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by who?

agreed with you. i also researched.

we should encourage people taking time to read and look into these things. maybe use platforms like ground news. we aren't just chomping at the bit to believe men are predators. frankly i wish it was just the fallout over a mistake that could eventually be forgiven, horrendous journalism, and the endless criticism and shunning from society. i would rather her social murder that lead to her suicide not be because she was abused actually. (tbh i want to know why this girl got into her car in the first place too. what happened to her that day?)

a lot of people don't research. if there's anything i have learned from organizing, being black, and then the past 2 years: people are products of our sick societies. those societies produce incurious, hyper-individual, competitive drones. but they can't completely kill the spirit that's within everyone to give a fuck about fellow humans. women and marginalized genders, people, who know that spirit seem to be taking this VERY seriously. thank god for the translating misogyny in korea twitter.

we need to know the actors who abandoned her. i'm so serious. i also want to hear clearly from her family why they allowed this to happen.

i'm curious is this just fans putting way too much time and effort into it? i could see people unleashing bots on mdl honestly bc it's an important english based source.

also realizing what's crazy is that the oj case could even be used as a better argument for op. there's things that contributed to how that case blew up (his race. america's.....whole deal) but it seems op isn't a complex thinker beyond "believe the cops".

actually: op wouldn't care to understand. this is how many (not all) black men was speaking about jonathan majors.

yay! let's wait for evidence everyone from the best most trusted organization in the world! bc if it's one thing we know people love to lie about sexual abuse and women are liars! also men are liars! and ESPECIALLY children.

it LITERALLY doesn't ever fucking matter to people. we're sick of it.

*now he's dead (OJ) thank god

fantastic reply btw. imo we need to keep reminding people he had this girl do fucking child labor for free along with being his "sexual" partner and as she aged so did his interest. then wanted to fucking extort her for the company she helped him built. the literal definition of patriarchy right there.

sorry the person responded by saying it wasn't an ad hominem. that truly isn't a bad question to ask because that's what his fans are saying. that's why OP can't understand why it's a position we chafe under. his fans do exactly that like that is the ONLY reason to defend him (and liking him but a easier way to say it is cos he's hot bc they wouldnt sitll like him if he was ugly. me personally i find him fucking hideous but. you know)

but i think i kinda understand you? i try not to use words that i think appeal to sanity and intelligence (i failed in this thread i'm sorry lmao) like calling someone "crazy" or "dumb" to shut down an argument instead of engaging with the content. i just think in the person's case that is offten a truthy accusation

also i'm looking at your other comments and....i'm gonna think about it. because i do think we are hostile on the internet. sometimes it's hard to sit back and try and deep what someone is really saying and if they truly are an enemy. i don't actually think OP is evil...or maybe they are i don't know. not an enemy but i do think they're...purposefully obtuse in the way their prejudices involve them asking us to 'wait' on condemning kim soo hyun.

yup! it's crazy cos even signal isn't totally secure. tangential but i really hope one day there is a client that is iron clad. alas...

so what you really mean is "wait for the police to tell you that he did it"? no thanks! and luckily i'm not a stupid person so i'm not gonna do that JUST IN CASE. get real

what do you mean it will turn INTO proof. it IS proof. what the fuck else do you need? the police to go 'UH HUH HE RAPED HER AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS NOW'. so you need the police, a notoriously hated institution—even by people who believe in them...like every fucking korean show about cops is about how useless the cops are. and most writers arent abolitionists—to be the one to confirm it instead of:

kim sae ron, kim sae ron's family, kim soo hyun's inability to tell a good lie, and our eyes.

got it

1. the evidence is right there. the police lie all the time and don't, can't, and won't do their jobs properly. you think what we can see is less reliable than whatever bullshit they do? they contributed to lee sung gyun's death by acting...like the police
2. yea....kim sae ron was one of those people who committed suicide.
3. the problem is you're trying to make it seem like we're being unreasonable with our attacks while the EVIDENCE aka TRUTH is coming out at a rapid rate. you want us to deny her claims, her family's claims, what we know about korean society, what we know about society in general, and what we know about women in societies.

your comment is a dime a dozen; straight out of the Devil's Advocate for (usually) Male Abusers. and it's unhelpful. trying to essentially bury the lede makes you sound like a dick i'm sorry. who gives a fuck about this freak's reputation and life? he groomed, abused, and discarded her! all of it is out in the open and here you come wanting us to be measured. get real. i do not give a fuck about the cops or prosecution and what they're able to do, not one. his judgement comes from the public. this SHOULD ruin his life.

understand why you're being called out. next time just shut your mouth. fuck kim soo hyun's pathetic excuse of a life

that's why nietzsche said god is dead

aw. we dont

i mean it is relevant but the whole world is this way. idk what the og comment said tho but if it was racist bc india then fuck that but ummmmm yea actually our societies are unhealthy and its history is part of why.

you're right if i have a daughter and she's 15 i'd think "omg a 27 year old nbd!" ESP if he's famous. i am also a horrible person.

omg same bc i can be a yapper sometimes and i always feel BAD but dont wanna bury it in spoiler.

it's easy to take sides. she's dead. take the side of HER. i agree with you about the parents and they need to say more and repent. this is frequent with child stars and i really despise it. but it's h e r side. she did nothing wrong except for the DUI but she paid for that. from this her family does deserve recompense.

wouldn't it be helpful to, say, put this on the featured page since it's a huge story and your website is being spammed by bots because of it? this is an abuser. it seems relevant to this day and age esp rn and esp as a young kpop girl group is revealing their own labor issues. our societies need an overhaul and celebrity culture is literally ruining lives and creating legions of horrendous fans and anti-fans that have the power to unravel someone's mind oN TOP of the abuse faced interpersonally.

this is mdl and is important to consumers as a repository of asian film and tv. why is this not important enough for the front page? i found out about zhao lu si from MDL'S frontpage. why not here?

anyway, hope he dyes. keep yourself safe soo hyun.

iont like dat

no need to use that word.