And another Chinese drama which name escapes me - 36k+ and it hasn't even aired yet.
To be honest, coming from the startup comment section, I can already tell you, there is FAR FAR less discussion in this comment section that in Start Up. Unless the Blinks come in mass, this may only get 23-25k comments by the end of airing.
When Snowdrop first came on MDL, I thought this would be enough to surpass Start Up, and even hit 50k comments due to Jisoo popularity, but I am wrong. And for a drama that has many things to discuss about it other than Jisoo's acting. I am a bit disappointed that most people don't want to discuss the actual drama.
The fact there are international fans who are on that side. I would think there became pretty su cessful.
And they never should to be honest? Because Hallyu Wave may be here to stay forever, but it's only a matter of time when it's content get's stale, and South Korea loses it's dominance.
It wouldn't make sense to me for China to make a drama for international audience, or Japanese to make drama for international audience. Best to pander to your local population first.
Having said that, there are many Koreans who reside in the US, and I am sure one of them will eventually make a internationally appealing drama. But keep in mind, they will aim for several seasons and not just a one season flash in the pan.
I disagree. All the controversial stuff doesn't make the plot stronger.They could have skirted the whole thing…
Just ignore that it's on Disney lol! I just don't get Disney, their level of political correctness and perchance to destroy childhood classics has reach a nuclear level.
I love Boon ok though, because she's a multidimensional character that has people loving her (like me), or hating her.
I really enjoyed Jang Hanna as well, until I realize she joined ANSP for a man, and in Ep. 5 was basically dumbed down to a screaming female who yearns for her man. Characters assasination at it's worst.
Not even authoritarian regimes. People can be branded spies even in democratic countries like the US. It's harder to get away with it sure, but it can certainly happen.
In fact, innocent people go to Jail ALL THE TIME. We don't even need to go that far back, and see many African American's being wrongfully accused of crimes. Is this any different that what happened in South Korea?
Whether they are actual spies or being labelled as such, we don't know.
The fact there are international fans who are on that side. I would think there became pretty su cessful.
That is what I used to think. But look at Squid Game for example, I read at the time, many Koreans didn't think it was good. Only when it was starting to get so much hype that Koreans are suddenly saying, "Oh, we knew it was good all this time", with those actors/actress suddenly becoming popular and getting more valuable as brand ambassadors.
Back when Netflix wasn't hoarding K-dramas, local audience perception and image was very important, but now production houses are realizing that international audiences are a big market share as well. Let's not forget, we don't even know the numbers from fans in China, who consume Kdrama quite heavily as well.
Just like international fans want to know what South Korean thinks about Snowdrop, I am sure Korean fans want to know what International fans think as well. It's human nature.
I disagree. All the controversial stuff doesn't make the plot stronger.They could have skirted the whole thing…
If the writers actually had the guts to show a high body count, and actual torture, heck I would love to see some waterboarding. All the suspense, edge of my seat comments I am seeing would be justified.
But as a person who has seen her fair share of spy/action, noir thrillers, Snowdrop is really lacking. And for a fan of Black Comedies, Snowdrop is also lacking.
So I can't quite figure out what the Writer/Director is going for.
None of the suspense/thriller is earned, it's all artificially put together by writer's duct tape, and staid confetti.
You are absolutely right though, the premise makes for an interesting one, but they completely dropped the ball on it. Who can tell, maybe the original retelling before the controversy started was a masterpiece. But what we are seeing right now, seems like a poor representation of those times.
For me, the only person whose death at this point would make me shed tears is Boon Ok and Dr. Kang. All the other characterization have in itself became one toned faceless blurs that have left very little emotional attachment for myself.
People are already saying that most Koreans do not care about the contrvsery.It's two things. Jtbc is not that…
Those are considered hits though. I am saying just a regular JTBC drama. Just because a drama has huge hype doesn't mean it will get 20-30% ratings.
Talk for example TKEM. It was Lee Min Ho's first drama after enlistment, and was heavily hyped. At the end of it's run, barely average 8%, which is standard for a TVN drama.
Even without the controversy, there is enough issues with the plot direction and writing for it not to reach those high of a ratings, controversy aside IMO.
can anyone tell me the true history behind this? or the name the movement this drama is based on????
The drama is not highlighting any actual movement. But if I were to choose a movement. It is the 1987 pro-democracy movement in South Korea.
In 1987 a few students were wrongfully accused as spies and tortured to death. This prompted a big protest that eventually led to a fair elections in December of 1987. The intelligence arm ANSP are the ones responsible for their deaths.
So far Snowdrop has not talked about any of those except for the bad things the ANSP used to do.
In Snowdrop comment section, I don't see much people talking about them. Except that Dr. Kang could be a North Korean spy.
There is only so much you can reply to a comment that says "Best drama ever" LOL!
I meant, they shouldn't make Kdramas speifically just for international audiences. Because who knows how long Korean Hallyu will stay on top?
Petition to make Young Ro a Disney Princess when?
I love Jung Yumi! In fact, I love most of the ladies at SOOP, Gong Hyo Jin being my bias :)
Start Up - 30k+
Long Ballad - 34k+
And another Chinese drama which name escapes me - 36k+ and it hasn't even aired yet.
To be honest, coming from the startup comment section, I can already tell you, there is FAR FAR less discussion in this comment section that in Start Up. Unless the Blinks come in mass, this may only get 23-25k comments by the end of airing.
When Snowdrop first came on MDL, I thought this would be enough to surpass Start Up, and even hit 50k comments due to Jisoo popularity, but I am wrong. And for a drama that has many things to discuss about it other than Jisoo's acting. I am a bit disappointed that most people don't want to discuss the actual drama.
It wouldn't make sense to me for China to make a drama for international audience, or Japanese to make drama for international audience. Best to pander to your local population first.
Having said that, there are many Koreans who reside in the US, and I am sure one of them will eventually make a internationally appealing drama. But keep in mind, they will aim for several seasons and not just a one season flash in the pan.
Old MDL used to be full of one liners
"best Kdrama of all time"
" actor is amazing!"
"I can't wait for the next episode"
"Dropped this drama"
"This drama is boring"
Now, there seems to be more avenues to open the discussion.
Once you block the zealots on either side of the wall, the comment section is quite nice.
I love Boon ok though, because she's a multidimensional character that has people loving her (like me), or hating her.
I really enjoyed Jang Hanna as well, until I realize she joined ANSP for a man, and in Ep. 5 was basically dumbed down to a screaming female who yearns for her man. Characters assasination at it's worst.
Hype doesn't really much, if a drama is good, you will see a steady rise, similar to world of the married, CLOY, and other big hits.
In fact, innocent people go to Jail ALL THE TIME. We don't even need to go that far back, and see many African American's being wrongfully accused of crimes. Is this any different that what happened in South Korea?
Whether they are actual spies or being labelled as such, we don't know.
The stage is already set up for someone to die, we just don't know.
As of now, in the whole drama there are a total of four on screen deaths only. And all of them very very minor characters.
Back when Netflix wasn't hoarding K-dramas, local audience perception and image was very important, but now production houses are realizing that international audiences are a big market share as well. Let's not forget, we don't even know the numbers from fans in China, who consume Kdrama quite heavily as well.
Just like international fans want to know what South Korean thinks about Snowdrop, I am sure Korean fans want to know what International fans think as well. It's human nature.
But as a person who has seen her fair share of spy/action, noir thrillers, Snowdrop is really lacking. And for a fan of Black Comedies, Snowdrop is also lacking.
So I can't quite figure out what the Writer/Director is going for.
None of the suspense/thriller is earned, it's all artificially put together by writer's duct tape, and staid confetti.
You are absolutely right though, the premise makes for an interesting one, but they completely dropped the ball on it. Who can tell, maybe the original retelling before the controversy started was a masterpiece. But what we are seeing right now, seems like a poor representation of those times.
For me, the only person whose death at this point would make me shed tears is Boon Ok and Dr. Kang. All the other characterization have in itself became one toned faceless blurs that have left very little emotional attachment for myself.
Talk for example TKEM. It was Lee Min Ho's first drama after enlistment, and was heavily hyped. At the end of it's run, barely average 8%, which is standard for a TVN drama.
Even without the controversy, there is enough issues with the plot direction and writing for it not to reach those high of a ratings, controversy aside IMO.
The only thing more shocking is if soo ho kills young ros father or brother.
They release their trap card too early.
In 1987 a few students were wrongfully accused as spies and tortured to death. This prompted a big protest that eventually led to a fair elections in December of 1987. The intelligence arm ANSP are the ones responsible for their deaths.
So far Snowdrop has not talked about any of those except for the bad things the ANSP used to do.
They could have skirted the whole thing completely.
But writers do what writers. Do
It's two things. Jtbc is not that big of a station and 3-4% is normal for a jtbc drama.
Secondly it's being aired during Christmas season. So maybe people just have better things to do.
And maybe it's not as good as people think?