Plot wise it's fine, lots to tell yet. But I'm more concerned that he started walking so fast in general. It's…
I agree with you about acupuncture, it could help with pain, improve blood circulation and autonomous nervous system, but the dramas' use of it as a miracle tool for everything lowers the credibility of the stories told. As for his legs, we don't know precisely how badly they were injured but we have some vague infos. It was said that the reason why he was on a wheelchair was due to the fact he wasn't timely treated and was underfed and untreated for 6 months when he was in prison. But after that period, he returned to his mansion, received treatments from doctors and above all, has a thermal pool which helps a lot with microcirculation (vital to keep tissues alive). The most important thing isn't a muscular loss which starts almost immediately when we don't use certain muscles, the loss is the same after 6 months he spent in prison and 8 years on a wheelchair, but the infection that eventually occurs if the bones fail to reconnect, leading to necrosis (and the necessity to amputate the affected leg). But his bones reconnected (he is young and bone cells still grow), just not in the right way to sustain the weight of the body and there was no infection. So, technically, once they are reset in order to reconnect in the right way, his rehabilitation can start as if they were freshly broken. The bone and muscle regrowth will take some time but 3 months are sufficient to restore them to the point in which musculoskeletal structure of his lower body sustains the weight of his upper body.
I mean the love rival princess and who she comes with is actually a huge part of the novel, thats the enemy country…
1. Independently of the reason of the summoning, the edict is an evidence he didn't abandoned his military post but was called back by the emperor. He was convicted for "abandoning the post" and the edict is a proof he didn't. The summoning is summoning, it's an order, doesn't even need to contain the reason why you are called. Even today, when the court summons you, you must appear, period. 2. Bc. when FL's mom visited him in prison - it means he was in the capital: in the prison. He told her where's the edict and she went to take it, calling her father to come to the capital as well. When Yes took it from her she was saying: father is coming too. They've took it nevertheless bc the Eastern palace was burnt meanwhile and they've interpreted the circumstances as "the ED is the winner, the last (wo)man standing and she + Muyang want prince Ding dead. We must get rid of this hot potato". It was also said that the suspects for the fire where apprehended IMMEDIATELY, the same day. As the diviner was among them, the only logical conclusion is: the diviner and ML's bro were in prison at the same time. With the edict in her hands, consort Qin could have saved one of them. 3. ofc we need further infos about this subplot, but we already have enough infos to reconstruct the dynamic as in point 1 and 2. They are not assumptions, they are reconstructions and arguments which support my opinion
I mean the love rival princess and who she comes with is actually a huge part of the novel, thats the enemy country…
You're wrong. We know what edict contained: it summoned prince Ding back to the capital. And we know enough on the dynamics of the events: when Yes took the edict from Ye Li's mom, he was still alive. They've took it bc the Eastern palace was burnt (and the ED seemed unrivaled in power) - that's true, but FL's uncle said the diviner was imprisoned for days while consort Qin was trying to help him pressing the ED to free him from charges. That means the ML's brother and the diviner were incarcerated at the same time.
I think she went on that underground route out of pure curiosity, simply to verify is he really dead or not. She…
why not? She is a consort dowager, a person of high status, who can take the edict to court. She knew her friend wasn't guilty, she could have proposed to the ED: I'll give you the edict in change of my friend's life, otherwise I'll take to the court and you can't condemn prince Ding.
But she just passively stand by while both prince Ding and her friend were condemned and executed. It doesn't make much sense to me, that's why I find this part of the plot weak
I mean the love rival princess and who she comes with is actually a huge part of the novel, thats the enemy country…
Thank you for this info and your patient expectations for Consort Qin. I was just exposing my impressions on the last ep (19) and that the only interesting thing imo was that kick.
As for the edict which could have saved ML's brother from death - it was handed to the Qin consort. If she didn't want to save ML's bro with it, she could have still traded the edict in change of life of the person she cared for (ie., the diviner).
That vice-prefect discovered on his own skin and bones the deep meaning of the expression: (he is) BACK ON HIS FEET! One of these feet made him fly accross the office and (how we would live without?) bloodspitting.
Imo, this was the only important higlight of the last ep. ML's kick directed to a Muyang's person among his ranks is a preluding metaphore for the attitude he'll adopt towards Muyang. For the rest, I feel the plot is starting to go downwards (tomorrow we've seen the first half), introducing characters we can care less (Qin boy and Lin girl are not much of a problem, I already see Ye Li finding finally a REAL girl friend, thus spending less time with the virtual one, but the trailers introducing bratty loving rival princess and her crew don't look promising)...
Certain inconsistencies between the plot and the characters are also showing up: Consort Qin looked like a smart, calculative and well-grounded person. Yesterday, we've discovered she believes in divinations and today thay she doesn't know ED burnt down the Eastern Palace to grab power for herself - a crime which was attributed to her friend diviner which she couldn't save bc. "the empress couldn't find enough evidence to free him from charges", meaning ED didn't want to find that evidence and used her friend diviner as a scapegoat. And for how much she is a side-character and the problem may be overlooked, she is still a person who kept and still keeps the important item for ML's claim for justice for his bro: the edict.
Ep. 19: I hate it when in a drama everyone is dumbed down to make the heroine look intelligent..... it was extremely…
I think she went on that underground route out of pure curiosity, simply to verify is he really dead or not. She has conflicted feelings towards him: they were friends at Lishan, yet she finds him detestable. But I agree with you: while she was thorough in studing the undeground channels map, she was superficial about the physical place, sealed and monitored by forces of her enemy. She noticed when she was followed by "bangling assassin" as PBG called him, but neither she nor he (who has good martial arts skills) noticed a person who was in the room when they discovered the underground entrance. I'm not marveled at the fact she didn't called captain Li to stay somewhere behind her "scanning" eventual perils, bc she never consults with anybody when decides to act - she has an imagery maid with her naive questions when assesses the problems and "brainstorms" the solutions - but I'm marveled how captain Li isn't around by himself, does he trust her husband can keep her in check, doesn't he worry there might be problems when husband discovers her imagery? If he took seriously her task to search for master Zhu and that's the reason why he isn't around then he should also check on his brain, lol.
But I also feel certain inconsistencies in the plot-characters relation. Consort Qin looked like a smart, calculative and well-grounded person. And recently we discovered she believes in divinations and doesn't know ED burnt down the Eastern Palace to grab power for herself - a crime which was attributed to her friend diviner which she couldn't save bc. "the empress couldn't find enough evidence to free him for charges", meaning she didn't want to find that evidence and used her friend diviner as a scapegoat. Although she is a side-character, this plot is very weak for a person who keeps the edict, so important for ML's claim for justice for his bro.
I also agree with you regarding Muyang and his sons, but lets see...
I wonder how their necks don't crack under the weight. I've read somewhere the average weight of those wedding…
One of my dearest (Italian) friends married a girl from Yogyakarta many years ago. While he was completely dressed in Indonesian style (with typical hat, sarong, etc. everything was in golden nuances and richly embroidered), her wedding dress was Western style white, so I suppose she didn't appreciate the tradition at all. It was a Muslim wedding, the wows were made on the knees, but there were syncretistic elements, like flower garlands around the neck, too. They were living between Yogyakarta and Bali for many years before moving to Cambodia 3 years ago. You're living in a very interesting corner of the world, I've never been there myself but my son, who is living in Australia and has more opportunity to explore the region, finds it fascinating, great people, great food.
This drama is getting better and better each day 💕The First Jasmine has great storytelling, flawless characters…
I wonder how their necks don't crack under the weight. I've read somewhere the average weight of those wedding crowns was 2,5 kg while of those "richer", with more gold and gems, could have reached 3-3,5 kg. Insane
Isn't one of the ingredients (gluten, yeast or egg) could cause allergic? So the doctor was right in advising…
yes, all those singular ingredients could cause allergy, but she ate them before and they didn't cause her any allergic effect. The only thing she eats in elevated quantities bc. she was craving it at Lishan was sugar. And they didn't tell the doc about it, did they? He would certainly advised against, lol. Actually, my comment was to express how much I care about her. Can't remeber when a fictional character grew up on my heart as Ye Li's. I am completely smitten ❤️and can identify with A'Yao as well.
Allergic to mantou? People are intollerant to specific ingredients, not dishes. And those rashes are probably caused by glycemic peaks and glycation of skin collagen. No wonder given she lives on sugar. The doctor's advise to drink more water is fine but she should change her dietary habits asap! A'Yao, hide sugar and carbs from her! 🙂↔️
Guys, got a question, prince Ding, did he inherit his title from his dad or brother? When did his father die?…
He inherited the title after his brother was executed and after he was declared not guilty and freed from prison. As we never seen the father and his elder brother held the title, we can reasonably deem he was already dead.
It isn't just the cliff, hair combing, being together in the pool with some muscle show off, helping with (un)dressing, saving a damsel in distress, kite flying, exaggerated skills of the leads... which may appear marginally even in other types of dramas and in this one the use of tropes was certainly limited in terms of time and good taste... but there are certain recognizible patterns in the romantic relationship between the leads and in the overall setting we've all seen many times as one commentator exhaustively listed recently, pointing out how - despite those patterns - the story still feels original and fresh and I agree with that opinion. Besides, if the story is good and is executed well, why would we care if it is an idol drama or not? What's important is our feeling while watching, what it gives us, what we learn from it and how we emphatize with the characters.
I see. I think it isn't the age of the leading actors to define one drama as "idol", but the type of roles and drama production leading actors were usually into. With drama products not really interested in telling good stories but in creating fandoms.
As for his legs, we don't know precisely how badly they were injured but we have some vague infos. It was said that the reason why he was on a wheelchair was due to the fact he wasn't timely treated and was underfed and untreated for 6 months when he was in prison. But after that period, he returned to his mansion, received treatments from doctors and above all, has a thermal pool which helps a lot with microcirculation (vital to keep tissues alive). The most important thing isn't a muscular loss which starts almost immediately when we don't use certain muscles, the loss is the same after 6 months he spent in prison and 8 years on a wheelchair, but the infection that eventually occurs if the bones fail to reconnect, leading to necrosis (and the necessity to amputate the affected leg). But his bones reconnected (he is young and bone cells still grow), just not in the right way to sustain the weight of the body and there was no infection. So, technically, once they are reset in order to reconnect in the right way, his rehabilitation can start as if they were freshly broken. The bone and muscle regrowth will take some time but 3 months are sufficient to restore them to the point in which musculoskeletal structure of his lower body sustains the weight of his upper body.
2. Bc. when FL's mom visited him in prison - it means he was in the capital: in the prison. He told her where's the edict and she went to take it, calling her father to come to the capital as well. When Yes took it from her she was saying: father is coming too. They've took it nevertheless bc the Eastern palace was burnt meanwhile and they've interpreted the circumstances as "the ED is the winner, the last (wo)man standing and she + Muyang want prince Ding dead. We must get rid of this hot potato". It was also said that the suspects for the fire where apprehended IMMEDIATELY, the same day. As the diviner was among them, the only logical conclusion is: the diviner and ML's bro were in prison at the same time. With the edict in her hands, consort Qin could have saved one of them.
3. ofc we need further infos about this subplot, but we already have enough infos to reconstruct the dynamic as in point 1 and 2. They are not assumptions, they are reconstructions and arguments which support my opinion
And we know enough on the dynamics of the events: when Yes took the edict from Ye Li's mom, he was still alive. They've took it bc the Eastern palace was burnt (and the ED seemed unrivaled in power) - that's true, but FL's uncle said the diviner was imprisoned for days while consort Qin was trying to help him pressing the ED to free him from charges. That means the ML's brother and the diviner were incarcerated at the same time.
But she just passively stand by while both prince Ding and her friend were condemned and executed. It doesn't make much sense to me, that's why I find this part of the plot weak
I was just exposing my impressions on the last ep (19) and that the only interesting thing imo was that kick.
As for the edict which could have saved ML's brother from death - it was handed to the Qin consort. If she didn't want to save ML's bro with it, she could have still traded the edict in change of life of the person she cared for (ie., the diviner).
Imo, this was the only important higlight of the last ep. ML's kick directed to a Muyang's person among his ranks is a preluding metaphore for the attitude he'll adopt towards Muyang. For the rest, I feel the plot is starting to go downwards (tomorrow we've seen the first half), introducing characters we can care less (Qin boy and Lin girl are not much of a problem, I already see Ye Li finding finally a REAL girl friend, thus spending less time with the virtual one, but the trailers introducing bratty loving rival princess and her crew don't look promising)...
Certain inconsistencies between the plot and the characters are also showing up: Consort Qin looked like a smart, calculative and well-grounded person. Yesterday, we've discovered she believes in divinations and today thay she doesn't know ED burnt down the Eastern Palace to grab power for herself - a crime which was attributed to her friend diviner which she couldn't save bc. "the empress couldn't find enough evidence to free him from charges", meaning ED didn't want to find that evidence and used her friend diviner as a scapegoat. And for how much she is a side-character and the problem may be overlooked, she is still a person who kept and still keeps the important item for ML's claim for justice for his bro: the edict.
But I also feel certain inconsistencies in the plot-characters relation. Consort Qin looked like a smart, calculative and well-grounded person. And recently we discovered she believes in divinations and doesn't know ED burnt down the Eastern Palace to grab power for herself - a crime which was attributed to her friend diviner which she couldn't save bc. "the empress couldn't find enough evidence to free him for charges", meaning she didn't want to find that evidence and used her friend diviner as a scapegoat. Although she is a side-character, this plot is very weak for a person who keeps the edict, so important for ML's claim for justice for his bro.
I also agree with you regarding Muyang and his sons, but lets see...
They were living between Yogyakarta and Bali for many years before moving to Cambodia 3 years ago. You're living in a very interesting corner of the world, I've never been there myself but my son, who is living in Australia and has more opportunity to explore the region, finds it fascinating, great people, great food.
Actually, my comment was to express how much I care about her. Can't remeber when a fictional character grew up on my heart as Ye Li's. I am completely smitten ❤️and can identify with A'Yao as well.
I think it isn't the age of the leading actors to define one drama as "idol", but the type of roles and drama production leading actors were usually into. With drama products not really interested in telling good stories but in creating fandoms.