From what I've read, they do kiss in the manga so...
A first kiss doesn't have to be romantic. Many stories started with a spontaneous kiss that launch the love story... We don't have to agree on this but resorting to insults to make your point tells a lot about you and nothing good... Don't know Olivia and I don't use Twitter.
From what I've read, they do kiss in the manga so...
And my point is they could have kept the kiss and rewrite part of the story around it. The manga doesn't shy away from skinship. Keeping or removing these moments have nothing to to with the series format. You'll see they're gonna give us a sanitize version of the manga, it wouldn't be the first time.
I really like the actors, their chemistry and the plot, but especially the music and the melodramatic style is…
I thought I was the only one. I love me some lakorns and I want to love the series but it's overly dramatic for me. And the BGM is all over the place and ruins many moments.
This series isn't a romance. It's not a love story, but a bromance. I don't know if this series is meant to reassure…
I agree with you but my issue is mainly the teachers. Don't know why they felt the need to make them a couple. Two grown ass men not kissing, barely touching, yet they're now living together...
They are just 16-18 years, so I don’t expect all the couples to be mature. When I was that age, I can assure…
We know that not all teenagers are mature. They make mistakes and don't know what they want. However, they're expected to learn from said mistakes. KimMon are 17 soon 18, they're not 12. From ep3 we've been presented with KimMon's relationship issue aka lack of communication due to Kim's insecurities. Of course, teenagers in fiction should be allow to be immature and make mistakes but from a narrative perspective, it's not great writing nor is it interesting for readers/viewers to have the characters make the same mistake again and again.
You can write "realistic "teenager experience without having them going in circles. Take KitShane for example. We saw their characters development and as a result their relationship evolved beautifully. They're so different yet they learned to listen and understand each other, they confide in each other (their fears, their dreams...). KimMon ? They're static because the writing for them is minimal. Their whole storyline revolves around Kim not expressing himself in order to please Mon. Kim's issue is that he wants to be loved and fear rejection/conflicts. They got together too soon but I thought ok they're very different, let's see how they get to know each other, they're gonna face challenges and decide if they're a good fit. But we got the same issue every episode, with a quick resolution, smiles and cuddles. Rinse and repeat.
For every episode I can think of another way their interaction could have gone: - Mon had a girlfriend before : Kim learns about it, tells Mon he thought Mon was gay, asks him if he's experimenting. Cue to an important conversation about bisexuality/pansexuality. A learning moment for Kim and young viewers. - Mon wants to cancel the sport day : Kim learns about it, asks Mon why he wants to cancel this fun day, tells Mon he's selfish, they argue and get to debate against each other. At the end, they acknowledge it's ok to disagree but they should be respectful of each other. - Kim got accepted at Chiang Mai uni : Kim tells Mon they should break up cause long distance relationship are doomed, Mon disagree and makes him see they should give it a try And so on. In all these examples, Kim's actions are also motived by his insecurities. He still needs reassurance. However, he's learnt to express himself. He doesn't lie (much), doesn't avoid conflicts. He progresses as a character and in turn KimMon's relationship evolves too.
Cause he thinks it's better to be there and get all the info they need. Since he's strong, he thinks he can break out anytime he wants. The guy doesn't fear death.
Once again a missed opportunity to have a serious KimMon conversation. I wanted Mon to say he wants a long distance relationship but he fears they're not gonna last because of Kim's inability to communicate his feelings and his tendency to lie to avoid conflicts. It's nice they resolve their issues quickly but it's tiresome to be in a relationship with someone unsecure like Kim. The writing really didn't let KimMon progress, they kept repeating the same pattern every episode.
This episode wasn't as good as the last two. They got together pretty abruptly. There was no build up in this…
- 5 episodes of build up that led to sex. I wouldn't call that abrupt. Don't know what more they can do. - Jealousy and confession while arguing is pretty cliché. The MCs talked calmly about their feelings and admitted they wanted to try again. It's refreshing to see characters act maturely instead of going for overused dramatic scenes. - In next episode trailer, you can hear Phi say he knows why Tam left. I guess he was pissed and felt betrayed because Tam didn't tell him what was going on at that time. But now, he just want Tam to confess so they can have an open talk and fully mend their relationship.
I'm enjoying this series -- a lot -- but this week's episodes were a little slow and boring.
This week episodes were slow but not boring. It was less manipulation and more open feelings. It's very much needed to connect the MLs and deepen their feelings.
12 episodes is too long for this series. It's quite boring now. I've lost interest in KimMon cause their relationship is still superficial, they got issues but resolved them too quickly. For example, in this episode, when Kim said he was afraid Mon was "experimenting" because he's in a boys school, I thought Mon would say "no, I'm not experimenting, I've always like girls and boys". It would have been an interesting discussion about bisexuality. But no, they quickly glossed over Kim's insecurity by having them play bowling, laugh and cuddle. Like it's their default mode in every episode... Also, why don't they kiss like a normal couple ? KitShane had several kisses so what's the problem with KimMon ?
PoddPapang are wasted. They started good but now we don't see them enough and their romance progresses off screen. Them living together that quick isn't believable.
Such a good episode! My favorite I think. The way Sorn was all sweet and playful, I would have folded just like Jun. Boat is too pretty! I love that Sorn finally admitted he has been in love with Jun years before they even start their fwb affair (IIRC the novel, he gave him the shoes a year before the koi pond garden). I also like the fact that despite being heartbroken and trying to win Jun back, Sorn stayed the same shit he is : annoying, jealous and still blaming everyone and their mother for his fuck up. Very consistent writting lol.
I like the production aspects, looks really good, and the actors are great (first time seen them) but the plot…
Come on, read the page summary or ask questions before assuming. This is Y-Destiny sequel. We know the characters and the couple's dynamics. Watch the prequel, you'll appreciate Suntiny better.
I'm loving it! I'm usually very critical but one thing I will never judge is originality, offering something new to the game. Suntiny is fresh, camp, funny and yet delivers a powerful message that few bls dare to : - verse couples exist - sexual preferences aren't defined by physical appearances - sexual preferences aren't set in a relationship (they can change and people should be free to explore). As usual Maxnat are delivering the chemistry and they def improve their acting every series they get. I love them.
Don't know Olivia and I don't use Twitter.
You can write "realistic "teenager experience without having them going in circles. Take KitShane for example. We saw their characters development and as a result their relationship evolved beautifully. They're so different yet they learned to listen and understand each other, they confide in each other (their fears, their dreams...). KimMon ? They're static because the writing for them is minimal. Their whole storyline revolves around Kim not expressing himself in order to please Mon. Kim's issue is that he wants to be loved and fear rejection/conflicts.
They got together too soon but I thought ok they're very different, let's see how they get to know each other, they're gonna face challenges and decide if they're a good fit. But we got the same issue every episode, with a quick resolution, smiles and cuddles. Rinse and repeat.
For every episode I can think of another way their interaction could have gone:
- Mon had a girlfriend before : Kim learns about it, tells Mon he thought Mon was gay, asks him if he's experimenting. Cue to an important conversation about bisexuality/pansexuality. A learning moment for Kim and young viewers.
- Mon wants to cancel the sport day : Kim learns about it, asks Mon why he wants to cancel this fun day, tells Mon he's selfish, they argue and get to debate against each other. At the end, they acknowledge it's ok to disagree but they should be respectful of each other.
- Kim got accepted at Chiang Mai uni : Kim tells Mon they should break up cause long distance relationship are doomed, Mon disagree and makes him see they should give it a try
And so on. In all these examples, Kim's actions are also motived by his insecurities. He still needs reassurance. However, he's learnt to express himself. He doesn't lie (much), doesn't avoid conflicts. He progresses as a character and in turn KimMon's relationship evolves too.
The writing really didn't let KimMon progress, they kept repeating the same pattern every episode.
- Jealousy and confession while arguing is pretty cliché. The MCs talked calmly about their feelings and admitted they wanted to try again. It's refreshing to see characters act maturely instead of going for overused dramatic scenes.
- In next episode trailer, you can hear Phi say he knows why Tam left. I guess he was pissed and felt betrayed because Tam didn't tell him what was going on at that time. But now, he just want Tam to confess so they can have an open talk and fully mend their relationship.
I've lost interest in KimMon cause their relationship is still superficial, they got issues but resolved them too quickly. For example, in this episode, when Kim said he was afraid Mon was "experimenting" because he's in a boys school, I thought Mon would say "no, I'm not experimenting, I've always like girls and boys". It would have been an interesting discussion about bisexuality. But no, they quickly glossed over Kim's insecurity by having them play bowling, laugh and cuddle. Like it's their default mode in every episode... Also, why don't they kiss like a normal couple ? KitShane had several kisses so what's the problem with KimMon ?
PoddPapang are wasted. They started good but now we don't see them enough and their romance progresses off screen. Them living together that quick isn't believable.
I love that Sorn finally admitted he has been in love with Jun years before they even start their fwb affair (IIRC the novel, he gave him the shoes a year before the koi pond garden).
I also like the fact that despite being heartbroken and trying to win Jun back, Sorn stayed the same shit he is : annoying, jealous and still blaming everyone and their mother for his fuck up. Very consistent writting lol.
- verse couples exist
- sexual preferences aren't defined by physical appearances
- sexual preferences aren't set in a relationship (they can change and people should be free to explore).
As usual Maxnat are delivering the chemistry and they def improve their acting every series they get. I love them.