Akhilesh Dandge

Addiction impairs judgment, but it doesn’t rewire someone into an abuser overnight. Not every addict turns violent, and not every violent person is an addict. Have you even come across any addicts ever in your life?

Those were all excuses, and HSJ clearly knew that. It was merely his low-self esteem and high walls for his own mental sake at play. People who have been at shit crazy lows in their lives could only understand his actions, unfortunately! Otherwise things would appear quite superficial to most. HSJ was emotionally much more stable and mature and knew his partner well. HJW was just a lost vulnerable puppy, symbolically portrayed so well by the child actress. The clear message here is breaking down your walls and learning to appreciate yourself and communicate well with your partner. I have nothing more to add. Hope it helps

Yes

Your defensive tactics are as predictable as they are ineffective. The 'it's about the protagonists' deflection, the 'real life is shallow' excuse, the 'lacking empathy' accusation, and the 'write it yourself' non-argument—these are all tired tropes used to shield a poorly constructed narrative.

Let's address your specific points while also dissecting the show's broader flaws. You claim 'it's about the protagonists,' but a story's focus doesn't excuse lazy world-building. The supporting characters and plot points are not mere background noise; they contribute to the narrative's integrity. The mother's unbelievable ignorance, the father's sudden descent into alcoholism—these aren't 'gaps' for the audience to fill, they're plot holes that undermine the story's credibility.

You argue 'real life is shallow,' but that's a convenient excuse for lazy writing. Real life is complex, messy, and nuanced, and good storytelling reflects that. 'Our Youth' instead relies on melodramatic tropes like the 'tragic past' and 'forbidden love,' reducing characters to one-dimensional archetypes. The 'poetic' monologues, delivered with forced intensity, feel pretentious rather than profound. The forced chemistry and the heavy-handed symbolism—they all contribute to a narrative that feels manipulative rather than genuine.

You accuse me of 'lacking empathy,' but empathy isn't about blindly accepting emotional manipulation. It's about understanding and sharing the feelings of others. I have empathy for well-crafted stories that resonate with genuine human experience. 'Our Youth,' with its contrived conflicts and shallow characterizations, fails to achieve that. And your insistence that divorce happens solely because people 'stop loving each other' ignores the complexities of real-life relationships.

As for the 'write it yourself' challenge, it's a non-argument. I don't need to be a chef to recognize undercooked food, nor a builder to identify a structurally unsound house. Similarly, I don't need to be a writer to recognize lazy writing. And the fact that you resort to personal insults like 'idiot human' only underscores your inability to engage with valid criticism.

So, please, spare me the condescending lectures and the personal attacks. I'm not interested in engaging with someone who resorts to such tactics. I'll continue to point out the flaws in 'Our Youth,' both the specific plot holes and the broader narrative weaknesses, because someone needs to. And if that makes me an 'idiot human' who 'lacks empathy' in your eyes, so be it. At least I'm not an idiot human who defends terrible writing with baseless accusations, empty platitudes, and a complete disregard for narrative coherence.

The drama is flat and horrible. It's all a PR success. It has no depth or substance

Oh, so now divorce just happens because people ‘stop loving each other’? No possibility of deeper issues, no history, no financial instability, nothing—just a casual breakup and a custody arrangement based purely on blind trust? That’s cute. So we’re supposed to believe this man was a perfectly fine father until—poof!—he magically became an abusive drunk only after the divorce, and the mother, who lived with him for years, had absolutely no clue about any violent tendencies? No signs, no warning, just instant villain mode?

And then we have Hirawaka, who spends the entire drama haunted by ‘not wanting to turn into his father’—but why would he even have that fear if the man supposedly only became abusive after the divorce? Did he predict the future? Absorb trauma through the air? Or did the writers just forget their own setup?

But sure, let’s ignore all that and pretend this is some deep, thought-provoking masterpiece rather than a pile of lazy, overused tropes. If anything, the real ‘lack of common sense’ here is trying this hard to justify writing that doesn’t even bother to justify itself. Almost like... I don’t know, someone’s paid to do it?

Ah yes, the classic PR spin—'missing details make it deep,' 'it's up to the audience to fill in the gaps,' and 'just feel the emotions instead of questioning the writing.' Convenient, isn't it? The mother entrusts her kid to a man she divorced yet has no clue he's turned into an abusive drunk? No backstory, no explanation—just vague excuses and headcanon to cover up weak writing. If plot holes and clichés are now considered 'real-life-like,' I guess anything can pass as profound as long as the right PR accounts push it hard enough.

Lmao, you’re acting like this is some groundbreaking psychological case study when it’s just lazy writing wrapped in trauma porn. ‘Alcoholics are just violent, no explanation needed’—what a convenient excuse for zero character depth. You sound like a 12 year old whose only experience with alcoholics are bunch of men fighting on streets. Meanwhile, every action in this show is just an overused trope with no logical progression. But sure, keep defending this mess like you're on the PR payroll.

No drunk person beats up their own kid black and blue just because they're addicts and so called violent, there's always a cause behind everyone's actions, and a mother who divorced him for the very same reason is completely clueless of her ex-husband's behavior? Yeah a high school delinquent is going to protect his mother and ruin his own life for the crimes committed by his other delinquent friends is 'realism'? Sounds more like lazy writing disguised as trauma bait. No wonder this drama needs PR accounts like yours to defend it.

This is pure Fujoshi fetish consumption filled with all cliche tropes and overused typical uke-seme overplayed plotline. No reason why his father randomly beat him up for no reason and him quitely getting beaten up and bunking school without informing his mother. Mother being absolutely ignorant of what is happening in her child's life. Hirawaka taking up the blame for his friend's theft? Like wow what are you a hero? Bro you can be jailed, let alone being rusticated. Dead fish kisses, and Minase acting beyond shocked and running away like a disgraced girl when kissed. The plot is beyond ridiculous

just someone not aligning with your preferences doesn't entitle you the crown of a literary critic

Its boring

Extremely boring, shallow and predictable. Flat one dimensional characters straight out of yaoi comic with zero reasoning or motivation for their actions! So called poetic references were extremely repetitive and lacked any sort of emotional depth. Certainly overhyped!

Exactly my point. This drama requires an open mind and certain level of emotional maturity to fully grasp its depth and look beyond its so called tragedies

There's hardly any nc scene. wouldnt matter if you watch uncut or cut. Youtube is probably cut and iqiyi is uncut

It's overhyped

Yeah unfortunately cause you're so dense. I feel sorry for wasting my time and energy on you. And yeah regarding that I'm pretty sure that's going to be the reason for my demise soon. Shouldn't have taken someone who rates KP 9.5 and LITBC 6.5 seriously in the first place! You continue living in your bubble and let others fight for their cause to let their suppressed voices be heard

And you still fail to realise that this is a public project based off a certain sources material that the directors have to abide by, and being an experimental social project they have the innate responsibility to showcase as many issues as possible in a limited budget, and looking at the strong opposition from the religious and conservative groups, have little scope of renewal for another season! You cannot portray a show on sex workers with a middle ground if all their lives have majorly been treacherous, so is the lives of gay men in conservative asian societies with much stronger familial ties and obligations. People with slight emotional maturity can very well see the light in the worst of situations, and it has to cater to wide spectrum of gay audience. If I'm able to relate to two issues, other person would relate three other issues portrayed. And you not being a part of the gay community, doesn't give you any right to judge a piece based off its morality and realistic standing. Not saying it has to be a train wreck of tragedies, but rather understand the CREATOR'S INTENT! How would you feel if a straight man judges and decides if a feminist movie showing female ordeals is realistic and morally and culturally upright or not? PERIOD

It's okay, i don't wish to engage in this conversation further as neither of us are willing to understand either of ours perspectives and it isn't moving forward. Every country has its own set of problems and I'm going to stick to the conversation to the gay population and not drag women's and minority issues here. India had never explicitly criminalized gay sex but rather it was an offshoot of the imperial laws that criminalised abnormal sexual activities which even included fellatio and even anal sex between the person of the opposite gender, in which the gay community become the one indirectly affected. South Korea still criminalises same sex activities between soldiers calling it as reciprocal rape even though it is consensual. Conversion therapy is still not explicitly banned whereas in 2021 Madras High court put a complete ban on all sorts conversion therapies. From my friends studying abroad it's apparent that even in friend circle and corporate environment being gay is still a huge taboo in SK than in India, the current youth is relatively progressing quite well, but there's still harsh opposition and denial from the family. So unless you're completely aware of the specific situation in each country it's better not to sit down and compare who fares well. SK may definitely be miles ahead in terms of economy and technology, but the society is still quite conservative. Yes, people's opinions across nations will definitely vary and that's what I'm trying to put across

My point being what did India lacking in any of the east west concept have anything to do with the entire conversation thread we just had???