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oh yeah, some plot changes are abysmal to the point that they significantly affect future development of characters and plot. One of the changes even left me baffled, as by introducing that single element so early on, they essentially removed an entire arc spanning at least 50 chapters. Idk how they plan to go about it in subsequent films since in this film the mc already received the "reward" from that future arc, which is one of the significant twists/plot point in that arc. This is the main reason, among other changes, why I said it's a 1/10 adaptation

Oh don't get me wrong, fans are definitely review bombing this film without even seeing the movie. But having already watched it, I don't think everything was unjustified. If you look at it as an adaptation its a 1/10 for sure... As a normal film maybe around 3-4/10 depending on how much you can piece things together as the plot can get confusing. Its really weird, idk if they made the film with the assumption that most have read the novel since a lot of details are glossed over (the world, power system, character relationship), so if your a viewer who hasn't read the novel and did not pay that much attention plot becomes complicated and visual/cinematography didn't feel like it was done with a $21 million budget ( this is according to the people I went with who has no idea about the novel)

Well good (?) newd for you. The reviews from critics who were part of early reviews pretty much hvae the same sentiment. If i were to summarize everything into one sentence "The hype did not meet it's expectation"

Here a link if u wanna read it yourself: https://x.com/AnonAuthor_K/status/1945509806778753303

I had some doubt if it were really true since I had no really good way to confirm the sources but after watching the film myself, pretty much guaranteed that these reviews are real.

It's hard to gauge the actual reviews from korean netizens since most are in naver which you need a korean number to access. There's "Theqoo" and "Pannchoa" which are public forums you can access but its a cesspool imo. The box office can kinda gives us a general idea that the word of mouth reception for the film is not great, as it is continuing to decline in number which are now in the low 50k viewership a day even with the coupon from the goverment which is about a 40%-60% discount.

never said it didn't. Your the one commenting "No one claimed it was box office record-breaker"

Ey let me have fun. It just takes me a minute at most to write these "essays". You might wann reevaluate the meaning fo the words you use. Milestone, yes. Succes on the otherhand.... its the opposite of what happening though. "modest success" indicate that it still doing well that it can at least break-even, but it can't even do that. For the record breaking part... you sure no one, really? cuz i see at least two here commenting how "record-breaking" the numbers are.

Edit: Oh w8 ur actually one of the people commenting its "breaking record". What an irony, so now there's at least 3 people.

w8 you mean the kpop fandom.. the same fandom who constantly send death threats online? The same fandom who caused multiple idols to suicide cuz of cyberbullying? The same fandom who is infamous for stalking their their idols and going into their dorms/hotels/house? The same fandom who caused idols to make a letter or video of themselves apologizing because they did something a normal person would do? Yeah review bombing is TOTALLY more toxic

mate its clearly a sarcastic. Its making fun of u guys for making such a big deal out of 180k viewership. Why are you so pressed as if its a jab against ur country's filmmaking when its just making fun of you guys for raving about the numbers as if its good

w8 it's actually true, it got dethroned after just 5 days of being out by a f1. I actually thought it would at least be a week. LMAO
https://imgur.com/a/ITMjTXl

mate why are you following the estimate when it was announced. There's literally a definitive reported budget already, "wouldn't be surprised if the real budget is $30 billion" mate the REAL budget is already there for u to search within 10 sec. Like seriously what is the logic behind that??? "Oh I see that the budget of the movie is confirmed to be X amount but fck that I will believe the early estimates BY MEDIA OUTLETS when nothing was confirmed by the production company and make my own estimates"...... Like huhhhhhh

w8 are u talking about the right film? Space sweepers had $24 billion won budget, the one starring song joong-ki & kim tae-ri. you do realize that the space ships, the space, guns, hell even some background characters and many more are all cgi.... its literally heavily reliant on cgi ,most estimates it 80% at the low end and 90% at the highest of the scenes had cgi. There's barely any location on the film that doesn't have cgi on it. You can see the behind the scenes of the film and realize that there's barely any practical effect used. Also that doesn't change the fact that orv cgi was disappointing and doesn't justify the budget it got

space sweepers definitely was more challenging for a vfx team as at least 80% of the film is shot with cgi background/effect. Are you talking about the final scene of orv? cuz that's the only part of it that definitely that's predominantly cgi but man that shit did not look good. I also found some fight specifically with monsters jarring as the actors' movement would suddenly speed up just to catch up with the monster movements/effects

I agree there are so many more movie worse than this but I disagree with the cgi. I watch it and all of the people i went with agreed that the cgi wasn't great and most of the cgi backgrounds weren't pleasing to the eyes. Reviews from critics backs this up. 30 billion won isn't much compared to other hollywood films but a lot of korean films have shown a much much better cgi than this (Space Sweepers; Along with Gods etc). If you compare it with those films which btw had lower budgets and was made years ago, it clear that they barely allocated a budget for the vfx team

He clearly read my long ass message but won't write a proper reply cuz he can't think of any counter-argument and just said he won't read it as a cope out. It's just confirmation bias atp and won't accept anything that doesn't conform with their view

ah yes, a minute of reading u can't do but you search for data everyday for this shit. Seems appropriate. cheers.

Edit: Oh, ur a Jisoo fan. That checks out

Edit 2: just to clarify I am not making fun of all Jisoo fan. Just for the type that u guys are. There are two type of Jisoo fans i am seeing. 1: Those who accepted this is shit and are boycotting it; and 2: Those who want everybody to like this film just cuz their fave is part of it and can't accept that their fave is part of a shitty project. Either way don't worry, ur fave has already been paid. This movie flopping won't affect her :). Also not like its entirely the cast fault when the script is shit

i know i am just making a generalization with another korean film, which again wasn't as anticipated and only blew up with word of mouth. Compare that to ORV which is the opposite, its anticipated but even korean netizen are already badmouthing it which MIGHT mean that in the following weeks this wouldn't see an increase in viewership. The main reason I compared the two is because they had a very similar opening admission number and the only difference is 12:12 blew up during the weekend showings unlike ORV. In regards to ur argument about international sales, that might have an effect but remember that the main target audience of the film is korea, not to mention that majority of international fans won't be seeing this film. There might be people who are fans of the actors and would see it just to "support" but that won't really matter when u think about it from the perspective of the production company. They are already receiving huge backlash both internationally and domestically. It would be hard to convince executive and sponsor to greenlit a sequel unless it gains at least a gross profit of 2x the budget as the production company would only receive 50%-60% of the revenue. Also in regards to merchandise, it really doesn't matter, this isn't an IP that would sell that much when it comes to merchandise. You don't see a Train to busan merchandise or a parasite merchandise even though those are successful. Majority of the film that can make a profit off of merchandise are children's movies, movie merchandise are popular in hollywood movies and not as much when it comes to korean movies. For streaming rights, when would it come out? like a year later after every reviews has been out and general public has a grasp on how good/bad the movie is?

I mean u guys are the one here commenting on every single stat/news of the movie as if it's anything to rave about without actually knowing what the numbers indicate which, btw is showing that if this continues, the movie won't make a profit, especially if the weekend profits can't even break 300k admissions per day. To compare another Korean film "12.12: The Day" with a slightly lower budget than ORV LA, and with half the hype and marketing, had over 600k during the weekend and consistent 200k-300k admissions on weekdays. Kinda sad that F1 movie which is a foreign film and has been out for a month, has only 40k (saturday) and 20k(sunday) admissions less than ORV when its such an anticipated film

congrats its at about 7-8% of the gross to break-even and probably at 5-6% if we include the marketing budget (since you know, marketing is not part of the of the $21 mil production budget and is on average at least $5 mil). For a high-profile film, it's not doing badly *being sarcastic here btw*

Being #1 doesnt really mean that much when ur competition had been in cinemas for weeks now (not to mention being a foreign film). 2nd day of screening has seen a significant drop in viewership. They need twice the amount of their first screening EVERYDAY to break-even

As a novel fan you'll be disappointed. As somebody who hasn't read the novel, you'll be lost since a lot of details are glossed over. Sponsor, What's that? ...Constellation, Stream, What's that? ....Oh cool Heewon seems to have some type of power... Where did she get that, is she special?... What skills does kdj have that he is able to survive? --- oh none? yep sounds valid.

all in all is not an adaptation, more like a generic sci-fi post-apocalyptic movie that borrows the names from the novel. Also imma just say this... the cgi and editing sucks and sometimes jarring as people seems to just move faster for some reason as to catch up with the cgi effects

uhmmmmmmm, at least there's one person excited