i had this drama in my list for so long but i haven't watched it because i didn't find it anywhere in high resolution…
It is really worth watching. Tells a lot about humanity, makes you laugh out loud and cry for some characters. Give it a go :) (I'm watching it for the third time now because the actors are crazy good)
Can you summarize the whole drama in short in your own way as spoilers?
The story is about people stuck in an alternate Tokyo, a "new country" in which they have to fight in absurd and deadly games built by their predecessors. As many characters, our main heroes are trying to find their way back to their past lifes.
Games are corresponding with card numbers - which make reference to the English non sense of "Alice in Wonderland" : there are no explanation but cold rules, no moral justice, life is worthless and the warzone is full of crazy characters (with crazy charisma).
Each game has the hidden purpose to question what defines humanity in a very "existentialist" way (show who you are by act, not by thoughts, as the world is about to end) : would you die for your values ? do we need a reason to live ? what is worth sacrificing ?
At the end of the serie, a succesion of explanations are proposed by the Queen of Heart. Each one could be valid, but it's still tricky and finally proven wrong, when our heroes win the game.
The survivors of the game, who had the choice to go back to their world, wake up in an hospital : they all had a cardiac arrest after a meteor hit Tokyo and they had literaly fought to survive in a land between life and death ("Borderlands"), before they were bought back to life. Everyone has forgotten what happened.
BUT : - plot twist when the Joker appears on a table in the garden of the hospital, staring right at the spectators (and filling all the plots holes haha) : who really lead the game ? Are the survivors really in reality ? Are WE in reality, as the wind blew on that table just for us ?
(sorry english is bad and summary isn't short haha) (It's only a point of view, maybe ppl saw many other things in it :))
I didn't understand the first episode lolBut I'm going to w atch all
I think at the end the student who was bullied just gave the wrong title of book to kill all of his classmates - but I don't know if at the end we get the story of the ghost who was a mass kiling teacher or if the ghost borrowed the body of a teacher to mass kill the class :x
Just saw that Tong put a beautiful poetry about "like goes on". I just can't cope with all this anymore. It was a pleasure to know you all ! I'm dropping the serie. Still wish you the best and see you in a non triggering drama place on MDL someday haha :)
Explain me something.. how will you decide he is a changed man? You did not find him tweeting or saying anything…
Taking away his work TEMPORALY and stoping SNS for a while will help him, because he will have the time to think by himself first and find his own solutions + now SNS is a storm full of love and hate, he must stay away from there so people can cool down.
Why don't you understand that it's not only to protect people, but also to protect himself and that's the best way for him to keep his carrier ?
edit "so keyword being make it known what you said is wrong" : I don't understand this sentence, I'm not an english speaker sorry
Explain me something.. how will you decide he is a changed man? You did not find him tweeting or saying anything…
I dunno, for me for example "proof he has change" would be the way he acts. Maybe if he go talk to victims and try to understand what was wrong. Also maybe (but that's only a dream), if he voiced as a popular person to help victims. That'd be hell of a great proof :)
Explain me something.. how will you decide he is a changed man? You did not find him tweeting or saying anything…
"sorry, sorry from bottom of my heart For all my past actions that done it without thinking the result, shitty word, sexual harassment, also joking about gender racist, raping issues, and race racism." - Build quote.
Could you let him be sorry and stop defending him for this kinda long list of "derogatory" things he said ? You're not helping him here. Let him apologize properly and take time to reflect. He himself ask for it.
"I am not trying to find excuses for what he did but"Please we had this discussion a thousand time on MDL, could…
Ok I can't anything more, I'm just tired of people's reaction babying a man who isn't even on this SNS and asking everyone to forgive him because "8 years was a time ago for someone at the age of 18-20. Young adult with the mindset your family and friends put you, you are now starting to develop as a grown human."
Have a good day. edit "asking everyone to forgive him " isn't targetted for you, I know you allow ppl to have opinion, thank you for that.
"I am not trying to find excuses for what he did but"Please we had this discussion a thousand time on MDL, could…
Edit : tw... you are an s/a victim : he said "r*pe is an experience, Yolo.". (among other things) How do you feel ? You still love him as an actor ? I can't.
But I won't threat, just pity. Still would never defend him.
I don't understand you : he even say he must be held accountable for his action, and you still defend him. Let him rest and let people cool down.
8 years was a time ago for someone at the age of 18-20. Young adult with the mindset your family and friends put…
"I am not trying to find excuses for what he did but"
Please we had this discussion a thousand time on MDL, could you stop find excuses for what he did ? Then maybe people will be able to move on and he will be able to grow. Signed : a s/a victim.
Dont people have any other work other than digging for skeletons in others cupboard..It's like in this series…
OR you could understand that the artist didn't choose to forgive himself and you could support him along his path, instead of finding him excuses ?
This is not fiction, this is reality. Of course ppl don't want him to live a life of misery. But if you want society to change and if Build wants to change, he has to reflect. Not sweep under carpet. That's how you grow. And I'm happy that's what he chose to do. (and if you want to stay in fiction : Vegas has to reflect too to grow and be forgotten, that's how it works, he himself said "I'm sorry".)
I WANNA DISCUSS SOMETHING WITH YOU GUYS!!! PLZ DO SHARE WHAT YOU FEEL AS WELL!FIRSTLY, I am proud of BOC. BOC…
"I think a person changes a lot in 8 years, we are human, we make mistakes. So as a human i know i am not perfect so expecting it from others is HYPOCRISY!!! "
We're not talking about beeing perfect here. Let me quote Build himself :
"so sorry, sorry from bottom of my heart For all my past actions that done it without thinking the result, shitty word, sexual harassment, also joking about gender racist, raping issues, and race racism."
Now, this wasn't "mistakes". To grow as a human, he has to take this hard path and reflect, even if it hurts us because we enjoyed his work so much. And we musn't minimize it. It is as it is and it's bad.
As an artist, Build's voice will be more and more important (specially because he is great actor), so I think we can support the path he's taking, but musn't justify his past action as "mistakes". This way, Build can be a great artist AND a great human too.
I'm happy about Boc statement too, I start to like this company a lot :)
Tells a lot about humanity, makes you laugh out loud and cry for some characters.
Give it a go :)
(I'm watching it for the third time now because the actors are crazy good)
Games are corresponding with card numbers - which make reference to the English non sense of "Alice in Wonderland" : there are no explanation but cold rules, no moral justice, life is worthless and the warzone is full of crazy characters (with crazy charisma).
Each game has the hidden purpose to question what defines humanity in a very "existentialist" way (show who you are by act, not by thoughts, as the world is about to end) : would you die for your values ? do we need a reason to live ? what is worth sacrificing ?
At the end of the serie, a succesion of explanations are proposed by the Queen of Heart. Each one could be valid, but it's still tricky and finally proven wrong, when our heroes win the game.
The survivors of the game, who had the choice to go back to their world, wake up in an hospital : they all had a cardiac arrest after a meteor hit Tokyo and they had literaly fought to survive in a land between life and death ("Borderlands"), before they were bought back to life.
Everyone has forgotten what happened.
BUT :
- plot twist when the Joker appears on a table in the garden of the hospital, staring right at the spectators (and filling all the plots holes haha) : who really lead the game ? Are the survivors really in reality ? Are WE in reality, as the wind blew on that table just for us ?
(sorry english is bad and summary isn't short haha)
(It's only a point of view, maybe ppl saw many other things in it :))
- but I don't know if at the end we get the story of the ghost who was a mass kiling teacher or if the ghost borrowed the body of a teacher to mass kill the class :x
I hope you find peace and happiness with next series you like :)
I'm happy to block incel. Buh bye
Had to say this before I leave sorry :<
I just can't cope with all this anymore. It was a pleasure to know you all ! I'm dropping the serie.
Still wish you the best and see you in a non triggering drama place on MDL someday haha :)
Why don't you understand that it's not only to protect people, but also to protect himself and that's the best way for him to keep his carrier ?
edit "so keyword being make it known what you said is wrong" : I don't understand this sentence, I'm not an english speaker sorry
For all my past actions that done it without thinking the result, shitty word, sexual harassment, also joking about gender racist, raping issues, and race racism."
- Build quote.
Could you let him be sorry and stop defending him for this kinda long list of "derogatory" things he said ?
You're not helping him here. Let him apologize properly and take time to reflect.
He himself ask for it.
I'm sorry I reacted harshly cuz the comment of blind fans throwing hearts is starting to hurt weirdly, might get out of SNS for a while haha
Have a good day.
edit "asking everyone to forgive him " isn't targetted for you, I know you allow ppl to have opinion, thank you for that.
you are an s/a victim : he said "r*pe is an experience, Yolo.". (among other things) How do you feel ? You still love him as an actor ? I can't.
But I won't threat, just pity. Still would never defend him.
I don't understand you : he even say he must be held accountable for his action, and you still defend him.
Let him rest and let people cool down.
Please we had this discussion a thousand time on MDL, could you stop find excuses for what he did ?
Then maybe people will be able to move on and he will be able to grow.
Signed : a s/a victim.
This is not fiction, this is reality. Of course ppl don't want him to live a life of misery. But if you want society to change and if Build wants to change, he has to reflect. Not sweep under carpet. That's how you grow. And I'm happy that's what he chose to do.
(and if you want to stay in fiction : Vegas has to reflect too to grow and be forgotten, that's how it works, he himself said "I'm sorry".)
We're not talking about beeing perfect here. Let me quote Build himself :
"so sorry, sorry from bottom of my heart
For all my past actions that done it without thinking the result, shitty word, sexual harassment, also joking about gender racist, raping issues, and race racism."
Now, this wasn't "mistakes".
To grow as a human, he has to take this hard path and reflect, even if it hurts us because we enjoyed his work so much. And we musn't minimize it. It is as it is and it's bad.
As an artist, Build's voice will be more and more important (specially because he is great actor), so I think we can support the path he's taking, but musn't justify his past action as "mistakes". This way, Build can be a great artist AND a great human too.
I'm happy about Boc statement too, I start to like this company a lot :)