You didn't watch the drama, why are you talking about the ending that we haven't even watched on WeTV or iQIYI?
I did use the spoiler tag when I discussed the ending of this drama.
Surely it is not a spoiler to say that people in China are unhappy about a show that was rated 3.2 on Douban before the finale aired, and that is currently at 3.0.
I'm sorry iQIYI and WeTV disrespected the international viewers of this drama and I understand your frustration, but I didn't do anything wrong.
Edited to add - this drama is a commercial and critical flop, viewership is low, sponsorships were lost and not only did it not make profit, but it failed to recoup the original investment. Someone will have to pay the price and I'm glad it will not be the cast.
You didn't watch the drama, why are you talking about the ending that we haven't even watched on WeTV or iQIYI?
Because I read about it on weibo? Even though I dropped the tv show, I still had a sliver of hope that things would turn around and if the ending was satisfactory, I would have picked it back up.
I really like LYR, he was the reason I watched PA before Rebirth started airing, but I had misgivings about the director... which were totally confirmed, by the way.
"Yuwen Yue should stay in the lake" - my favourite Douban comment :).
I don't have douban, but my favourite comment on weibo is "If Lü Haojiji can still find work, the winter in the Chinese entertainment industry is still not cold enough."
People on weibo are really unhappy with the ending and with the show in general (since the ending puts the whole drama into perspective)... thankfully all their anger is directed at the persons who deserve it - the director, the screenwriter and the producer.
Sure. Whatever makes you happy. I thought I'll never cry again like I did when I watched the end of Till The End…
In the TTEOM novel, TTJ gets resurrected after 1000 years, the show ends after 500 years, so we are midway through the waiting period. I'm not sure if it's canon or not, but I think he will become a god, just like the king in the story, who sacrificed himself to save the dove.
Sure. Whatever makes you happy. I thought I'll never cry again like I did when I watched the end of Till The End…
Goodby My Princess is very good and it's not an angst fest.
I conside Till The End Of The Moon to have a happy-ish ending? Tantai Jin is recovering in the heart scale that Li Susu has in her hand.
There are good dramas that end happily, and I usually stick to those.
I mentioned in a previous comment that I hate this director, he likes going for sad or inappropriate ending when there is no need. The Double novel had a happy ending, in the drama it is implied WXY will get his head chopped off by the invading army, in PA novel it's a happy ending for the main couple. He pissed me off with the ending of Generation to Generation earlier this year.
People discussing the ending on weibo seem to think it's sad.
Check my comment below, I pasted an analysis of the ending I found on weibo. Either way, people are not happy, the douban rating went from 3.2 to 3 after the finale aired. I don't have douban, so I cannot check if these events are related or not.
Found this analysis of the ending on Weibo. Can someone who has watched the last 2 episodes please confirm if…
"Zhuge Yue died in episode 39.
The scene in the final episode where he saves Chu Qiao from the fire is Chu Qiao's dying fantasy of Zhuge Yue. Therefore, Chu Qiao also dies.
Zhuge Yue and Chu Qiao having a son and a daughter, and Yan Xun taking Helian to celebrate the New Year, are all Yan Xun's fantasies.
Everything at the end is also Yan Xun's dying fantasy. He is the only one who truly survived. He fantasized about an elderly Zhuge Yue as king of the Western Alliance, about the two of them confronting each other again at the frozen lake, and about everyone having different happy endings. He fantasized about Zhuge Yue growing old like him, coming to the frozen lake to accompany him on his final journey. I think Yan Xun died at this moment.
Throughout his long life, Yan Xun wrote many letters to Zhuge Yue. He never sent a single one, not because he was shy, but because no one could receive them—Zhuge Yue was already dead. It's strange that after half a lifetime of infatuation with Chu Qiao, Yan Xun spent the rest of his life mourning Zhuge Yue. Zhuge Yue had been in his heart for many years: you can tell by how many letters he wrote to Zhuge Yue. He seemed to genuinely want this rival to live, to grow old like him. Even in his final moments, Chu Qiao was merely one of the many characters in his imagination, just like Li Ce and Chun'er, or even Eleven; the Chu Qiao in his imagination was only Zhuge Yue's lover, never alone in any particular situation. Conversely, Yan Xun felt his end was near when he saw Zhuge Yue, so he personally burned all the letters he had written to Zhuge Yue; then, carrying his likeness, he went to the frozen lake and died.
Don't ask me why this happened. That's what I saw."
Yall know I wanted to be able to defend this drama since they announced the cast and director, but yall other…
I dropped this show at about episode 10, but kept an eye on this comment section hoping they will manage to pull it through. I really like LYR and he was the reason I watched PA in the first place.
I wasn't very fond of the director since he messed up the ending in The Double. WXY putting the jade pendant in his mouth before facing the enemy army by himself is shorthand for preparing to have his head cut off, and in the reunion sequence you see they are still young, but the tree they planted when they got married is old so the implication is they reunited in death. The fact that the director caved to public outrage and shot a special episode does not change the initial ending, especially since it is not available in the drama package and the common viewer is not aware of its existence.
I gave him another chance with Generation to Generation - the show was watchable until the last episodes and then it became infuriating due to multiple attempts to mislead the audience that the ML was dead... and the FL decided to bury the ashes of the villain next to her aunt's ashes... her aunt was the great heroine of the previous generation and had died to save everyone, while the villain killed all their remaining friends. Good thing she didn't have a corpse that could turn in her grave!
And then I saw that in Rebirth the storytelling I liked so much in PA was nowhere to be seen, that the characters have lost all the nuances they had and became 2d and a lot less intelligent, and that the drama relied on visuals to make things seem cool without any consideration to logic (the body pyramid, the armour underneath the wedding robes, YX waiting until he was in the palace before rebelling, where the security would have been a lot tighter etc). Instead of being able to immerse in the story, these small things kept annoying me and at one point they accumulated so much that I could not continue watching the drama.
So, to sum up, I will be avoiding this director and his projects like the plague!
Surely it is not a spoiler to say that people in China are unhappy about a show that was rated 3.2 on Douban before the finale aired, and that is currently at 3.0.
I'm sorry iQIYI and WeTV disrespected the international viewers of this drama and I understand your frustration, but I didn't do anything wrong.
Edited to add - this drama is a commercial and critical flop, viewership is low, sponsorships were lost and not only did it not make profit, but it failed to recoup the original investment. Someone will have to pay the price and I'm glad it will not be the cast.
Assistant Director: Zhang Yan Jie
Screenwriter: Wei Yi
Producer: Zhang Meng
Source: Dramawiki
I really like LYR, he was the reason I watched PA before Rebirth started airing, but I had misgivings about the director... which were totally confirmed, by the way.
I conside Till The End Of The Moon to have a happy-ish ending? Tantai Jin is recovering in the heart scale that Li Susu has in her hand.
There are good dramas that end happily, and I usually stick to those.
I mentioned in a previous comment that I hate this director, he likes going for sad or inappropriate ending when there is no need.
The Double novel had a happy ending, in the drama it is implied WXY will get his head chopped off by the invading army, in PA novel it's a happy ending for the main couple. He pissed me off with the ending of Generation to Generation earlier this year.
Either way, people are not happy, the douban rating went from 3.2 to 3 after the finale aired. I don't have douban, so I cannot check if these events are related or not.
The scene in the final episode where he saves Chu Qiao from the fire is Chu Qiao's dying fantasy of Zhuge Yue. Therefore, Chu Qiao also dies.
Zhuge Yue and Chu Qiao having a son and a daughter, and Yan Xun taking Helian to celebrate the New Year, are all Yan Xun's fantasies.
Everything at the end is also Yan Xun's dying fantasy. He is the only one who truly survived. He fantasized about an elderly Zhuge Yue as king of the Western Alliance, about the two of them confronting each other again at the frozen lake, and about everyone having different happy endings. He fantasized about Zhuge Yue growing old like him, coming to the frozen lake to accompany him on his final journey. I think Yan Xun died at this moment.
Throughout his long life, Yan Xun wrote many letters to Zhuge Yue. He never sent a single one, not because he was shy, but because no one could receive them—Zhuge Yue was already dead. It's strange that after half a lifetime of infatuation with Chu Qiao, Yan Xun spent the rest of his life mourning Zhuge Yue. Zhuge Yue had been in his heart for many years: you can tell by how many letters he wrote to Zhuge Yue. He seemed to genuinely want this rival to live, to grow old like him. Even in his final moments, Chu Qiao was merely one of the many characters in his imagination, just like Li Ce and Chun'er, or even Eleven; the Chu Qiao in his imagination was only Zhuge Yue's lover, never alone in any particular situation. Conversely, Yan Xun felt his end was near when he saw Zhuge Yue, so he personally burned all the letters he had written to Zhuge Yue; then, carrying his likeness, he went to the frozen lake and died.
Don't ask me why this happened. That's what I saw."
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5291010068318592
I wasn't very fond of the director since he messed up the ending in The Double. WXY putting the jade pendant in his mouth before facing the enemy army by himself is shorthand for preparing to have his head cut off, and in the reunion sequence you see they are still young, but the tree they planted when they got married is old so the implication is they reunited in death. The fact that the director caved to public outrage and shot a special episode does not change the initial ending, especially since it is not available in the drama package and the common viewer is not aware of its existence.
I gave him another chance with Generation to Generation - the show was watchable until the last episodes and then it became infuriating due to multiple attempts to mislead the audience that the ML was dead... and the FL decided to bury the ashes of the villain next to her aunt's ashes... her aunt was the great heroine of the previous generation and had died to save everyone, while the villain killed all their remaining friends. Good thing she didn't have a corpse that could turn in her grave!
And then I saw that in Rebirth the storytelling I liked so much in PA was nowhere to be seen, that the characters have lost all the nuances they had and became 2d and a lot less intelligent, and that the drama relied on visuals to make things seem cool without any consideration to logic (the body pyramid, the armour underneath the wedding robes, YX waiting until he was in the palace before rebelling, where the security would have been a lot tighter etc). Instead of being able to immerse in the story, these small things kept annoying me and at one point they accumulated so much that I could not continue watching the drama.
So, to sum up, I will be avoiding this director and his projects like the plague!