how sensitive both brothers are and how much they need the support of their bfs (who can stop me from generalizing…
It looked like the show's tourist sponsor wanted to advertise the hotel and beach with a restaurant that serves traditional Thai food. Phum intentionally opened the curtains on the window in the room once they got there so you could see the sea and see more clearly what the couple is doing on the bed.-:)
To me it looks like they/writers ran out of ideas for plot development and Phum/Peem are caught in a time trap and are going in circles. There is no development in their relationship other than Phum's declaration of love, which also seems to have not changed much.
What is interesting to me is that PP went to bed in the same clothes they wore during the trip and Phum didn't even take off his jacket... Later they went to dinner, took a walk by the sea and rode a horse wearing the same clothes....
This BL deserves a much higher rating. It is one of the few that escape from the BL narrative to step a bit into…
I noticed this too and wondered why A agreed to play these roles if he has problems with erotic scenes or just kissing? Or maybe the actors had a falling out after episode 2 and that's why A's discomfort in scenes with physical proximity is so visible.
I've watched this episode twice and I don't think it added anything to the series. If it wasn't there, no one would have noticed a time gap or gap in the plot. The only thing we learn from the scene where Yuki packs his things, which he supposedly left at Assami's, is that they must've spent some time together, more than we were shown. However, this feels illogical because there is nothing in their behavior that suggests that they have grown even a millimeter closer to each other, or that they have accepted each other, but rather gives the impression that the opposite is the case.
Thinking about it like that, I personally know absolutely nothing about the drama that the main couple is playing, nor about the drama in general, like what the plot is or anything. Both themes are emphasized but not brought to a point that has any meaning. The first episode seemed interesting and gave hope for an interesting potential plot, for romance, for romantic action, etc., but the second episode and the next ones didn't say much or really anything. Only the stay in hot springs and the introduction of another character into the drama added some spice to this somewhat boring dish. I am totally disappointed with the actors' performance (I know it's a Japanese drama), their lack of chemistry or anything with each other, the lack of action, the lack of everything a romantic story should contain. I don't mean erotic scenes here, because no one expects such scenes from Japanese dramas, but I was waiting for a story, for something poetic, and I didn't get it, and I think the last episode will be just as good as all the others, as in, just boring. The scene that just made me feel weird the most was the scene where Yuki lies in on his bed in his room (after a failed attempt at hooking up with Assami) and stretches out his hand dramatically toward his backpack where he has a keychain they bought together. What is this scene supposed to tell me or to add? What's the purpose of such overly theatrical scenes, which there were a number of, which in my eyes only served the purpose of padding runtime because the series doesn't seem to have anything interesting to say.
The main couple hasn't had even one proper conversation, their behavior, even when just the two of them eating, was uncomfortable and felt like there was a lot of distance between them. Although the idea was that while they're together they're supposed to play like they are the characters in their drama, it was a big nothing.
Something moved me to refresh my memories of this series and I regret that choice. I have to admit I feel embarrassed by both the plot and the acting prowess of the leads. I understand that the main point of the series is BL but in no second did I ever feel like the main characters had any kind of romantic feelings for each other. Outside of them fitting together visually, since they are tall and nice to look at, there is nothing between them, no chemistry or attraction or anything.
This is one of the worst BLs I've so far seen. I don't recommend watching it. I also feel like the filming and production of this series didn't cost more than $5.
We still haven't moved forward, on the contrary. I don't know, I hope the creators of the series are preparing us for a big BOOM!!! .....or are we going to be lulled to sleep like this until the end? I know it's very Japanese, but I think I expected something different from this series (it started so promisingly)... I'm still waiting.
nah fr, if Jaejun looked at Jihan like that in previous volumes we would all be gushing over how lovely it is,…
I'm talking about volume 3, and the trip, how during that time at the woods JH seemed very interested in D and paid a lot of attention to him, and JJ had no choice but to spend time with others. Generally a weird atmosphere was there because it lacked a clear sign that JJ and JH are a couple.
Furthermore, I simply wanted to participate in conversation in a nice way, so there's no need to immediately be so harsh. Isn't this supposed to be fun?
You’re wrong about the homosexuality in Korea. I don’t know from where you get your informations but there…
Perhaps you should do your research better then because if anyone is spreading fake information then it's you. In Korea, during your military service, if you are found of having same sex relations, you will go to jail for two years. Idol singer HOLLAND was beat up on the street just walking with his manager simply because the public knows he is an openly gay singer. A gay idol group (who are independent because no label wants to sign them, just like it is the case with HOLLAND) only performs in masks completely disguising their identity because they know that otherwise they would not be able to live normally without being stalked and treated horrendously for their sexual identity. Korea is many things but it certainly is not a place welcoming or friendly toward queer people. Like Pride being pushed to the outskirts of Seoul so that their original spot within the city could instead be taken up by a christian festival, though lawmakers would've preferred to cancel it altogether. Besides just because lawmakers introduce bills or ideas for bills, that doesn't in any way mean that the public will respect that. Look at the US where same sex marriage is legal and yet queer people face severe discrimination in all areas of their lives in certain States and areas. Let go of some kind of fantastical vision of Korea because it isn't so. Korea is generally against queer people, it is against feminism and women's rights, and looking at the opinions of their current president and the men of Korea, none of this will change any time soon.
...I don't know how to put it; It's hard to say that I liked the series, because the issues discussed in it and the fact that you can supposedly move past them and return to normality and even fall in love, I don't think you can like it..... Since I have been a fan of Korean idols for many years, during my time in fandom I tried to get to know the culture of this country, patterns of social constructs and typical behavior. Therefore, it should be emphasized that Koreans are a highly homophobic society and harbor a lot of hatred in general. Bullying, stalking and harassment in schools are a daily occurrence and have reached levels incomparable to other societies. The issue of friendship in Korea is also a topic in itself. It's not easy to make friends when everywhere, in literally every place, everyone is competing with each other and racing to achieve the best. Parents do not have love in themselves, but they have very high expectations for their children and the only goal in front of their eyes is SUCCESS! As for love of the same sex, it is officially almost impossible in Korea and you can be beaten with impunity or even end up in prison for showing up on the street with your same sex lover. Being LGBTQ+ is generally unacceptable and widely combated. As for the series; the idea itself is very cool, the drama is well done and the characters are well chosen. Taey, with his internal problems with self-harm and aggression, undergoes an internal crisis in these eight episodes, related to the loss of his brother, but also to the fact that he realizes his feelings for a person of the same sex and cannot accept them, but at the same time cannot resist them. I've read a lot of comments here and I have the impression that most of them are comments from people who are not adults, as well as people who have never had any real contact with queer people and have a cinematic and unrealistic vision of this issue. I don't want to spoil the series, but it's really worth watching and thinking about the real vision of BL in homophobic circles...... I don't know if it's true or just a rumor from TikTok, but I heard that the actor who played Taey categorically stated that he will never act in BL again and that he has a girlfriend. (?) This made me think that he probably got a lot of hate from fans for playing this role. I hope it's just a rumor.
Yet another episode that doesn't add anything to the story. It even more showed how there is no chemistry between the actors where the only expression the smaller actor has is making big eyes and the there one is saying dry, emotionless things. The dialogues are just so badly written and like I said in other comments, the actors were simply chosen wrong for these roles. The stereotypical thing of the tall guy finding himself a wife during uni while the shorter one, as his friend, is supposed to help him with that or even find her for him. I can imagine where the show is going so I'm sure eventually they'll somehow become a couple but the way there is very boring. And badly acted. Maybe if the cast were different and better suited for their roles, and the actors had any kind of fire or passion, then maybe the show would work better or be more interesting to watch. It feels like room temperature unseasoned food or soup.
maybe the fact that Joe now no longer look like that is good. he can never be seen as Tong's stand-in like that.
Despite everything something about his new body must remind Ming of Joe (the original version), remember the elevator moment, so I'm wondering if Ming will somehow figure out that it's Joe or if he'll fall in love with him anew (because of whatever made him think of Joe)?
The last episode was okay, but am still uninterested and bored with these boys. Their relationship has gone nowhere.…
I agree with your opinion. The series is boring and kind of blind, we don't know what the writers are trying to tell us. Furthermore, the main characters are very poorly chosen and there is no chemistry between them or whatever you call it. This smaller boy keeps his eyes wide and surprised and I don't know if he doesn't understand or is wondering how he got where he is. This big boy, on the other hand, claims to love the little boy, but there is no sign of attraction or romance in his words and gestures. uh...
Ming is waiting for Joe, but as far as I know he is not looking for him, but in return has become an actor and…
Yes, I forgot, anger actually said it. Maybe the fact that Joe's body hasn't been found gives Ming hope that Joe is still alive. Now the question is: Where is Joe's body? Perhaps the two Joes have swapped bodies and in what form will Joe return to Ming? Because it's obvious that he will return to Ming... at least I think so.
Ming is waiting for Joe, but as far as I know he is not looking for him, but in return has become an actor and…
From what I understood, Joe was not wanted by anyone at all and the company that engaged him did not disclose anything about his death. Joe had no family or anyone who would ask about him, and no one knew that Joe had accepted the job. Joe's accident was concealed and it remained so. I just don't know why Ming didn't look for Joe, because if he had, he would have found out that Joe had an accident and that he had accepted a dangerous job. Similarly, Wutt could deduce that Joe took the job because Joe had clearly told him that he would work for the company because there was nothing else left for him.
tbh they have more natural chemistry that you can't see for some reason than some of these Thai BL pairings
I am a big fan of Japanese films, cinematography and art in general and unfortunately in my personal opinion this drama is not a success because in my opinion the actors don't match and there is no chemistry between them. I don't think they have any basis for romance or anything like that and if one person has a crush on another then their interactions seem rather awkward to me and not even remotely romantic then that's a fiasco. The actors who were cast were simply not fitting which makes the series boring. However, this is just my personal feeling and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
What interests me most is how Joe's soul will find the real Joe again, and if that'll happen at all. Will Joe stay in someone else's body and only Ming will recognize him? I'm looking forward to the development of events and how the writers will develop their roles. We know that Joe is now a completely different person visually because he lives in a body that is not his own. Will it stay that way or will there be some sort of soul exchange between the real Joe and the owner of Joe's current body? Who is this character anyway and why did Joe's soul choose him? So where is the soul of the other Joe? Did the souls make a mistake and accidentally switch bodies when both people experienced being in a coma at the same time? Will Joe find his body or will the two Joes meet and exchange bodies? Even if Ming is waiting for Joe, the person who would return to him now is not the person Ming is waiting for. The current Joe doesn't look much like Tong, nor is he his stand-in.
before watching each episode, i have to brace myself. every week i get my heart broken for Joe. i know Ming did…
Ming is waiting for Joe, but as far as I know he is not looking for him, but in return has become an actor and model himself. Ming has no friends and perhaps all he can do is “wait for Joe” now that Tong has become unavailable and his sister is busy with her own life.
Episode 4, just WOW, what an episode. I LOVED how Joe stood up for himself and left Ming and I also LOVED Sol…
You're right, Ming fell in love with Joe "on the side", but he didn't want to admit it (he wanted power over Joe) and still believed that Tong was the one he loves. However, I don't know if it was really love for Joe that drove Ming to do all these shameful acts, or if it was fear of being alone. He knew that Tong had already become completely inaccessible to him (due to his marriage to his sister) and Joe was the only person he had left. If Ming lost Joe, he would be left alone because he had no friends and the only person he could trust (his sisters) was to start her own family with the object of his long-term feelings. So Ming clung to Joe, but I don't know if it was truly out of love or out of fear and the wounded pride of the narcissist he undoubtedly is. I'm really excited to see where the next episode takes us, and I admit that I would like to see Joe and Sol together, but I know that's not the direction the series is going.
Japan is very specific and Japanese TV series and movies are not for everyone. I think that you need to understand a little and get to know the mentality of the Japanese, their values and rules, as well as their approach to LGBTQ community issues. Serie promised to be very interesting, but it seemed to be lost in time, but I'm not losing hope and I keep watching.
What is interesting to me is that PP went to bed in the same clothes they wore during the trip and Phum didn't even take off his jacket... Later they went to dinner, took a walk by the sea and rode a horse wearing the same clothes....
Thinking about it like that, I personally know absolutely nothing about the drama that the main couple is playing, nor about the drama in general, like what the plot is or anything. Both themes are emphasized but not brought to a point that has any meaning.
The first episode seemed interesting and gave hope for an interesting potential plot, for romance, for romantic action, etc., but the second episode and the next ones didn't say much or really anything. Only the stay in hot springs and the introduction of another character into the drama added some spice to this somewhat boring dish.
I am totally disappointed with the actors' performance (I know it's a Japanese drama), their lack of chemistry or anything with each other, the lack of action, the lack of everything a romantic story should contain. I don't mean erotic scenes here, because no one expects such scenes from Japanese dramas, but I was waiting for a story, for something poetic, and I didn't get it, and I think the last episode will be just as good as all the others, as in, just boring.
The scene that just made me feel weird the most was the scene where Yuki lies in on his bed in his room (after a failed attempt at hooking up with Assami) and stretches out his hand dramatically toward his backpack where he has a keychain they bought together. What is this scene supposed to tell me or to add? What's the purpose of such overly theatrical scenes, which there were a number of, which in my eyes only served the purpose of padding runtime because the series doesn't seem to have anything interesting to say.
The main couple hasn't had even one proper conversation, their behavior, even when just the two of them eating, was uncomfortable and felt like there was a lot of distance between them. Although the idea was that while they're together they're supposed to play like they are the characters in their drama, it was a big nothing.
This is one of the worst BLs I've so far seen. I don't recommend watching it. I also feel like the filming and production of this series didn't cost more than $5.
Furthermore, I simply wanted to participate in conversation in a nice way, so there's no need to immediately be so harsh. Isn't this supposed to be fun?
Let go of some kind of fantastical vision of Korea because it isn't so. Korea is generally against queer people, it is against feminism and women's rights, and looking at the opinions of their current president and the men of Korea, none of this will change any time soon.
Since I have been a fan of Korean idols for many years, during my time in fandom I tried to get to know the culture of this country, patterns of social constructs and typical behavior. Therefore, it should be emphasized that Koreans are a highly homophobic society and harbor a lot of hatred in general. Bullying, stalking and harassment in schools are a daily occurrence and have reached levels incomparable to other societies. The issue of friendship in Korea is also a topic in itself. It's not easy to make friends when everywhere, in literally every place, everyone is competing with each other and racing to achieve the best. Parents do not have love in themselves, but they have very high expectations for their children and the only goal in front of their eyes is SUCCESS!
As for love of the same sex, it is officially almost impossible in Korea and you can be beaten with impunity or even end up in prison for showing up on the street with your same sex lover. Being LGBTQ+ is generally unacceptable and widely combated.
As for the series; the idea itself is very cool, the drama is well done and the characters are well chosen. Taey, with his internal problems with self-harm and aggression, undergoes an internal crisis in these eight episodes, related to the loss of his brother, but also to the fact that he realizes his feelings for a person of the same sex and cannot accept them, but at the same time cannot resist them.
I've read a lot of comments here and I have the impression that most of them are comments from people who are not adults, as well as people who have never had any real contact with queer people and have a cinematic and unrealistic vision of this issue.
I don't want to spoil the series, but it's really worth watching and thinking about the real vision of BL in homophobic circles......
I don't know if it's true or just a rumor from TikTok, but I heard that the actor who played Taey categorically stated that he will never act in BL again and that he has a girlfriend. (?)
This made me think that he probably got a lot of hate from fans for playing this role. I hope it's just a rumor.
I'm really excited to see where the next episode takes us, and I admit that I would like to see Joe and Sol together, but I know that's not the direction the series is going.
Serie promised to be very interesting, but it seemed to be lost in time, but I'm not losing hope and I keep watching.