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supper curious how this will turn out! The trailer is quite different to Stranger s1 and s2. It is much more humours while still having the dark/eery cinematography. Definitely gonna be interesting how this will turn out.

absolutely agreed! I miss OCN so darn much......
Heck thanks to OCN we had at least one crime/thriller drama ever so often but since it stopped producing drama series.....it has completely vanished.

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yeah arthouse style is either making people love it or hate it. I did actually enjoy it but the beginning was a bit too stretched and yeah there were some aspects less well developed, I agree.
I also agree with Mouse. Mouse was problematic in many ways. But man.......I'd even be happy with another Mouse if they would just produce more crime-thriller dramas but those have gone extinct in korean dramaland.

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Qin Hao is back in Light ON !!!!!!

I agree. Also "The Bad Kids" follows into this. "Burning Ice", "The Long Night" and "The bad Kids" are all written by the same author, and the main character is in all three the same one. however, each drama has a different version of this character. so while they are connected, they are not truly.

the novel is 14 years old .its not that old XD but yeah I get what you mean.
Have you read the book? if you did, what do you say to the changes? I do like some but tbh I wish they'd have kept the female detective. I did like the pairing of them solving cases together. Plus it would have been a good build up for a possible sequel. so kinda bummed there but welp.

fun story is though that the original story this is adapted from has a romance story. There is a couple that is hinted here but it stays with hinted. I do kinda get why they probably do it but I do think it would have benefited the drama more if they had dug deeper into that and kept more towards the source .

Burning Ice (Chinese drama)
Burning River (Chinese drama)
Trinity of Shadows (Taiwanese drama)

Somebody (korean) (but this is arthouse, so if you liked "The Frog" then you may like this too but arthouse is tricky, you gotta be in into psychological/artistic themes, if you are this is an amazing thriller)

and if you dont mind Western productions try some Nordic Noir series like eg. Chestnut Man, Bron/The Bridge, Bullets, Darkness: Those who kill, Codename: Annika, or also good are McMafia, Dear Child, The Thaw/Odwilz ....... Lol for. thrillers you can always drop me a DM. I have a big list ready :) we will find something for you

ohhh!!!!!! you could be absolutely right!
I do think he is some secretly rich/powerful person's kid but what you said would totally make sense! Really good thinking!

lol there are couple interviews of the cast on yt. they always pair Shin Minah up with Kim Young-dae and Han Ji-hyun with Bok Gyu-hyun
so our main couple + the writer girl and CEO.
plus writer girl and CEO are also the ones who the spin-off is about.

sure. I can recommend you any movie written by Koreeda Hirokazu (eg. "Nobody knows", "Like Father, Like Son", "Shoplifters", "Monster"), The Village and Forgiven Children.

hm no actually Japanese movies are often really really amazing. Especially with these more arthouse/noir type of genres. So I wouldn't rule it out that they will do an amazing job.

For some reasons there seems to always be a lot of backlash for dramas that are daring and not following the typical "happy-go-lucky" route. Queen Woo is a political drama. It is not filled with cliche scenes, nor will it please the romantic-audience. It is definitely an odd one out of normal kdrama productions but it is so very very refreshing and needed.
Will it be forgotten the moment it finishes airing like other controversial productions (eg Somebody)? Probably. But honestly there is also a group that truly enjoys the drama and that considers it a well done production.

agreed. also serious roles/dramas. I miss the serious dramas a lot. The "happy-go-lucky" filled with rom-com moments are nice ever so often but not constantly. This drama is truly a nice change.

yeah the drama gets better and better the more episodes pass. Kinda think Skandi noir (eg Chestnut Man or Bron) is a tad bit more dark and gruesome but I definitely get the connection. I'd actually recommend you to check out Mouse, Beyond Evil and King of Pigs. Those are also fulfilling your criteria as well but are a tad bit more going into the Skandi direction.

I'm sooooo super curious how that will work out! Like admiring someone for their work and then being confronted with them being in a relationship with someone you care for a lot? That can be quite different. Also it will be interesting to see how the CEO goes from disapproving of all females to falling for the sister of his subordinate.
So defo an interesting storyline!

the thing is that the 2nd ml is not the secretary but the boss and Yeo's character will falls for the boss, not the secretary. So there is a twist coming up where they will be confronted with each other. Maybe it is gonna be an enemy to lovers thing or something else. But it is not the secretary that will be the love interest for her ;)

yeah but he is present as flashbacks in all 4 episodes that are out for now. And honestly? I think this is his best acting he's ever done so far. Truly, I did not recognise him at all. Absolutely amazing job done.