rescripted such memories, but they are triggered when a person is exposed to stress or pressure and than creates alternative reality and imagery which supports it to contrast and suppress them again from re-emerging. In modern psychiatric science, it is called PTSD

Hm, it shouldn't. She and her mother tried everything to protect his bro and he knows the relations between his wife and Ye family are not good, he only just doesn't know why how and why her mom died. If he finds out she died bc of the edict, he won't blame her or her mother.
But there's another problem connected with the edict. It was given to consort Qin, meaning she could have save but she didn't. The story of a diviner condemned for having set the fire to the CP's palace is unsettling me. I'll be disappointed if the reason she didn't save ML's bro with the edict was some sinister divination...
It's already strange such a calculative and well grounded person can believe in a divination that ED's is her fortune ascendant, but it'll be intollerable if they use divination to justify eventual criminal actions or inactions

No, he does not

Well, he spoke in favour of Lishan scholars framed by Muyang and Ye Li said they would have been liberated if prince Li didn't sign that confession. He also supported MXY's nomination for prefect and was his superior in the army, so he is definitely against the Muyang's gang which is - ED like it or not - her greatest support in the court and ultimately the material force/source of the power which enables her to have such ambitions... I too expect Hua to play a role in taking her down, just found unnatural the absence of maternal and grandmaternal relatives of prince Li in this drama.

In Ye Li's story, he was sent to Lishan "to recuperate" after being ill as a kid. In his story, everybody at Lishan excessively revered him, only she treated him as a friend, helping him to learn things. So, I'm not sure that he was sent there to receive particularly good education but what you've said about the "legitimity" of his brothers stands and we have no clue about these issues.
And yes, it's true that HD Xu sent him to Hua for safety. I've read a comment of a novel reader saying Duke Hua was the father of the former empress (or maybe CP's wife, can't remember precisely, but they were blood related in the novel). I wonder if such a thing will come later on in the drama. It's strange how all the stars lined up with ED eith years ago, as there were no former empress's or crown princess's relatives - people certainly interested to put their blood relative on the throne - at all. Did you notice this thing, too?

Heh, what's the "best" is always debatable in politics. Li Shimin's father passed the throne onto his elder son (and CP) when he was still pretty healthy indeed, but Li Shimin nevertheless orchestrated a military coup, killed his bro and forced his emeritus father to validate his coup. If he weren't a very successful emperor later, we would have talked about this method as "the worse", bc the existence of a living emperor emeritus allows to legally validate what is illegal (rebellions, coups etc) in substance. Ottomans argued that their empire was strong and "healthy" untill the succession system in which one son of the dead sultan kills all his other brother together with their mothers (to "confort them in death") was legally in place. So, lets' avoid valutations on legal-political questions and return to the drama.
Imo, prince Li could have stayed at Lishan, he had other bros who lived with his father (he mentioned that he hated them) and could have eventually be summoned back for his father's ascension. If CP or the former emperor feared certain political factions or ED would not respect CP's succession, leaving one son outside the capital would be only a reason to keep him outside and not to summon him. But, we will certainly see the reason why prince Ding was called back. There's even a slight possibility that someone else faked the imperial edict and orchestrated the whole set up in interest of Cangbei, which gained 4 cities lost by Chu.

It was CP who called his back to the capital. And when it was mentioned, I've had a feeling that summon was falsified by Muyang gang in order to capture Prince Li while the people inside the palace (Qin consort or ED) would deal with CP and his family inside imperial gates.

But ofc., ours are all only suppositions and guessings, like you've said

She doesn't suffer from a split personality. Her personality totally corresponds to a PTSD. I've met, talked with and read a lot about people with this disturb. Although each person is a per se case and certain symptoms may manifest or not depending on the specific trauma and injustice suffered, (eg. persons who suffered a trauma that make them subconsciuosly feel guilty, like women victims of repeated sexual violence, often alleviate the psychological pain with self-inflicting injuries. It's similar to the knife injuries MJL inflicted on his arm when remembered Lishan people framed by his confession, while people who suffered brutal repeated beatings and starvation often develop ruthless behaviour themselves), they all suffer from a sufficient number of PTSD general symptoms to be diagnosed.
Ye Li reminded me of a person who suffered from a terrible and repeated (sexual and physical) abuse and was under treatment for 6 years when I met her. Normally, she behaved like Ye Li, just living a normal life: after the trauma, she managed to graduate from faculty of agriculture, she had a good job as quality product officer in a big food company and even had a supportive and caring boyfriend she was about to marry. The only thing that would look a bit odd was an eccessive care for certain details, like cleanness of hands, dress, environment, which probably helped her to remain focused on "daily" tasks and daily problem solvings giving her a comfortable feeling of being in control of herslef. Ye Li also has similar deep focus on daily tasks. But even after so many years of treatment, she could not talk about the trauma without strong medications (the specialist used hypnosis with her to avoid side effects of medications). And believe me, even under medication used to numb the psychological pain of remembering, she would tremble like a leaf and looked weak and vulnerable like Ye Li when dropped in Mo Yao's arms. When she started the therapy, her brain erased and rescripted almost all of those memories, she suffered from nightmares and, under stress, of imagery of persons (including dead) who where not present. She wasn't a split personality at all, what she lived in her normal daily life were just symptoms of this disturb.
I've read here this morning that Ye Li refused to face her memories and the reality, as if it was something she could intentionally choose to do. When a human person trascends a line of sufference and pain from injustice and brutal violence, our brain (I mean: the brain of any of us) simply cannot accept the reality (bc. it's too absurd, too opposing to everything we are and we know), it starts to reset, reshape that reality into smth more bearable and acceptable, otherwise we can't survive.

We've heard two accounts, Ye Li's and Mo Jing Li's. Combined, they outline the following progression of events related to MJL: 1. his father, the CP, summoned him back to the capital bc his grandfather, the emperor was ill -> 2. the emperor died when he was on the road -> 3. he was captured and forced to sign a confession framing Lishan people as his kidnappers -> 4. during that time (he was held by Muyang's people), Eastern Palace was burned.
If these two accounts are correct, CP was alive at the moment of the emperor's death and there was no reason for the emperor to discuss another successor or nominate a regent, CP was old and experienced enough to take full powers immediately upon ascension.

yes, I agree on the status of her father, we should keep that in mind

When the former emperor died, Crown Prince was still alive, and Li didn't need a regent