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Oh interesting. Fiction is fiction, and I think one can find something *fun* to watch, without endorsing it morally in real life. One can recognize toxic dynamics without finding them romantic...so it's interesting to me that people think it's romantic when it's clearly not :D

That's not quite what I was saying and hilarious is not the word I had in mind, but makes sense that we all have different pov!

One person's rational decision can still have negative emotional impact on another person. Just because Grandpa Lin has a reason (however justified), doesn't mean that it didn't look like utter betrayal to the Shen family.

Omg this is well said. He is...incapable of emotional maturity, accepting his own discomfort that someone else might not see what he sees. So he solves it like a problem.

She's seen this side of him before, in a previous episode, with his mom. I do think she was touched that he treated her parents the same way he treats his mom.

Wait people find it romantic? That's... interesting. I find it utterly repulsive, the same way LX might feel. And hell yeah for the dress down she gave him afterwards (in ep 30). I think both the grandpa's speech and LX's show us that JQ character growth will be from learning that he can't always just take what he wants by force.

Yeah it's like if Deng Kai's character was the ML in PoJ lol I love an anti hero. He's complex and entertaining as a character. I understand why people might drop because they feel like they can't root for him, but personally I'm ok not watching a straightforwardly moral and romance (whatever flavor of romance or relationship we have and will have here).

oh it's not even that - it's about how they abandoned her family in the past. I don't think she'd give the young generation the cold shoulder or anything. It's just past trauma being recalled makes it hard for her to truly commit to her role as part of the family.

I thought so too. Jiugao is very loyal, he wouldn't have done it without his master's order. Since other people saw it too, it would eventually travel to his mom, and probably not favorably (to Lanxiang). Might as well act first to control the narrative, and turn it into an advantage (his mom has some sympathy for Lanxiang after hearing it).

I think it actually creates and sustains excellent internal conflict to make us anticipate future episodes. If they get married and are happy, what else would we look for? They would then have to manufacture external conflict like...more crazy women or something.

Agree. But I low-key feel bad for him that he doesn't realize the depth of his trouble lol she can't bring herself to be happy about marrying into the Lin family, of all families. But he doesn't even know the whole history! Man is in for a surprise :/

Suffered happily is what our Linda ye is going through as well lol

no, Jinqi said directly to his grandpa that he asked the new Emperor for the marriage decree.

didn't Jinqi ask her for help though?

There's a note at the beginning saying the setting is a fictional era. They must have riffed on the real history, but I don't think they plan to follow it closely (also strict censorship rules about that - if they are not going to reflect history truthfully they can't use real era 's names. And they can't follow it closely because they have to make space for our characters.

The schedule is not out yet.

I'd say more like it's as if she'd seen death itself lol she's completely terrified.

Yes.

Facts. Usually when they go to the capital 😂 that's when the story starts to nose dive.

They made a point to show the crown prince is attending the wedding, so it could be related to that too. With people trying to silence the Marquis and Jinqi, now the Crown Prince investigating the deposed emperor's grandson, I'd find it hard to believe that Jinqi and Marquis aren't prepared to protect themselves.