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I didn't understand this part, at all.

A total 180°. What a shame.

There's always this person who think they're smarter than others. No one said JW isn't hurting. Read again the comments using your brain this time and you'll get it...

Nah, I love the friends-to-lovers trope but I didn't like this series.
There's no chemistry and I didn't feel the love. There's no character depth, no character development. Sakura confesses his feelings to Yuma, the boys get together the next episode. They talk about liking each other but the script doesn't explore it. In these kind of stories, where one person (let's call them A) confesses to their childhood friend (let's call them B), it's important to show the shift from friends to lovers and most importantly you have to empathize that B's feelings for A are romantic and not a knee-jerk reaction in order to keep A in their life (thus maintaining the statu quo). Because we all know liking someone is not the same as being in love with someone... Here all these points are dealt quickly and without depth.
The only thing I liked was the honesty between the guys (their respective confessions and the fact that they didn't create drama afterward).
This series is more a teen slice of life drama than a romance.

Thank you! You explained perfectly my issues with this season. Why would you break up with your lover over such reasons? Why not try to work it out together? Why not go to a psychologist to treat your issues in order to save your relationship?
This whole plot is cheap asf.

You have a point. Yet, I can see two differences with these two dramas:
- Akira broke up with Yuuki properly. He didn't leave one morning with a note left on the table. He gave an explanation to Yuuki though it's one that might be seen as stupid for viewers. Unfortunately, Japan still don't really embrace queer people. It's also a society where you have to fit in, you can not go out of the box. So while Akira's decision was cruel to Yuuki, it was understandable.
- Akira is an easy character. His pov is simple and his actions are easy to understand. You get what he says and why he says it. He doesn't spend multiple scenes hurting Yuuki like JiWoo has done to SeoJoon. That only is reason enough for people not wanting them to get back together.

SJ is easy to read. Even in season 1 you could understand his actions. I really love this character. He has this innocence, this nonchalant attitude but still he's caring and perceptive.
SJ didn't have a easier life than JW: he also lost his parents (they're not dead but isn't it the same?) and he might have had a hard time to get where he's as a movie star. He could have been closed off emotionally like JW yet he's so open about his feelings. He's a bit of a narcissist and a pleaser but nobody is perfect lol.
It's interesting to see how these two people with broken pasts ended up seeing and reacting to the world so differently.

Yeah, I've noticed those using the female word usually look down on women for whatever reason...

I'm not sure I understanding what's going on with JW. Is it me or the writing is a bit confusing on that matter? What was that, the part about him leaving to hurt SJ? Him going to the countryside waiting for SJ to find him?
I was pleased when SJ told JW he gave up. Yes, boy, pick up your self-esteem and go back to Seoul! I'm so hurt to say that but I don't want them to end up together. SJ deserves better.

I'm also disappointed in HDS's take on season 2. It's a complete 180° from season 1 athmosphere. I believe she could have written this story of breakup and heartbreak with less gloom and without destroying JW's character.
I'm never gonna ask for a season 2. I'm scarred for life.

Nothing to do with being gay. In real life, man or woman, straight or LGBTQ+ there are many people so in love they're willing to do anything to keep their lover or to get back with them. They lose their self-esteem and confidence in the process (if they had any to begin with) . Psychology has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Your comment is unwarranted and I bet you wouldn't be saying this if you had liked the series.

I share the same opinion. I feel Bible was more into it than Build whose face was quite blank (considering what was being done to Pete, I expected more reaction). I'm not judging them, I understand it's a very difficult scene to act.

Thank you! How hard is it to understand the series can't be the same as the novel? How hard is it to adjust your expectation to reality so you can enjoy what you're watching? At this point, people (VP fans mostly) are just being mean for the sake of it. They ask for something and when they get it they complain about this or that. There's no way to satisfy them.

I was here following the comments when the series was airing. The good rating doesnt' mean people didn't have complains about it. Not loving a series doesn't mean you're a hater. Such a weak argument lol. You just showed you're pueril and not smart enough for constructive discussion.

Many people didn't like MODC because of the storyline execution : there were valid criticism about the pacing, HaoTing sudden feelings for XiGu, the infamous trope of the victim liking his bully, the time jump after XG's death and the weird doppleganger. So it's not just about the ending. To each their own, but don't pretend people who don't like MODC are just salty about the ending.

The BGM was unfortunate but even so it would have worked if we had facial expressions and one or two graphic shots (like in Pornographer). I don't think it's an issue with the directing since they knew what to do for KP. Either it's a deliberate choice for VP (a strange one) or the actors were not comfortable enough to let go of their inhibition and they had to edit the scene the best they could.

He's great! You don't see him acting, he's Vegas.

Not Porchay being dumb because of a guy he’s known a couple of months. That’s stupid and a disrespect to Porsche who has been breaking his back to support him so he’d have an education.

Not people complaining about Pete's Stockholm syndrome because he didn't leave when he could. What do you think is going on in the novel? What is a victim of abuse falling in love with his kidnapper and rapist ? The series created another reason for VP's relationship to develop but let's not pretend the series isn't truth to VP characterization.

I think people expectations for VP sex scene were too high because they’re still comparing the series to the novel and « forgetting » the novel didn’t portray a BDSM RELATIONSHIP at first. What Vegas did to Pete was more about non-con and humiliation than BDSM.
First rule in the BDSM community is to discuss sexual preferences and to set boundaries to avoid non consent and accidents. Anyone saying otherwise is a fraud or a threat to others. Since their sexual intercourse was a spur-of-the-moment thing, realistically speaking, Vegas wasn’t going to flog or smack Pete. What we got was already good stuff, especially because we saw Pete shows what he wants.

Now, tbh, I expected it to be more gritty, more rough. You know, something like in History 3 MODC when BX took ZG in the bathroom. Or like QAF US lol. Basically, more mimicking the intercourse and more facial expressions showing they’re enjoying themselves. What I got gave me soft boyfriends vibes when I should have seen two broken guys using sex to heal and BDSM as common ground.

Finally someone said it! I'm so tired of second lead syndrome fans always trashing the main couple for no reason. Just enjoy your pairing and shut up! We're watching a series called KinnPorsche not VegasPete or KimChay ...

We're in 2022 but some screenwriters and directors don't want to improve.

Not the 3 minutes screentime female whose only purpose is to create conflict between the couple. Lazy writing! Especially since the conflict can be resolved just with a phone call from Prince to Dao and Kluen to check Fah didn't go with the girl. You'll see it will take all next episode to resolve this ridiculous matter.