I'll probably not be able to immediately watch episode 14 and 15, but here's just me commenting an appreciation shoutouts to my beloveds! 💖💖 I love you so much Baekdo! I love you Taeyang squads! Uri Heedo and Yijin, I love love love you both so much! Seungwanie, Yurimie, and Jiwoongie, fighting!
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
Yes, I agree that we need something concrete and I hope that the setup the the writer "sort of" created will be properly addressed as well or at least have a good resolution before the romance between them finally bloom.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
"I think they've been walking this fine line between showing their different places in life right now but also showing how they can still relate it one another?" I think so too, but episode 12 like I said is where their romantic affections became much clearer. In my own interpretation, from episode 2-11 there's still a fuzzy line over it, but I loved that because it was still special. While that special bond is still there at episode 12, it's obvious they are heading to romance direction, so I agree with the opinion of others here that at least we should get some Yijin's point of view before the romance finally happen and I think episode 13 will be good for that.
I also do not take much of an issue with the age gap because as I said earlier they still meet an emotional level and for me that's the most important. It's not everyday that you meet someone you connect the way they did. And, also you are right that he didn't do any advances, which I commend him for that. Yijin also treats Heedo like his equal evident from their past interactions so it isn't really a problem to me. But, probably the choices of the production to let Heedo always wear a uniform and Yijin a suit, could also affect visual interpretation of others. It isn't also much helpful that the writer added "Adult should date adults" principle on Yijin's side. I hope it will be addressed as the conversation with Heedo's ex in episode 12 feels like it could be elaborated better so others will not be confused anymore. A kiss already happened even if it's Heedo who initiated, so atleast I am expecting Yijin's POV too. I have already read some insights regarding that issue and why people can still uncomfortable at it, though I don't fully agree with all of their points, I will hope that the writing will not ruin their special bond.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
I actually want to cry over this two! Lol. Hahahaha. I love angsts and I'm in the mood of crying so I hope they will give it to me. But, of course, I am rooting for their happy ending with Minchae so the writer better give us that. 😂
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
There's an analysis about the drama that the more that the professional conflict route is being foreshadowed, the more it's not bound to happen, because that's what the writer wants the viewers to think.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
I hope the writing delivers well too. I liked the confession scene tho it still had its own ambiguity, but I hope this time, the direction they'll move forward would atleast become much clearer and Yijin's point of view on that will surely be helpful.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
I hope they do address it at least once and I'm also in the "I hope he doesn't kiss back" camp. But I can't deny everything in that scene was delicate, so that's what I liked about that part tho.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
I know you love them hahaha. I'm just saying that we did have different interpretations on their relationship dynamic. I also understand now that what you are pointing out is a writing issue as this conversation goes on. For me honestly, I would like it better if the writer didn't even introduce the age gap issue if it will not be addressed at least once properly. From episode 2-9, I've always felt like they treat each other as equals therefore even that adult statement had not been a problem to me. But as the writing is exploring their romantic relationship, I agree with all of you that it should be properly addressed because she setup that herself.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
Well, we still have different interpretations on his previous actions and I don't think we can immediately change our points of views on that. For me, the romantic attachment only became much clearer at episode 12, and I think of all the previous episodes as part of their deep and meaningful relationship. Nevertheless, I think I'm you that we need to at least have his point of view regarding "their" situation that the writer created.
I also agree with @jia04 in this part: "My ideal scenario would be him clarifying his position fully (even if it comes across a bit like they're breaking 4th wall) because I think it needs to be addressed. I think just an acknowledgment that he blurred lines because he couldn't "keep the distance" would help me understand his position since I don't agree that he ever had bad intentions to her, just that the pacing of show is a bit ??? when it comes to them."
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
Well, we still have 24 & 20 timeline for that and it's only in 23 & 19 timeline when those feelings were acknowledged and it's only when Heedo legally turned 20 that's been sealed as romantic so we'll just have to wait and see.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
I don't think those are just "gay fans" probably some fans of The Handmaiden are the proper term. Anyway, I have seen some of those ridiculous comments and it hurt my eyes that they were literally hating on that kiss scene and Nam Joo Hyuk without context on what the drama is about.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
I still stand on my argument before hand that the confession is not just a romantic confession and that it was beautifully done. I just think that from the start of their interactions in episode 12, their feelings were heading towards a romantic relationship like what we're already expecting and we're even wishing them to be endgame lol. So, for me, the direction was clearer in episode 12 compared to what they have in episode 11. So, I guess, I'll just wait for episode 13 to see how things will go.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
I agree tho, but maybe the writers are trying to setup something diff here like what the tumbler user was trying to prove? That during those time it wasn't much bigdeal but it was Yijin's own principles? Anyway, I just hoped all these things will be resolved the sooner the better hahahaha.
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
Actually the restaurant scene, I enjoyed that part not only because it's sweet but because were really good friends before romantic feelings are starting to get involved, but I understand that it can be off-putting to some. However, when they were inside the restaurant, Yijin paraphrased that scenario as a reporter and subject introducing themselves to each other.
In a tumblr discussion, a viewer said that the restaurant scene can be used to imply that the minor-young adult relationship is not a big deal during those times because no one reacted differently to them being like a "couple". And concluded that the age gap issue could be something from Yijin's principles given his previous statement in episode 2. That can also be true, but I think it's still some sort of an issue as that Heedo's ex accused Yijin of toying with Heedo.
I also hope he doesn't kiss her yet. I know people do not like noble idiocy plot, but atleast having a point of view from Yijin would be so much helpful before they proceed into changing their relationship dynamics.
I haven't watched any of the writer's works so I can't vouch for her that she will be able to properly addressed this issue she setup herself, but the confession scene in my opinion was handled very well so I'm expecting that.
I also hope Jiwoong will not just suddenly go back to Yijin's room so we can hear some honest answers from Yijin^^
I have mixed feelings? This might be rambley so apologies :PFirst, I do want him to kiss her back but I don't…
@Ivy You know what, this is my making my head hurt as well T-T I hope the writing is able to discuss all the floating issues around in episode 13. I, for one, didn't particularly like the adults should date adults statement of yijin and how he kept calling them kids in episode 10 tho because it's setting a different tone and could've been the reasons why others feel icky about it. I really really love them as you guys probably know hahahah so I hope this issue will be handled given the fact that it's the writer who setup those things as well >.<
buddy that's not how grooming works please google before you say things.
“As you said, YJ and Heedo share a special bond - and I think its value is bigger than whether or not it's romantic, because they have helped each other through things each of them needed support during, for no reason other than that they wanted to. It's a beautiful human connection (among many other ones in the show) that is nice to see being portrayed with tenderness like this show does. That's why I am afraid of the writers potentially "ruining" it so close to the finish line.”
I agree with everything you said here as their relationship growth is evidently steering in a different wheel, I am hoping for a sensible writing here as well. I really do love these two to be together because it was very clear that they are soulmates from the moment they shared at episode 2 and what a lovely thing if they ended up marrying each other and having their own loving family.
I will also appreciate it a lot if the drama will show Yijin’s clear POV on his relationship with and if he has a different stand now from his statement before and I do hope it will be in next episode. The confession of his love for her scene was beautifully done, and I hope the writing choices after the first kiss will also deliver. Angsts will come in the next episodes and I’m sensing that it will touch on this issue as well; it may also serve as a great dilemma for Yijin to rethink if his actions and if he will put a clearer line over their relationship. Since Yijin’s character is written as a dependable one, I have a clear inclination that he will put mini break on their relationship as it seems to me from his conversation with dalkong that he strongly feels that Heedo’s time is more precious than his and by “time” I think it’s her youth and dreams are the things that he’s referring. But then again, he's always been straightforward on sharing his feelings so I cannot be sure.
In another point that you mention that it’s Heedo should be the one to decide whether dalkong should comeback in her life, I understand and I do agree with you on that the girl/woman who needs to make choices for herself and not the man—regardless of age differences. But I still appreciate Yijin’s pure intentions behind his words on that conversation.
Thank you so much for replying to my long comment and this had been an insightful thread I also enjoyed!
And there are some who feels YiJin is weird to hang out with highschoolers 🙄
I always noticed this comment and I think the reasons why he doesn't hang out much with his peers are these:
- The drama itself doesn't have enough time for that. Lol hahaha <-- BIGGEST REASON JUST KIDDING - Yijin didn't graduate college, his peers might probably thinking that he's no good; talk about workplace discrimination - Yijin did hangout with some of his friends on first episode but was treated differently and badly because of his new status; He also caused a riff with his friends there so I doubt he will hang out with them anymore. - Yijin is a reporter and his peers who are reporter too probably don't have enough time to hangout after their assignments are over; they are all busy! co-workers only can interact if they have drinks after their work - He's in the same neighborhood with Heedo so he can meet her coincidentally - As sports reporter he has chances to get closer to heedo because she's his subject. - Hanging out with the squads such as seungwan cannot be avoided because she's the landlord's daughter - The beach scene already made them close to the squad are already fond of him and they were the ones who are seeking him out now like how Jiwoong seeked him when his sad because yurim can't attend the concert and jiwoong delivered the photo to yijin - Lastly, Yijin actually has an older colleague who he calls his sunbaenim but they are already in different departments T-T
So yeah, here are the logical reasons I can come up why he hangs out with highschoolers just in case there are those who are feeling uncomfortable regarding this.
I also do not take much of an issue with the age gap because as I said earlier they still meet an emotional level and for me that's the most important. It's not everyday that you meet someone you connect the way they did. And, also you are right that he didn't do any advances, which I commend him for that. Yijin also treats Heedo like his equal evident from their past interactions so it isn't really a problem to me. But, probably the choices of the production to let Heedo always wear a uniform and Yijin a suit, could also affect visual interpretation of others. It isn't also much helpful that the writer added "Adult should date adults" principle on Yijin's side. I hope it will be addressed as the conversation with Heedo's ex in episode 12 feels like it could be elaborated better so others will not be confused anymore. A kiss already happened even if it's Heedo who initiated, so atleast I am expecting Yijin's POV too. I have already read some insights regarding that issue and why people can still uncomfortable at it, though I don't fully agree with all of their points, I will hope that the writing will not ruin their special bond.
I also agree with @jia04 in this part:
"My ideal scenario would be him clarifying his position fully (even if it comes across a bit like they're breaking 4th wall) because I think it needs to be addressed. I think just an acknowledgment that he blurred lines because he couldn't "keep the distance" would help me understand his position since I don't agree that he ever had bad intentions to her, just that the pacing of show is a bit ??? when it comes to them."
Also, here's another good interpretation from the same author where she addressed Yijin's behavior in episode 8: https://sexyglances.tumblr.com/post/678408640655409152/your-mistakes-werent-small-blunders-but-much
In a tumblr discussion, a viewer said that the restaurant scene can be used to imply that the minor-young adult relationship is not a big deal during those times because no one reacted differently to them being like a "couple". And concluded that the age gap issue could be something from Yijin's principles given his previous statement in episode 2. That can also be true, but I think it's still some sort of an issue as that Heedo's ex accused Yijin of toying with Heedo.
I also hope he doesn't kiss her yet. I know people do not like noble idiocy plot, but atleast having a point of view from Yijin would be so much helpful before they proceed into changing their relationship dynamics.
I haven't watched any of the writer's works so I can't vouch for her that she will be able to properly addressed this issue she setup herself, but the confession scene in my opinion was handled very well so I'm expecting that.
I also hope Jiwoong will not just suddenly go back to Yijin's room so we can hear some honest answers from Yijin^^
I agree with everything you said here as their relationship growth is evidently steering in a different wheel, I am hoping for a sensible writing here as well. I really do love these two to be together because it was very clear that they are soulmates from the moment they shared at episode 2 and what a lovely thing if they ended up marrying each other and having their own loving family.
I will also appreciate it a lot if the drama will show Yijin’s clear POV on his relationship with and if he has a different stand now from his statement before and I do hope it will be in next episode. The confession of his love for her scene was beautifully done, and I hope the writing choices after the first kiss will also deliver. Angsts will come in the next episodes and I’m sensing that it will touch on this issue as well; it may also serve as a great dilemma for Yijin to rethink if his actions and if he will put a clearer line over their relationship. Since Yijin’s character is written as a dependable one, I have a clear inclination that he will put mini break on their relationship as it seems to me from his conversation with dalkong that he strongly feels that Heedo’s time is more precious than his and by “time” I think it’s her youth and dreams are the things that he’s referring. But then again, he's always been straightforward on sharing his feelings so I cannot be sure.
In another point that you mention that it’s Heedo should be the one to decide whether dalkong should comeback in her life, I understand and I do agree with you on that the girl/woman who needs to make choices for herself and not the man—regardless of age differences. But I still appreciate Yijin’s pure intentions behind his words on that conversation.
Thank you so much for replying to my long comment and this had been an insightful thread I also enjoyed!
- The drama itself doesn't have enough time for that. Lol hahaha <-- BIGGEST REASON JUST KIDDING
- Yijin didn't graduate college, his peers might probably thinking that he's no good; talk about workplace discrimination
- Yijin did hangout with some of his friends on first episode but was treated differently and badly because of his new status; He also caused a riff with his friends there so I doubt he will hang out with them anymore.
- Yijin is a reporter and his peers who are reporter too probably don't have enough time to hangout after their assignments are over; they are all busy! co-workers only can interact if they have drinks after their work
- He's in the same neighborhood with Heedo so he can meet her coincidentally
- As sports reporter he has chances to get closer to heedo because she's his subject.
- Hanging out with the squads such as seungwan cannot be avoided because she's the landlord's daughter
- The beach scene already made them close to the squad are already fond of him and they were the ones who are seeking him out now like how Jiwoong seeked him when his sad because yurim can't attend the concert and jiwoong delivered the photo to yijin
- Lastly, Yijin actually has an older colleague who he calls his sunbaenim but they are already in different departments T-T
So yeah, here are the logical reasons I can come up why he hangs out with highschoolers just in case there are those who are feeling uncomfortable regarding this.