I don't dispute that in my comment at all. In general, I like the series, as I already wrote. My only problem is the lack of chemistry between the main characters, which detracts from the viewing experience. That's my personal opinion.
I waited for a few episodes to come out so I wouldn't have to wait every week, and I've just finished watching episode 7. Overall, I like it; the series is so sunny, the scenery is gorgeous, and it captures the feeling of a small Taiwanese fishing and tourist village. I also like the concept, but the main couple just doesn't quite click for me: the two main characters. While I really like the supporting couple and the boys at school, the main couple simply doesn't work for me. It's not that I don't think they're good actors, absolutely not. They play their roles very well, but watching the action, seeing their interactions, and considering that it's a romance, I don't feel it in their performance. The main couple simply lacks chemistry, in my personal opinion. There's so much emotion, so much has happened, so much tension and feelings, but I don't feel it between them. It's a shame, because this could have been one of my favorite Thai BLs. I'm still watching but I don't think I'll change my mind about the main couple.
Wow, what a beautiful story, brilliantly executed. The two couples are so different, yet perfectly matched. I truly enjoyed the series and eagerly awaited each new episode every week. The only thing I missed—and please don't call me perverse—was a NC scene at the end of the series. For seven episodes, the two characters were like brothers and soulmates, and only at the very end did they reassure each other that their love was romantic. That's why I so desperately wanted a romantic and NC scene at the end of the episode, a kind of seal of their relationship. LOL !!!!!
A truly beautiful series, with great cinematography, music, and the whole nostalgic setting is fascinating. But why does it take the main couple so long to understand what's happening? They're super intelligent, and yet they interpret their feelings as "best friends"? Even the secondary couple managed to come to an understanding within three episodes, despite their much more difficult circumstances.
I hope this series doesn't end with some drama like "going abroad to study and meeting by chance after 15 years when both have wives and three children." Please don't!
I'm actually only interested in Raffy and Rome. I don't know what happened, but where did that amazing chemistry between Joss and Gawin go, and why is the Jack and Dean story so boring and lacking in energy? Aou and Boom really do all the work in this show, at least in my eyes... of course, the "hidden ad" for Calvin Klein shorts should be mentioned, great, especially the red one on Joss!
After two episodes, I have to say I really like it, and a rating below 8 is a bit low in my opinion.
I like that the main characters are equal in the sense that neither of them is a loser tripping over their own two feet, and neither of them is heroic, flawless, and ready to save the other. This heteronormative concept so often used in Japanese dramas is simply irritating to me.
Here, it's not the case, and the two guys are equal. Both are masters of their craft, neither needs to save the other. What's more, both are handsome and simply attractive.
Zen definitely knows what he's talking about (in my opinion), and all he does is simply bait Ren, and when things get uncomfortable, he simply runs away. It's clear that this "night together" left quite a mark on his feelings for Ren, but since he wants to win the bet, he doesn't show it. As for Ren, it's clear that he's harbored love for Zen since school... I don't know what this news about the hotel means or who the person Ren is "talking" to is; I'm betting on Ren's ex-lover, and maybe there will be some kind of confrontation with Zen? I'm looking forward to the next episode.
i dont think it is inmoral, you and other are just judging from the age gap. Not one second you think on Akira,…
I don't know what problems you have and why you're looking for relief here, but just leave me alone because what you're doing has gone far beyond the scope of commenting on the plot of the series.
i dont think it is inmoral, you and other are just judging from the age gap. Not one second you think on Akira,…
I'm not lecturing anyone, I'm only stating my opinion on a TV SHOW. Not a real human being and their life story and choices, but a character. In a BL series. A fictional story about fictional characters.
Of course queer people have high suicide rates because we live in a society that is entirely too closed-minded and negative to them, but what does that have to do with, again, a fictional show? Besides, how is someone taking advantage of a younger, vulnerable person a way for him to "find help"? Come on now. If anything this is how young, hurt people find themselves in bad situations.
But, as I said, again, this is only a fictional show about fictional characters not someone's true life story. And I'm merely stating my opinion just like you are stating yours. And if you don't agree with me, so be it, arguing won't change my mind just like it won't change yours.
i dont think it is inmoral, you and other are just judging from the age gap. Not one second you think on Akira,…
now how do you even know what gender I am? Besides being mean based on gender isn't in style nowadays. I know you want to just be mean or insult me, but all this does is prove you don't have anything truly to say. If you don't like my opinion, go and find people who agree with you. Arguing won't change my mind so why waste each other's time.
Phew... the problem was exaggerated because nothing actually happened, especially since Dean and Arnold were supposed to play the main roles, but... if they had simply talked about the incident in the woods, that they were drunk and started improvising or something, there wouldn't have been this mess. However, I understand Tua's disappointment because he lost his best friend (was Dean really a best friend or was he just taking advantage of the good-natured Tua?) and his new boyfriend. The black sheep of this whole group is definitely the manipulative Dean, and I wouldn't trust him for a second. I don't know why Jack is with him and fell for his acting for the second time, but I think we'll find out in the next episodes. Sure, love is blind and stupid, but it wasn't the first time, otherwise they wouldn't have broken up. I don't know who's in that car with Jack in the teaser for next episode, and I hope it's not Raffy. I thought Raffy finally realized that Romy was his best option and the only person he could trust, but I don't know if that was common sense or Raffy's true budding love for Romy. One thing's for sure, that video was posted by Pete, the liar and cheater. I don't know what he was trying to achieve with that? Maybe he thought he could win Romy over? He thought Rom would think Raffy was still in love with Jack, and he was the one who posted that compromising video of Arnold and Dean. In any case, the series is getting weaker with each episode, and the only couple I'm interested in is Raffy and Rom, while Arnold and Tua are probably their weakest appearance together. But that's just my opinion.
i dont think it is inmoral, you and other are just judging from the age gap. Not one second you think on Akira,…
I would advise you to reconsider your comment, as it reflects very poorly on you. No one is talking about fulfilling MY EXPECTATIONS OR CONVICTIONS, but simply about a minor being sexually exploited through emotional manipulation. This is a criminal offense, a misdemeanor, because Akira, a minor, can engage in sexual acts with a partner of the same age, but a man seven years older, who assumes the role of tutor, is not allowed to sexually abuse a minor (is not allowed to have sex with him), even if the minor consents without being aware of the manipulation. And that is a crucial difference. As an adult, of legal age and independent, Akira can make his own decisions about his life and doesn't have to please anyone or live his own life as long as he doesn't offend or harm anyone. Canada, in the world where I live, that is, in Central Europe, would face major problems and would be severely punished if such an affair were to come to light.
I really like it, it's witty, toxic, romantic, colorful, and very well-acted.
As for the characters, they fit the actors perfectly, or to put it another way, they're a great pairing, really. I'm very glad AuoBoom got one of the main roles in this series because they're one of my favorite BL acting couples.
What comes to mind after watching the last episode is that I don't really believe Arnold has romantic feelings for Tua. I think Arnold likes Tua, that he's very attached to him and somewhat obligated for what Tua did for him (getting him into acting), and he doesn't want to lose him as a friend, especially since they slept together. Arnold is a decent guy and I think he feels some kind of obligation to Tua.
I also don't believe Dean has these deep feelings for Jack. I think Dean is afraid of being alone and knows he'll never find a devoted lover and friend like Jack again, but at the same time, he's also tempted by other men because he likes people showing interest in him and likes to win and flirt.
I think that if Arnold had backed out at the last minute, in a flash of lightning, there in the woods under a tree, at night, drunk, Dean wouldn't have refused to have a quickie with Arnold.
As for Raffy: I don't know if he wants Jack or wants to play the lead in his plays...???? I think he'd like to take Dean's place, and as he said, he'd like to have what Dean has, including talent.
Raffy could simply choose Rome, who fell in love with him from the start, but Rome isn't his goal. I think he'll understand this sooner or later and come to his senses, most likely when Rome stops pursuing him. It's generally interesting to see what will come of this highly toxic situation.
For all of you who have their panties in a bunch and love the book/movie Call Me By Your Name. The main characters…
I try to be very tolerant and always respect someone's opinion or preferences, but in this case, I really can't. It's not that I want to offend you or anything, but I'm sorry, what you're writing is simply sick! The very fact that an adult man abused his position as a teacher/tutor and his age advantage is an unforgivable offense. Add to this the fact that Akira was a minor at the time of their interaction and a student, not a man who works, earns a living, and leads an adult life, but a high school student, relegated to adult care. These are two unforgivable facts: age and position in life. Moreover, the tutor knew perfectly well what he was doing, because you could literally see the fear in his eyes at the thought that Akira could talk about their relationship or that others could discover his secret, specifically his sexual encounters at the hotel with a minor! I know that there are cultures where child abuse is considered normal and is even religiously supported, but Japan is not a religious country and abuse like this, especially against minors, is punishable, so I don't know what's going on in your head and what motivates such statements.
The sole idea of this "balance" proposed by the tutor is sick. If he wanted balance, he should've found someone is own age and not a vulnerable high school student.
Also, even if the age of consent is 16, Akira was still a minor and not an adult, while his tutor was a grown adult. If the age of consent were 13 and Akira were, say, 14, while the tutor were an adult, would you still argue that's fine and consensual? A minor cannot give an adult their consent, end of story.
Lastly, it's more than okay to enjoy the show and have fun but at the same time to not agree with certain actions and choices the characters make. It's okay to enjoy a show that touches on taboo topics or touches on subjects like this but to still point out that these things are wrong and would be unacceptable in the real world. Enough people enjoy true crime podcasts while still believing, logically, that crime is bad. Art is meant to get us talking, to shine light on topics that often get hidden because they can make people feel uncomfortable, and that's what the show does. It shows something that happens to far too many young people and we can applaud it for it while still agreeing that it is wrong. One doesn't negate the other.
Have you watched To my shore? Both characters are equal in intelligence. Well ML is a schemer & manipulator,…
"To My Shore" is one of my favorite BL series, and it's truly phenomenal and exactly how I like it. Both characters are well-matched in appearance, age, and intelligence. The series is brilliantly acted and beautifully executed.
I also really like" Sammys"; I'm curious to see how the plot develops. I also like that the series has many comic moments, which balances the seriousness of the subject matter with its brutality.
Okay, we're already on episode 6, but since I just watched them all at once, I'll start from the beginning: from the very beginning. Akira was ruthlessly manipulated by a man seven years older than him, who, like him, is gay and Akira is an easy target because, firstly, he was going through the rough patch of adolescence and then he was at the very bottom, literally at rock bottom. A man seven years older, precisely at the time when one of them is still a child and the other is an adult (if one were 20 and the other 27, there wouldn't be any problem, not to mention when one is 30 and the other 37, etc., because in that situation, everyone is an adult), is in a completely different place in life than a growing teenager still sitting in school. I think Kanda, unable to get the one he loved, simply took his young brother. The very act of involving a young, inexperienced boy in an erotic affair is both immoral and cruel, because such a relationship leaves marks on the psyche. Kanda molded Akira the way he wanted; he put his own way of thinking into his head, gave him music to listen to, instilled in him slogans inspiring further romance, and consistently met him at a hotel for cold, no-strings-attached sex devoid of emotion, a pure act of "balance" in the name of "if you can't have what you want, take what you can get." Kanda did him an incredible disservice by depriving him of the opportunity to explore intimacy and a romantic relationships with someone equal and on the same level of experience. Kanda is perfectly aware that his relationship with Akira isn't positive, that it's bordering on a abuse. That's why he so cleverly directs Akira not to tell Kanata anything about it because it might hurt him. HA HA HA, how cunning... Akira is a very intelligent man, perhaps to his own misfortune, who was perfectly aware of the impurity of this relationship, but Kanda was the only person who knew his secret, and the only person who was like him and became his support—his balance—without whom, at that time, who knows what might have happened to him. Kanata, on the other hand, is just starting out in life, just growing up, and discovering himself and his queerness, which he likely didn't even know about until he met Akira. I really like this series; it's different, deeper, and really well-acted. I'm enchanted by Akira's beauty; he's beautiful and delicate... However, returning to the series, I liked episode 7 the least because it felt like a "time filler" that was allocated for this series. I don't understand why there was a complete rehash of the previous episode's ending? I would have liked to have spent it on some interaction between the main characters, on their conversations... I'm hoping for a happy ending, because they're both in love, so love has to win.
Overall, I really like this series and I adore Doung, who is such a kid and such a wise adult at the same time! However, I have a few observations about the plot and the character. I was struck by how insensitive Qin is towards Duang. I don't like that he kicks, pinches, and pushes him. I don't like this kind of behavior. I know they're guys, and nothing will change that, even if they're in love, but I definitely don't like it. I also don't like that Qin feeds off Duang's love, relishes it, and takes everything Duang gives him, but when confronted by Tiw, he can't take a specific stance. I don't understand why he even lets Tiw provoke him and plays this strange game of remembering the past, which, initially, was just friendship, only to later turn out to be love, but which is still irrelevant...? It's a bit complicated for my taste and too convoluted to be meaningless... My point is, Qin, if you and Duang agree to take the "period of conversation and reflection" seriously, why are you revisiting the past? Why are you delivering blow after blow in front of Duang and pouring salt into the wound by engaging in a conversation with Tiw? I don't understand this, especially since Qin is jealous of Duang and forces him to promise exclusivity. Does he think it only works one way?
It's a bit of egotistical abuse, and I definitely wouldn't tolerate it. If I were Duang, I would probably leave this battlefield and give Qin time to think about what he really wants.
However, Duang is so deeply in love that he'll forgive anything, and Qin likely knows it. I sincerely hope that Qin's love and his decision are sincere and true and that we will see a sweet queer love story in the remaining episodes.
Grandpa had his bank accounts frozen, so Pai actually doesn't have his own money, right?
Judging by the penultimate episode, Pai has his own money, which he wanted to use to build a shared house according to Tim's design and wanted to distance himself from his grandfather and the family business. So Pai has his own capital that has nothing to do with his grandfather or the family.
I admit that my feelings about this series, which initially were filled with euphoria, slowly turn to disappointment with each episode. I was so captivated at the beginning that I can't accept how the director/director "put this series down." The plot has become simply naive, childish, and not even funny, even if it was supposed to be a comedy. Mark and Junior are excellent actors, and it's a shame their talent wasn't utilized. Not only are they excellent actors, but they also look stunning together (I don't want to dwell on Mark's admiration for his beauty, who should star in the Thai version of the series "My Most Beautiful Man," LOL), and this naive narrative doesn't fulfill their potential. Pai was deceived by the man he fell in love with and trusted implicitly. No one will convince me that after that ruinous party that cast a shadow over the family, he would so easily forgive Tim and move in with him. LOL His grandfather disowned him, and Pai lost literally everything he worked so hard for. Not to mention he was cut off from everything he earned, and his grandfather excommunicated him from the family. Let's not forget that he was reviled by guests, reporters, and competitors. And yet, despite all this, he communicates with Tim? I think it's absolutely unrealistic because Pai has his own money and doesn't have to live in Tim's house. No one, not even the most infatuated, would ever forgive such a planned deception, even if it turned into love. It was initially a cold calculation. It might be forgivable if Tim had confessed to his infidelity before they both stood at the altar.
Besides, the pairing of You and North is unappealing to me. I don't know why, but these two guys don't seem right for each other. Maybe it's because I remember them from other shows with different partners and I can't convince myself otherwise.
I hope this series doesn't end with some drama like "going abroad to study and meeting by chance after 15 years when both have wives and three children." Please don't!
of course, the "hidden ad" for Calvin Klein shorts should be mentioned, great, especially the red one on Joss!
I like that the main characters are equal in the sense that neither of them is a loser tripping over their own two feet, and neither of them is heroic, flawless, and ready to save the other. This heteronormative concept so often used in Japanese dramas is simply irritating to me.
Here, it's not the case, and the two guys are equal. Both are masters of their craft, neither needs to save the other. What's more, both are handsome and simply attractive.
Zen definitely knows what he's talking about (in my opinion), and all he does is simply bait Ren, and when things get uncomfortable, he simply runs away. It's clear that this "night together" left quite a mark on his feelings for Ren, but since he wants to win the bet, he doesn't show it. As for Ren, it's clear that he's harbored love for Zen since school...
I don't know what this news about the hotel means or who the person Ren is "talking" to is; I'm betting on Ren's ex-lover, and maybe there will be some kind of confrontation with Zen?
I'm looking forward to the next episode.
Of course queer people have high suicide rates because we live in a society that is entirely too closed-minded and negative to them, but what does that have to do with, again, a fictional show? Besides, how is someone taking advantage of a younger, vulnerable person a way for him to "find help"? Come on now. If anything this is how young, hurt people find themselves in bad situations.
But, as I said, again, this is only a fictional show about fictional characters not someone's true life story. And I'm merely stating my opinion just like you are stating yours. And if you don't agree with me, so be it, arguing won't change my mind just like it won't change yours.
The black sheep of this whole group is definitely the manipulative Dean, and I wouldn't trust him for a second. I don't know why Jack is with him and fell for his acting for the second time, but I think we'll find out in the next episodes. Sure, love is blind and stupid, but it wasn't the first time, otherwise they wouldn't have broken up. I don't know who's in that car with Jack in the teaser for next episode, and I hope it's not Raffy. I thought Raffy finally realized that Romy was his best option and the only person he could trust, but I don't know if that was common sense or Raffy's true budding love for Romy.
One thing's for sure, that video was posted by Pete, the liar and cheater. I don't know what he was trying to achieve with that? Maybe he thought he could win Romy over? He thought Rom would think Raffy was still in love with Jack, and he was the one who posted that compromising video of Arnold and Dean.
In any case, the series is getting weaker with each episode, and the only couple I'm interested in is Raffy and Rom, while Arnold and Tua are probably their weakest appearance together. But that's just my opinion.
As for the characters, they fit the actors perfectly, or to put it another way, they're a great pairing, really. I'm very glad AuoBoom got one of the main roles in this series because they're one of my favorite BL acting couples.
What comes to mind after watching the last episode is that I don't really believe Arnold has romantic feelings for Tua. I think Arnold likes Tua, that he's very attached to him and somewhat obligated for what Tua did for him (getting him into acting), and he doesn't want to lose him as a friend, especially since they slept together. Arnold is a decent guy and I think he feels some kind of obligation to Tua.
I also don't believe Dean has these deep feelings for Jack. I think Dean is afraid of being alone and knows he'll never find a devoted lover and friend like Jack again, but at the same time, he's also tempted by other men because he likes people showing interest in him and likes to win and flirt.
I think that if Arnold had backed out at the last minute, in a flash of lightning, there in the woods under a tree, at night, drunk, Dean wouldn't have refused to have a quickie with Arnold.
As for Raffy: I don't know if he wants Jack or wants to play the lead in his plays...???? I think he'd like to take Dean's place, and as he said, he'd like to have what Dean has, including talent.
Raffy could simply choose Rome, who fell in love with him from the start, but Rome isn't his goal. I think he'll understand this sooner or later and come to his senses, most likely when Rome stops pursuing him. It's generally interesting to see what will come of this highly toxic situation.
The sole idea of this "balance" proposed by the tutor is sick. If he wanted balance, he should've found someone is own age and not a vulnerable high school student.
Also, even if the age of consent is 16, Akira was still a minor and not an adult, while his tutor was a grown adult. If the age of consent were 13 and Akira were, say, 14, while the tutor were an adult, would you still argue that's fine and consensual? A minor cannot give an adult their consent, end of story.
Lastly, it's more than okay to enjoy the show and have fun but at the same time to not agree with certain actions and choices the characters make. It's okay to enjoy a show that touches on taboo topics or touches on subjects like this but to still point out that these things are wrong and would be unacceptable in the real world. Enough people enjoy true crime podcasts while still believing, logically, that crime is bad. Art is meant to get us talking, to shine light on topics that often get hidden because they can make people feel uncomfortable, and that's what the show does. It shows something that happens to far too many young people and we can applaud it for it while still agreeing that it is wrong. One doesn't negate the other.
I also really like" Sammys"; I'm curious to see how the plot develops. I also like that the series has many comic moments, which balances the seriousness of the subject matter with its brutality.
Akira is a very intelligent man, perhaps to his own misfortune, who was perfectly aware of the impurity of this relationship, but Kanda was the only person who knew his secret, and the only person who was like him and became his support—his balance—without whom, at that time, who knows what might have happened to him.
Kanata, on the other hand, is just starting out in life, just growing up, and discovering himself and his queerness, which he likely didn't even know about until he met Akira.
I really like this series; it's different, deeper, and really well-acted. I'm enchanted by Akira's beauty; he's beautiful and delicate...
However, returning to the series, I liked episode 7 the least because it felt like a "time filler" that was allocated for this series. I don't understand why there was a complete rehash of the previous episode's ending? I would have liked to have spent it on some interaction between the main characters, on their conversations...
I'm hoping for a happy ending, because they're both in love, so love has to win.
It's a bit of egotistical abuse, and I definitely wouldn't tolerate it. If I were Duang, I would probably leave this battlefield and give Qin time to think about what he really wants.
However, Duang is so deeply in love that he'll forgive anything, and Qin likely knows it. I sincerely hope that Qin's love and his decision are sincere and true and that we will see a sweet queer love story in the remaining episodes.
I was so captivated at the beginning that I can't accept how the director/director "put this series down."
The plot has become simply naive, childish, and not even funny, even if it was supposed to be a comedy.
Mark and Junior are excellent actors, and it's a shame their talent wasn't utilized. Not only are they excellent actors, but they also look stunning together (I don't want to dwell on Mark's admiration for his beauty, who should star in the Thai version of the series "My Most Beautiful Man," LOL), and this naive narrative doesn't fulfill their potential. Pai was deceived by the man he fell in love with and trusted implicitly. No one will convince me that after that ruinous party that cast a shadow over the family, he would so easily forgive Tim and move in with him. LOL
His grandfather disowned him, and Pai lost literally everything he worked so hard for. Not to mention he was cut off from everything he earned, and his grandfather excommunicated him from the family. Let's not forget that he was reviled by guests, reporters, and competitors. And yet, despite all this, he communicates with Tim? I think it's absolutely unrealistic because Pai has his own money and doesn't have to live in Tim's house. No one, not even the most infatuated, would ever forgive such a planned deception, even if it turned into love. It was initially a cold calculation. It might be forgivable if Tim had confessed to his infidelity before they both stood at the altar.
Besides, the pairing of You and North is unappealing to me. I don't know why, but these two guys don't seem right for each other. Maybe it's because I remember them from other shows with different partners and I can't convince myself otherwise.