This will be my first makjang that I know of. Wish me luck.
it's not really so if you view it through that lens things might get a bit lost. it's a satire that includes ridiculous absurd and satirical situations.
i am genuinely curious at the rating score and how no one, at least that i have seen so far, expressed anything but love of the show. it's not a bad thing, but no one has any critiques? i have not met a single person who couldn't click with it besides me and that doesn't mean i'm wrong so i'm wondering where people are hiding...
i would also like to know, and i am ASKING so don't jump down my throat lol, what people thought of iu if they weren't particularly thrilled with the drama or adored the drama but not her acting? the failed actress (in the show, played by nara) is by far the worst and i wouldn't say iu was terrible but part of what i had a problem with is how truly complex her character was and she couldn't bring what was needed for her to the table. it was more a steady flatness when there should have been more depth and that is a huge thing for me especially when you go against someone with as much presence as her co-star.
i think it was a perfect ending to an amazing and brilliant show. it was complex and i managed to not hate a single…
also, and i'm not trying to be rude, but i feel like some people are missing what satire / satirical comedy (and black comedy) mean and it kind of skews how they see this show. on top of that next to nothing, outside of character interactions and motivations but not the actual happenings, is realistic in this drama and...that is the point. so the ending supports its whole theory.
in fact this drama is so insanely character driven and relies heavily on the dialogue and acting that i felt immersed and could even begin to shape my brain into understanding (mostly) everyone.
a perfect example is the book club. prof cha is a complete pedant and the interpretation being one way and his inability to not flaunt his so-called superiority would truly never be a situation as clear-cut as that in the real world no matter the culture. however, the way they feel and the expressions they have during these times bring us back to that humanity.
there's like this duality going on in the drama that toes the line of realistic but IT IS NOT to me so maybe that's why i'm so attached yet detached to it. i can tell you i would never have thought i would ever vehemently not hate characters like some of these women, or felt people like yeh suh were unbearable, but i felt them, i wanted to understand them, they did the stupidest , cruelest, most dangerous things but i was there with them. the woman seri became from what we thought she was? nothing was flat.
that is why i have either a problem with the portrayal of prof cha (due to the music and idea that he is just some funny person as opposed to an oppressive abuser which was said and depicted btw) and its reception...i wonder and i am still thinking: was it their intention to have him and his family be the least involve in physical tragedy and keep him as he was? are we supposed to know that he loves but his love is not the correct way and it hurts people and he is himself until the very end because he is that character. he is a man that would live in the rule world and do this. he isn't the absurdist part. he is real. so i don't know if it was purposeful or not and i will keep grappling with this but there was conviction at least in the way that you could never (and if so, barely) understand him as a parent and husband.
it's strong in its absurdity, its satire, but ultimately its ever changing idea of humanity.
i'm also thinking about the lack of critique about the idea of motherhood and how intensely this relied on women, older actresses, to make such poignancy. without them this show would be nothing. but the pitfalls of all the things that people suffer with in society include what a mother is supposed to do, to feel, to act and sound like. the devotion especially in asian cultures. there's tragedy in being a mother, there's a lack of time and space, there is COMPLETE devotion to your children because of societal expectations v. your own desires and there is immense pressure. the show doesn't have a clear cut answer and for that i am glad because who are we as women, as mothers, supposed to be? are you truly living? that question and thought is something that has a lot of weight to a mother who is present (in a het rship) with a family and a husband...are they living?
He's the *only* character in the entire drama that I feel absolutely no sympathy nor pity for.
desperately wish he died tbh. it's kind of upsetting to see people like him or find him funny. i hope no one knows the pain, but my upbringing was similar and it was horrendous. he is an abuser to her and his children. for what it was as an ending, i liked the wrap up because it's this absurd turn around in a way so that was fine. but he is a character i think that should not be loved and that was not their intention. he was himself TO THE VERY END.
Among the recent ones, 'stranger' and 'my mister' are better compared to sky castle. As for the earlier ones,…
honestly if you can keep going or start stranger again i recommend it. out of that year i think it was one of the best dramas/tv shows. it's a very very tight story with a really clever way of storytelling. the acting is subtle but incredible. and like with sky castle, i've held on to it and it has effected me. it's something i rewatch plenty to pick up things that i didn't know. the show is really a shock to the system (it's not that stimulating, it's just different.)
i think it was a perfect ending to an amazing and brilliant show. it was complex and i managed to not hate a single character (but prof cha.) i'm not sure how much i would change if anything. but one thing i do know is this: that ending was spot on. the show is a satire/satirical comedy. it's also a warning. in this that means they are portraying real or exaggerated ideas of practices that humans go through. the crazy stuff that's larger than life? sure, we don't know it. but the pain and the pressure? a lot of us have gone through that. a lot of us have families just like the chas. and a lot of us resent it.
the ideas conveyed; motherhood, abuse, capital, classism, and elitism. the manipulation of kids and the way we can destroy people's psyches by pushing them to a limit. the only end to this dark fairytale would be something equally over the top for the. something unrealistic but reflecting and something still haunting that won't stop until we collectively help to change and support a society of incredibly different but worthy people no matter who they are and where they come from. the story's not over, it just continues...let's see if the past can change the future.
the show did exactly what it set out to do incredibly effectively and this is an incredibly poignant drama that will stay with me for a long, long time.
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i would also like to know, and i am ASKING so don't jump down my throat lol, what people thought of iu if they weren't particularly thrilled with the drama or adored the drama but not her acting? the failed actress (in the show, played by nara) is by far the worst and i wouldn't say iu was terrible but part of what i had a problem with is how truly complex her character was and she couldn't bring what was needed for her to the table. it was more a steady flatness when there should have been more depth and that is a huge thing for me especially when you go against someone with as much presence as her co-star.
in fact this drama is so insanely character driven and relies heavily on the dialogue and acting that i felt immersed and could even begin to shape my brain into understanding (mostly) everyone.
a perfect example is the book club. prof cha is a complete pedant and the interpretation being one way and his inability to not flaunt his so-called superiority would truly never be a situation as clear-cut as that in the real world no matter the culture. however, the way they feel and the expressions they have during these times bring us back to that humanity.
there's like this duality going on in the drama that toes the line of realistic but IT IS NOT to me so maybe that's why i'm so attached yet detached to it. i can tell you i would never have thought i would ever vehemently not hate characters like some of these women, or felt people like yeh suh were unbearable, but i felt them, i wanted to understand them, they did the stupidest , cruelest, most dangerous things but i was there with them. the woman seri became from what we thought she was? nothing was flat.
that is why i have either a problem with the portrayal of prof cha (due to the music and idea that he is just some funny person as opposed to an oppressive abuser which was said and depicted btw) and its reception...i wonder and i am still thinking: was it their intention to have him and his family be the least involve in physical tragedy and keep him as he was? are we supposed to know that he loves but his love is not the correct way and it hurts people and he is himself until the very end because he is that character. he is a man that would live in the rule world and do this. he isn't the absurdist part. he is real. so i don't know if it was purposeful or not and i will keep grappling with this but there was conviction at least in the way that you could never (and if so, barely) understand him as a parent and husband.
it's strong in its absurdity, its satire, but ultimately its ever changing idea of humanity.
i'm also thinking about the lack of critique about the idea of motherhood and how intensely this relied on women, older actresses, to make such poignancy. without them this show would be nothing. but the pitfalls of all the things that people suffer with in society include what a mother is supposed to do, to feel, to act and sound like. the devotion especially in asian cultures. there's tragedy in being a mother, there's a lack of time and space, there is COMPLETE devotion to your children because of societal expectations v. your own desires and there is immense pressure. the show doesn't have a clear cut answer and for that i am glad because who are we as women, as mothers, supposed to be? are you truly living? that question and thought is something that has a lot of weight to a mother who is present (in a het rship) with a family and a husband...are they living?
the ideas conveyed; motherhood, abuse, capital, classism, and elitism. the manipulation of kids and the way we can destroy people's psyches by pushing them to a limit. the only end to this dark fairytale would be something equally over the top for the. something unrealistic but reflecting and something still haunting that won't stop until we collectively help to change and support a society of incredibly different but worthy people no matter who they are and where they come from. the story's not over, it just continues...let's see if the past can change the future.
the show did exactly what it set out to do incredibly effectively and this is an incredibly poignant drama that will stay with me for a long, long time.