"I spent my whole life giving up and letting go because I wasn't brave enough. Hwang Hee Tae is the first person that I bravely choose. Even if there are consequences, it's still the decision that I made." - Kim Myung Hee.
Okay yall. I need help. So I started watching mouse since it was getting so much hype. I was torn between what…
Mouse is indeed predictable to some degree, but it's a fast-paced drama. Beyond Evil is such a slow burn drama that makes me yarn at the beginning. I see no thrill or suspense that hyped me up, but I'm only at episode 4. Hesitant to continue. As each episode continues, Mouse reveals bit by bit on the supposed killer so when certain someone's identity was exposed, everyone already expected it to be. It's not really a "jaw-dropping" reveal. They are more focused on the details/plots surrounding the reveal rather than the reveal itself.
There's still one episode left but if you want spoilers here it goes...
As you already know, Ba Reum knew about his identity as a psychopath gene and Seo Jun's son. Become emotional, Ba Reum tried to jump off the building with a written note that Yo Han was innocent and he was the serial killer. At the same time, Chi Kook is awake (Prison Guard) so he came to see him. Chi Kook talks to Ba Reum privately and asks him to turn himself into the police without telling anyone else which Ba Reum agrees, but moments later Chi Kook is murder. Ba Reum decides to find Chi Kook's killer then turn himself in later. The Oz organization was behind everything, they left no trace to track. Ba Reum tries to find his supposed aunt in Jeju island and she told him everything about his identity from how he was raised and why she becomes his aunt which it's her mission to track his moments and report them back to Oz. At the same time Misses KNOW IT ALL Bong Yi over here try to put the puzzle into pieces. The person who saved her when she was a kid was Yo Han. He piggybacks her halfway on the street and told her to hang on, if she dies then her loved one will be sad. His statement shows emotion which psychopaths don't have. She then contradicting whether if Yo Han was the serial killer or not. She came to the police station and ask if Yo Han has a cut on his left arm which Shin said no. She then said "Why is he a suspect when he has no cut in his left arm? I clearly said that I cut him while we fought." Shin asked who did she tell it to and she remembers that it was Ba Reum and thinks that he probably forgot to tell the police. Bong Yi went to Ba Reum's house and saw him falling asleep on the couch. She puts a blanket over him and saw his left arm. To make sure he wasn't what she SLIGHTLY think he is, she checks his left arm, and TAAAAADAAAA there it is. She silvers in fears trying to leave. (He woke up and end up hugging her. "So you knew, My Bongyi is so pitiful, what am I going to do with you")
Moo Chi at this time already has his suspicion on Ba Reum because he knew that Ba Reum killed that psychopath pedophile. Bong Yi told him about the kid that saved her (Yo Han) and said maybe he wasn't the killer. Moo Chi come back to the police station and went through all the evidence again trying to prove that he isn't wrong and Yo Han is the killer but while he went through the files, everything makes sense but Chi Kook part makes him puzzled so he went there, reenact then realized that IF BA REUM LIED then everything makes sense which he THEN concludes that THE KINDASS BOI was the SERIAL KILLER, BOI IS A PSYCHOPATH. At the end of episode 19, Ba Reum went to the building written on the paper that Dr.Lee gives him to indicate that a psychopath is there and he needs to kill that person. He came across Choi Young Shin, that vice president or something. -Sorry, kind of long but I tried.
But we do agree that the outcome would have been different if jaehoon had been accepted and loved and treated…
NURTURE WON'T HELP. The feeling of love and care will reverse his desires of killing? I don't think you truly understand the definition of a psychopath gene and how it works. BA REUM HAS NO EMOTIONS. I repeat, HE HAS NO EMOTIONS. He literally doesn't even know what he did wrong. Psychopaths are the most narcistic person in the world. "I'm not wrong for killing, they are just too kind, and that's a sin" "Ha? It's my fault? Nawh, God made me that way, it's god's fault." They will never blame themselves and remorse for what they did. They continuously blame other people for their wrongdoings. The character Ba Reum is BORN that way.
But Shin is tested positive for psychopath gene, and he’s not a killer
To counter your argument, Shin loves his wife dearly. He hasn’t shown any symptoms of wanting to harm another person or the satisfaction of another person going through pain. Your example is just a normal kid getting spoil by his sugar daddy.
But Shin is tested positive for psychopath gene, and he’s not a killer
I don’t recall it but if that’s the case then it’s still a suspicion and not proven to be true. Shin has not shown any psychopath gene. He live a normal life and didn’t struggle in any urges of wanting harm another person. He feel emotions and love his wife dearly.
This only proves that the "psychopath gene" is a myth. And the OZ organization should not exist. Because out of…
Your point is still invalid as only Ba Reum has the psychopath gene and what so call psychopath “gene” do exist. Not only Ba Reum is a solid example but Woo Young Chul can back that up. Plus, the law was not passed so I don’t see how it’s a problem right now. Choi Young Shin is a psychopath so everything within the Oz organization is wrong and we know that already.
This only proves that the "psychopath gene" is a myth. And the OZ organization should not exist. Because out of…
Three children? Which one are you talking about? Was Shin proven to have psychopath gene? Because I only see the part where hes dad voted against it because his wife is pregnant after 10 years of trying and he doesn’t want to risk having an abortion. Yo Han has a genius gene not psychopath. Dr. Lee said he mistook it as psychopath gene.
But Shin is tested positive for psychopath gene, and he’s not a killer
At what part did they show that their baby had psychopath gene? I only know that his wife was pregnant and they waited 10 years for this baby that’s why they didn’t want to risk having an abortion.
The show is focusing on the idea that psychopaths are serial killers so I want to stretch the issue a little bit. (Mainly Ba Reum) Many of you guys said that Ba Reum can be saved early if people pay more attention to him and offer him therapy/counseling. The main issue here is that he was born with the "psychopath" gene. - The instinct of a normal human is to save a lifeless kid lying under the bridge asking for help but Ba Rum called her wailing "annoying" and she dares to "interrupt" him while he game. - He "hates" his father but since he can't kill him, he proceeds to kill what is precious to his father which is the fish and the little doggy. Ba Reum even punishes his brother for the idea of "snitching" on him. What was his punishment? Ba Reum threw him into a hole that he dug and want to bury him alive. "I just want to punish him, but not kill him" basically means he want him to painfully suffer while he watches from above. - Ba Reum is a two-face psychopath, and many serial killer psychopaths are known to live a normal life with a deep secret. They master manipulation and easy to trick everyone around them. Did you think having a therapist would help? It's easy to say then done. He could easily deceive the therapist into thinking that he's normal or getting better. - "Mouse" provides us with psychopaths that are born with the gene that sketch from being curious to taking "actions." There's no emotion or empathy that they feel while on the hunt. They can even deceive the closest to them for vulnerability then hunt them down. They ENJOY other's PAIN and SUFFERING. The show never provides us a "psychopath" that redeems his actions and walks the righteous path. Someone who can resist the urge to kill and the satisfaction that comes with it, therefore, the chances of Ba Reum being saved are very slim.
Disclaimer: I'm focusing on the idea of psychopaths in this drama without stretching it into the real world because not all -paths are killers.
Justice for Sung Yohan. That poor soul! oh God! I want to scream! I'm speechless. How could the director be so…
I KNOW! I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THE SAME THING. I’ve seen countless heartfelt characters but Yo Han is literally one of the most depressing character that I’ve ever seen. There’s no words to even describe it. My emotions just pour out to him :(.
A killer needs a punishment for sure but to become a killer environment surrounding them also plays a huge role..…
If you only want speak about the drama perspective then my opinion clashes yours. It is shown that psychopath gene are serial killers “Woo Young Chul” “Ba Reum” “Duk Soo” are all harmful to the society. Woo Young Chul still live a happy life knowing his father took all the blame hoping he will be remorseful but is he? Duk Soo raped a girl and causes her to be traumatized for the rest of her life. Was he remorseful? He proceed to go after another victim after getting out of prison. He even physically abused his mom, she was literally afraid of him. Ba Reum, a serial killer who will kill anyone and this is shown in his childhood where he kills the fish and the dog that hes father treasure and proceed to threaten his younger brother AT A YOUNG AGE. Walk past a lifeless girl asking for help but proceed to walk away saying “How dare she interrupt my game?” What are the chances of someone getting therapy when hes past the stage of being saved? I’m not going to comment much about the Oz organization as it is still a mystery. If the drama shown that psychopaths can walk a different path, suppress their urges and successfully live a normal life then there could be two perspective of it but this drama portray the dark side of psychopaths.
A killer needs a punishment for sure but to become a killer environment surrounding them also plays a huge role..…
Ba Reum came across a lifeless body asking for help. What would be your first instinct? Call 911 right? Or take her to the hospital, but he walk away and declare her as annoying because “how dare she interrupt my game.” His father nurture the fish and dog, because of that he kill them to anger him. Punish his brother because he “snitch” He wish to be normal but did he once try to be normal? He can’t suppress the urge of killing and the satisfaction of seeing others in pain. My answer is no, but it can be different in your perspective.
A killer needs a punishment for sure but to become a killer environment surrounding them also plays a huge role..…
Yes, I said most of them, but not all. Apply to the original comment. The force that driven them to kill and hunt people like they are prey. Psychopaths choose to be this way. They can CHOOSE to suppress their thirst and control them to not go down a dark path but still it was their choice to become the way they are. You said that they become criminals because they are victim of abuse and violence right? Compare to what you said that not all psychopaths are serial killers which I agree and apply in my previously comment, not all victims or physical and emotional abuse become criminals. Majority? Yes, but not all. They still choose the the path that they take and the consequences that comes with it. “It’s not their fault that they’re born that way” is an invalid statement. Yes, they are born that way but acting upon the reason of how they are born is wrong. People make use of their disabilities instead of harming other people just because “they are born that way.”
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- This line touched my heart.
There's still one episode left but if you want spoilers here it goes...
As you already know, Ba Reum knew about his identity as a psychopath gene and Seo Jun's son. Become emotional, Ba Reum tried to jump off the building with a written note that Yo Han was innocent and he was the serial killer. At the same time, Chi Kook is awake (Prison Guard) so he came to see him. Chi Kook talks to Ba Reum privately and asks him to turn himself into the police without telling anyone else which Ba Reum agrees, but moments later Chi Kook is murder. Ba Reum decides to find Chi Kook's killer then turn himself in later. The Oz organization was behind everything, they left no trace to track. Ba Reum tries to find his supposed aunt in Jeju island and she told him everything about his identity from how he was raised and why she becomes his aunt which it's her mission to track his moments and report them back to Oz.
At the same time Misses KNOW IT ALL Bong Yi over here try to put the puzzle into pieces. The person who saved her when she was a kid was Yo Han. He piggybacks her halfway on the street and told her to hang on, if she dies then her loved one will be sad. His statement shows emotion which psychopaths don't have. She then contradicting whether if Yo Han was the serial killer or not. She came to the police station and ask if Yo Han has a cut on his left arm which Shin said no. She then said "Why is he a suspect when he has no cut in his left arm? I clearly said that I cut him while we fought." Shin asked who did she tell it to and she remembers that it was Ba Reum and thinks that he probably forgot to tell the police. Bong Yi went to Ba Reum's house and saw him falling asleep on the couch. She puts a blanket over him and saw his left arm. To make sure he wasn't what she SLIGHTLY think he is, she checks his left arm, and TAAAAADAAAA there it is. She silvers in fears trying to leave. (He woke up and end up hugging her. "So you knew, My Bongyi is so pitiful, what am I going to do with you")
Moo Chi at this time already has his suspicion on Ba Reum because he knew that Ba Reum killed that psychopath pedophile. Bong Yi told him about the kid that saved her (Yo Han) and said maybe he wasn't the killer. Moo Chi come back to the police station and went through all the evidence again trying to prove that he isn't wrong and Yo Han is the killer but while he went through the files, everything makes sense but Chi Kook part makes him puzzled so he went there, reenact then realized that IF BA REUM LIED then everything makes sense which he THEN concludes that THE KINDASS BOI was the SERIAL KILLER, BOI IS A PSYCHOPATH.
At the end of episode 19, Ba Reum went to the building written on the paper that Dr.Lee gives him to indicate that a psychopath is there and he needs to kill that person. He came across Choi Young Shin, that vice president or something.
-Sorry, kind of long but I tried.
You can just casually sneak into people’s home as if they have no locks.
*slide———open*
While door locks: ???
Your example is just a normal kid getting spoil by his sugar daddy.
Plus, the law was not passed so I don’t see how it’s a problem right now. Choi Young Shin is a psychopath so everything within the Oz organization is wrong and we know that already.
Many of you guys said that Ba Reum can be saved early if people pay more attention to him and offer him therapy/counseling. The main issue here is that he was born with the "psychopath" gene.
- The instinct of a normal human is to save a lifeless kid lying under the bridge asking for help but Ba Rum called her wailing "annoying" and she dares to "interrupt" him while he game.
- He "hates" his father but since he can't kill him, he proceeds to kill what is precious to his father which is the fish and the little doggy. Ba Reum even punishes his brother for the idea of "snitching" on him. What was his punishment? Ba Reum threw him into a hole that he dug and want to bury him alive. "I just want to punish him, but not kill him" basically means he want him to painfully suffer while he watches from above.
- Ba Reum is a two-face psychopath, and many serial killer psychopaths are known to live a normal life with a deep secret. They master manipulation and easy to trick everyone around them. Did you think having a therapist would help? It's easy to say then done. He could easily deceive the therapist into thinking that he's normal or getting better.
- "Mouse" provides us with psychopaths that are born with the gene that sketch from being curious to taking "actions." There's no emotion or empathy that they feel while on the hunt. They can even deceive the closest to them for vulnerability then hunt them down. They ENJOY other's PAIN and SUFFERING.
The show never provides us a "psychopath" that redeems his actions and walks the righteous path. Someone who can resist the urge to kill and the satisfaction that comes with it, therefore, the chances of Ba Reum being saved are very slim.
Disclaimer: I'm focusing on the idea of psychopaths in this drama without stretching it into the real world because not all -paths are killers.
See you guys in the next rumor date :)
It is shown that psychopath gene are serial killers “Woo Young Chul” “Ba Reum” “Duk Soo” are all harmful to the society.
Woo Young Chul still live a happy life knowing his father took all the blame hoping he will be remorseful but is he?
Duk Soo raped a girl and causes her to be traumatized for the rest of her life. Was he remorseful? He proceed to go after another victim after getting out of prison. He even physically abused his mom, she was literally afraid of him.
Ba Reum, a serial killer who will kill anyone and this is shown in his childhood where he kills the fish and the dog that hes father treasure and proceed to threaten his younger brother AT A YOUNG AGE. Walk past a lifeless girl asking for help but proceed to walk away saying “How dare she interrupt my game?” What are the chances of someone getting therapy when hes past the stage of being saved?
I’m not going to comment much about the Oz organization as it is still a mystery.
If the drama shown that psychopaths can walk a different path, suppress their urges and successfully live a normal life then there could be two perspective of it but this drama portray the dark side of psychopaths.
His father nurture the fish and dog, because of that he kill them to anger him.
Punish his brother because he “snitch”
He wish to be normal but did he once try to be normal? He can’t suppress the urge of killing and the satisfaction of seeing others in pain. My answer is no, but it can be different in your perspective.
Apply to the original comment. The force that driven them to kill and hunt people like they are prey. Psychopaths choose to be this way. They can CHOOSE to suppress their thirst and control them to not go down a dark path but still it was their choice to become the way they are. You said that they become criminals because they are victim of abuse and violence right? Compare to what you said that not all psychopaths are serial killers which I agree and apply in my previously comment, not all victims or physical and emotional abuse become criminals. Majority? Yes, but not all. They still choose the the path that they take and the consequences that comes with it.
“It’s not their fault that they’re born that way” is an invalid statement. Yes, they are born that way but acting upon the reason of how they are born is wrong. People make use of their disabilities instead of harming other people just because “they are born that way.”