KiKo Tsukino

That's okay haha. I can understand the excitement because I felt the same when I was watching those. As for whether they are a cp or not, only time will tell🤗. I wish them the best in what they do, and hopefully we will be lucky enough to get another collaboration between these two as cp because, like all fans we love their chemistry haha 💗

@Noway, It is hard if you dont understand chinese, maybe you can wait to see if someone will sub it.

I am also someone who tries to separate fiction from reality and I try to not ship it but when I do, it's usually because I feel they have something going on between them. Like those subtle hints and not so subtle hints. In that live stream, when she drew him, he was upset that she didn't drew any eyes, lol, you can literally see it here, his reaction was like at a loss for words, start from 30:50, can watch up to 33:50 to get the full context of that part 
https://youtu.be/-ihlVYk-ySM

Translation:
"My eyes, where's my eyes?(lol)" And then she hide behind the drawing LOL, and then he said, still at a disbelief and said "What is this?" "Xue Qing Qing, what did you just draw?" it feels like he was a bit upset at the 'no eyes' part. That shows me he puts how she draws him to the point that it matters, and then when she asked him, why he's so attentive and inspecting her art of him so closely and his reply was, "depends on who drew it, if its you, then ofcourse I will have to pay close attention, but if its others, then I don't care/mind". So this shows me she is on a different level of importance to him, when compared to other people. Even in the end of that part when she praised his art for being better than hers, he told her that her art is not bad, and then when she tries to explain why she drew it like that etc, he still can't get passed that idea that she didn't drew the eyes, and he said "Even so, where's the eyes, I don't see the eyes"(like the fact that he can't let this pass lol, even after saying her art was not bad), she replied him when he asked about the eyes being missing in her drawing, she said "In my heart", and then he kinda laughed and said "fine" (and I'm like wow).

And the part when he said that if he's trapped in Hengdian(which is a place where all historical dramas are filmed), he said he would also drag her there, so she could accompany him.

Like I don't see him doing it for fanservice because in his reply to the live stream, he was saying how he felt, when he was being asked a question, especially on the one where they both was playing a game, where fans asked the question, e.g. Summer or Winter, and they have to choose 1, they got all their preferences the same except for the last one, where it was between a big dog and a small dog, she chose a big dog, and he chose neither, because he have a cat at home, so even if it was a question asked by fans his answer was "I own a cat, so I like cats haha", even when she said that his answer to that preference is to test his male personality, and he said "umm hmm" and while he understand but he won't choose either of that because he don't want either of them, he likes cats. So this shows me he's an honest person and will only speak how he feels on his end.

And there was also one part in that live stream when she said to him why he have to draw a bird when he was doing the peach makeup for that one time, and it was also in reference to the drawing he drew of her in that live stream, which reminded her of the question she always wanted to ask him specifically. She was a little upset (the same way he was when she didn't draw any eyes on her drawing of him), and said to him if he's trying to insult her and implied she's not pretty, because she's already a bird, so why did he have to draw the bird on her face? His reply was that since she once said as Xiao Qing, that she is the most prettiest blue swallow in the heaven realm, he added that for her is because its to remind her that she's a bird, and that she should behave herself and not always fly away (run away) when she sees him. Like both of these drawings are similar in a sense that both of them showed that individually they cared how the other sees/draw them.

Well ofcourse there's others as well in the live stream but I will probably end up typing an essay if I continue lol.

But to sum this up, in this live stream if you noticed they're both wearing the same colour clothes (we call that a cp shirt), it is subtle, but it is a display of something there. Or the likelihood of it could be a coincidence, but what are the chances?

The BTS for that very sad scene was another hint too, where they were hugging each other and comforting each other.

Anyways to me this is what I've gathered on my end, from these hints because usually when two people don't feel that way about each other, they will keep it professional, but from what I got out of the BTS and live stream is, they're either teasing or flirting with each other or showing some form of affection, which I can't help but feel their chemistry is real. But this is how I see it.

It is not impossible for drama couples to start dating, because it has happened before, although for now, but whether they are dating or not, to me what they showed me in those BTS is they are very close and intimate, and along with their live stream further emphasise the point that they understand each other and their preference is 99% the same when they were choosing one over the other. So yeah, I can't help but ship and love them, from what I am seeing. Whether they're a couple or not, I'll just take them as Soulmate for now.

Anyways here's another live stream cut for you if you're interested, this part here is subbed:
https://youtu.be/shPoniZNW80

No problems hahaha. Well for me I enjoyed this for the 2nd couple and Xue Qing Xun and Qing Qing so stick to the end for them.

Honestly watching the live stream for the 2nd couple makes me love this cp even more, like I can't help but ship them to be honest, and how Deng Wei (Xue Qing Xun) couldn't get over the fact that Pan Mei Ye (Qing Qing) didn't draw eyes on him when she drew him was hilarious lol. And then how he said that since she drew it he have to pay extra attention to her drawing but if its others who drew it, he doesn't care, I just love how it shows that her drawing of him matters. They really do have chemistry, and hope they will film another drama as a CP again.

P.S. I don't know why for me, watching the full live stream made me feel like they are a cp. I mean if you pay attention to the subtle hints in their live stream and if you understand what they're saying it gives off that feeling. Not to mention they both wore white (cp shirt) but that's what I got out of their live stream. Well know that if they are a cp then they have my blessing! Love them!

Same same!!! They have so much chemistry which makes them perfect as a couple in another drama!

@Noway,

When I said that, I was referring he don't remember anything beyond that 1000 years he was when he's Xue Qing Xun - Lord of Luofeng Pavillion. So he have the memories of that 1000 years as Xue Qing Xun but nothing beyond that and that's what he wants to find out. That's why he asked that question about what happened 2000 years ago, because the 1000 as Xue Qing Xun he knows, but the additional 1000 years, just before he was stationed at Luofeng Pavillion, he wants to know exactly what happened on his end. The reason why I said 1000 years here is because that was referring to his question when he asked, what happened 2000 years ago (1000 he knows as XQX +1000 he wants to find out before he became the Lord to Luofeng Pavillion). So his memories was nothing beyond that 1000 years as Xue Qing Xun since he drank that tea (/his past memories erased)

Also, in episode 34, if you go and watched that scene again, just before Mingge Xingjun controls Xue Qing Xun, he said to Xue Qing Xun: "That curse is really strong. But, what a pity. A thousand years ago, you should have been a happy couple. But the arrogant Yuchi Longyan made you be far apart from each other", so this indicates that it only has been 1000 years since he became Xue Qing Xun, lord of Luofeng Pavillion, because as Mingge Xingjun said in that scene which I quoted for you, 1000 years before, was when they were still together or could have been a happy couple if it weren't for Yuchi Longyan, because he stole the sacred stone which Tian Gu Xing was supposed to guard that day, which lead to the punishment and tragedy they've received.

As for the tea, yes it does deletes all memories of his past as Tian Gu Xing, so he didn't remember the events that happened in the past and Xiao Qing, or maybe it was made that way since it was a punishment for him (Although I would rather believe he didn't want to drink it willingly though...since Xiao Qing told him to not forget about her when she "died" the first time) so :(

@Noway,

To be honest, it never really fully confirmed how long he served as Luofeng Master, so I am going by what I think and gathered. I just don't think he have served as Luofeng Master for 2000 years because say for example, he served there for 2000 years, when he asked this question to Ziyang what happened 2000 years ago, wouldn't that be odd, because he lived through those 2000 years as Luofeng master already, so he wouldn't need to ask that question, and Ziyang would question him something like: "Wouldn't you know? Since you've served as Luofeng Master for these past 2000 years" (that is already 2000 years at present, and 2000 years ago, would be he becoming Xue Qingxun, so he would know the events that happened from these 2000 years he lived through as Xue Qing Xun), that's only IF we look at the present time he served there for 2000 years already.

That's why I think it's 1000 years as Luofeng Master, because when he asked Ziyang if he know what happened 2000 years ago, it is a subtext here, which I do think he is asking for the missing 1000 years, just before he became Xue Qing Xun as the Luofeng Master, the memories that he couldn't remember beyond that 1000 years he served as Luofeng Master if that makes sense. So 1000 years as Xue Qing Xun - Luofeng Master (he know what happened), but the missing 1000 years (which makes up that question, 2000 years ago), is what he wanted to know/find out because he didn't have any memory beyond that 1000 years when he became Xue Qing Xun.

And when Qing Qing remembered the flashes of her past, she asked him if they know each other 1000 years ago, she said 1000 years in her case because, she is no more than 1000 years old on her end, so to her it's the events that takes place at 3000 years (when Tian Gu Xing is 3000 years old), in the past.

Time line - Flashback: 3000 when he was Tian Gu Xing + 1000 years later when they met again/when he became Xue Qing Xun = 4000 years in total for him.

Qing Qing asked that question: 1000 years ago, being 4000 - 1000 = 3000 years, so the events that takes place at 3000 years (when he's 3000 years old). That's what Xue Qing Xun wanted to know when he asked that question, what happened when he was at 3000 years. To her, she didn't live through 1000 years, because she's probably a few hundred years old. And also, Mingge Xingjun already said that for Qing Qing, since she's not an immortal, she only have like a few hundred years of life-span, so that's why Xue Qing Xun wants her to practice and become immortal, since he wants to be with her for eternity.

Also, another reason why I don't think Xue Qing Xun served there for 2000 years as Luofeng Master is because, I don't think it will take that long for Xiao Qing to be reborn, and then gain a human body, spending over 1000-2000 years just for that is a bit too unbelievable imo.

Sorry, if I confuse you, but this is how I see it on my end with all things considered.

The 2nd couple live-stream cut! They are totally flirting with each other here LOL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJjSVRRd5yk [I love their chemistry, even if it's off-screen omg] <3

@achina,
1) I am guessing its Mingye Xingjun (Fate immortal) who plotted this and told him to or something since he's the ultimate villain and can manipulate others (Although thats just my assumption)

2) Dont know since I didn't focus on the main pair on my end.

3-4) I will do my best to explain lol (it can be confusing lol)

Lets start with the flashback in episode 34, Tian Gu Xing (thats his name 'Lonely Star') in the past said this was the first time in 3000 years that he smiled, and that was because of Xiao Qing(her name in the past), when Tian Gu Xing said that, we can deduce that he's 3000 years old when he met Xiao Qing in the past, because what he said being the first time in 3000 years that he smiled, he meant for as long as he lived, so 3000 years old.

Unlike Xiao Qing who died and got reborned, Tian Gu Xing never died, his memories was just erased, where he was stationed as the Lord of Luofeng Pavillion for a period of 3000 years.

We know 1000 years have passed, after that incident where he lost his memories and became the Lord of Luofeng Pavillion, because in episode 8, he asked Immortal Ziyang what happened 2000 years ago, because he(Xue Qing Xun) couldn't recall, the reason he asked what happened 2000 years ago is because he know what happened in the current 1000 years he experienced as Xue Qing Xun at Luofeng Pavillion, so he was asking for that missing puzzle of 1000 years ago when he was Tian Gu Xing, before he became the Lord to Luofeng Pavillion. It makes sense if you think about it because he wanted to know what happened at 3000 years (when he's 3000 years old) 1000 years of that missing puzzle, before he became Xue Qing Xun (Lord of Luofeng Pavillion). So he said 2000 years ago, because he was stationed as the Lord to Luofeng Pavillion for 1000 years already, so he was just asking the missing 1000 years (1000 + 1000), at the year 3000 for him, just before he became Xue Qing Xun. And Immortal Ziyang said that he hadnt known him for more than 1000 years, so he couldn't give him that answer.

1000 years later, in the present time line, is also when he met Qing Qing again as we saw.

So in the present time line is 4000 years for him (3000 + 1000).

In episode 33 when Qing Qing recalled a flash of her past memory when she saved Tian Gu Xing from the final supreme thunder which resulted to her receiving that Meteor Mark, she asked Xue Qing Xun "Could it be that we know each other 1000 years ago?", so at 3000 years (4000-1000) is when they both met each other and fell in love, and at 3000 years, that was also when they were punished, resulting to Xiao Qing sacrificing herself to save Tian Gu Xing (Lonely Star) and Tian Gu Xing using up his powers to send her to the human realm (the white vortex) so she can be reborn again. At the end of his memories in that final 3000 years, he fainted afterwards and his memories was erased, and name changed to Xue Qing Xun where he became the Lord to Luofeng Pavillion, for a period of 3000 years. He have guarded that place for 1000 years at the start of the present time when he was introduced at the beginning as the Lord to Luofeng Pavillion. (So roughly around a bit below 2000 years to go because approx 100-200 something years have already passed looking at the the FL 4 life times), since his period was 3000 years, and he already guarded Luofeng Pavillion for 1100 years 'at least'.

But technically he is 4000+ years old (high immortal), heaven general, because 3000 years in the past where his back story was revealed and 1000 years as Lord of Luofeng Pavillion.

And Xiao Qing, the her in the past is referred to as a "Half Immortal" by Mingye Xingjun(Fate immortal), so yes, shes an immortal, but you can see that as a low rank immortal since immortals have different rank. The higher rank you are, the stronger you are.

Demons arent necessarily a bad thing, because just like with all living things, theres good and bad. Humans have good and bad, immortals do too, so demons does as well. And just like Xue Qing Xun said to the Kunlun disciples that even if she's a demon, if she works hard than she will become an immortal. Like her past self Xiao Qing since she's an immortal (even if it was a low rank one).

You know the irony to this is that, someone actually said they want less on the secondary leads and secondary couple....lol. I'm like "what? They already dont have enough scenes, and I want MORE of their scenes!"

Omg, I love them. Even in the BTS they are sweet. I do hope they will have another drama together in a Xianxia setting or modern is fine where they play as a couple.

Eternal Love, Ten Miles of Peach Blossom

Yes its a happy ending for them

This drama is a definite watch if you want to heal your heart from Ashes of Love! Imo, I love the romance in this one (And the winner is love) better! Because its sweet and the ML (Shangguan Tou) is so gentlemanly and so charming! The main pairing definitely have chemistry! And Leo Luo did great in this role and in expressing his love!

Yup

Deng Wei and Pan Mei Ye (the second couple live stream). Even IRL these two chemistry is real! (Lol), no wonder they did such a good job in their roles! (Their conversation in this one is so adorable), I love how Deng Wei spoiled a scene in the remaining episodes that have not aired yet LOL

https://youtu.be/01Qiu5hFqlo

Oh I thought I'll answer your question, when Longyan imitated the cat demon, yes, he cannot say it on his end, that was explained in that episode that he have to imitate it, since he cannot speak through the spell that was cast on him to go into her dream. So he can only imitate it and they have to find out who it was. I think that episode is not subbed yet.

I see lol. Well, I'll respect that we have different preferences there, although for me personally, I don't think he will do it right away to break that curse and to put QQ in danger, that's the last thing he would want, because he don't want to endanger QQ.

In the end, the result was that he did waited 1000+ years to want to break this curse, because it was said that he lost his memories after that part.

And I have been thinking because of our discussion, that perhaps the "heavenly emperor" was the one who sealed his memories (or made him forget) when he was unconscious, the speculation of drinking lethea tea might just be a cover up or something, since we didn't see him drink it.

And why the heavenly emperor did that? Well as punishment and also this is to ensure Tian Gu Xing (now as Xue Qing Xun) would not fail his role and duty again, because I do find it hard to believe he would willingly want to forget about Xiao Qing (now QQ) on his end, but this is how I personally see it.

In the end, we can only get so much from the little we've seen lol. Its rather ironic how there are more things to talk about on XQX and QQ over the main pairing when they have so little scenes together.

And it all comes back in a full circle because back then it was Tian Gu Xing who falls in love first and know what its like to protect the one he loves, and when he forgot his memories and became XQX he questioned Longyan(Dragon King) if it was worth protecting "Liu Ying" at the cost of his life and what he said then in reply to XQX was that if he(XQX) never experienced that kind of love, its his(XQX) blessing and his lost, because to not be able to love someone and experience that kind of love was his lost. Like what Longyan said there kinda touch on something XQX would know is the truth but cant recall deep down (due to his lost memories).

@Alila Nguyen,

Lol, so in your position if you know you were cursed would you want to find ways to break that curse or suck it up and be cursed forever?

What's so wrong with him wanting to break that curse? Its only additional points that he wants to take control of his own fate and be with Qing Qing lol.

Even if its futile to break it, but you don't know until you try, it is better than not trying at all and the point here is the fact that he wanted to is far more appealing than him just let the curse take control of him like that... and don't forget, he didn't know how to break the curse, if he did, he would have tried it already lol. That's why he was asking Fate Immortal if there's a way to break their curse, because he wanted to break the curse, since he wants to be together with Qing Qing(and that's understandable).

Your reply felt like you're siding with the heavenly emperor here?? And saw that as Tian Gu Xing (Xue Qing Xun back then) fault that he was cursed because he failed to do his job in protecting that stone, all because he actually had a heart to care for Xiao Qing to go and saved her???

I am not saying heavenly emperor punishing him for failing his duties is unreasonable loll, I am just saying that him placing a curse on them was.....

In the end, lets all be glad that it is not an unbreakable curse lol because XQX and QQ deserves to be together and happy after all that.

I will just reiterate that Xue Qing Xun wanting to break that curse just shows me that he wants to be with her and its reasonable why he would want to since he loves her. If he didn't do anything and just accepted their fate being like that, then I wouldn't have liked that. He is not someone who will not take responsibility of his mistakes, since he was ready to take the lightning punishment even if he have to die from that punishment but being punished by lightning and die from it is one thing and being cursed is another lol. No one in their right mind would want a curse like that placed on them

@Alila Nguyen,

You need to also consider the use of 'subtext' in all languages, especially one as complex as Chinese. From what the Heavenly Emperor said, and his 'tone', you can tell its a curse, Tian Gu Xing understood that. They all do that's why it was recorded in the book of fate. If you dont think he understood it was a cursed placed on him then we see this differently here. To me, Tian Gu Xing would understand that much since he's not stupid lol.

He knows that they couldn't be together because of this. But Xue Qing Xun wanted to break the curse, and he didn't know it was a curse at first because he didn't remember the full details, only flashes of his past that happened, that's why he wanted to seek the answer to what exactly happened to him back then in his book of fate (and the answer to that was in that missing page). Xue Qing Xun didn't know it was a curse at first was because of his lost memories, but that doesn't mean his past self Tian Gu Xing doesn't since he was there when the curse was placed on them.

And the fact that he wanted to break their curse is because he wants to be with Qing Qing, and I don't see there's anything wrong with that lol because it shows he loves her, and the heavenly emperor was being unreasonable for cursing them that way. Him taking the lightning punishment already served as a punishment for them in failing his duty, there's even a possibility that he can literally died from that, and he knows that but he didn't refuse the punishment since he know he failed his duty, so he accepted that punishment in taking the lightning strike. BUT to have that cursed placed on them is the heavenly emperor telling them it is wrong for them to fall in love, and that is why the heavenly emperor is being unreasonable here since two people love each other isn't wrong. If there's anything that Tian Gu Xing disagree with, it's the heavenly emperor view point in them loving each other which lead to this curse being placed on them. Him disagreeing would be positive points on his character since Tian Gu Xing didn't regret loving her. Why do he have to accept that curse? Him accepting it and not 'wanting' to break it is saying he agrees with the heavenly enperor curse -_- So Xue Qing Xun at present wants to break it is pro points for me on his character. Yes, he doesn't know if it can be broken, but its the efforts and what he showed me he 'wants to' break this curse is pro points.

Yes he was in the wrong to all the others for leaving his post and failing to protect what he was sent to protect that day, but it wasn't wrong if he only wanted to protect Xiao Qing (the woman he loved). Both of them got punished because of this.

You can say that Dragon King played a role in their punishment because he was the one who took what Tian Gu Xing was guarding back then, thats why Mingge said to the Dragon King when he was telling Xue Qing Xun to come back to his senses (since he was being controlled by Mingge) that he won't be able to, even if he was able to, he won't let the Dragon King off because Mingge was saying that he's in this position now is because of him(Dragon King).

But honestly, even if Xue Qing Xun knows at first it was because of Dragon King when he read that missing page, yes he was mad(as you can see), but in the end he never kill him or attack him, so that showed me that he's not going to do anything against him if he were to remain in control, unlike what Mingge said to Dragon King. Xue Qing Xun wouldn't because he already see him(Dragon King) as his friend(same way Dragon King seess Xue Qing Xun), that's why for me personally I hated that they have to fight each other, Xue Qing Xun against his will.

It is not impossible to break a curse, and it has happened before but it is usually broken because of the caster who take back that curse or break it for them, I've seen this happened in another story before and in this one. So...

For his forgotten memories, I always felt like him drinking the Lethea tea to forget about his love was not him willingly and that it could be recorded into the book of fate as a cover up, and that he wasn't willing to if he had a choice. But that is my belief in his love for her. But in the end, it didn't work out so bad anyways because it showed that even if his memories was forgotten, but his feelings for her was never forgotten (it was just locked away) until he met her again, where his feelings is gradually being awakened. It shows that his memories is forgotten but his heart remembers, so that's appealing for me, and how seeing her again can trigger these flashes of his past is another interesting point to their development imo.