Hana

its a 9.0!!!!! woooo hoooooo, i'm so happy T_T

this show has its flaws, but i still think the drama is beautifully written. i just wish the ending was more.... rational?

i feel like this show should extend to 20 episodes, even though thats not gonna happen. its all just happening....so fast and suddenly. i wish they could give things a little bit more time.

no i completely get where u are coming from and i understand from your perspective! its completely okay, everyone has different perspectives and understandings on relationships, i mean it would be pretty boring if everyone had the same opinion, thanks for sharing your thought!❣️

idk, i don't think they are being childish or immature, i don't think bickering about random things can come off as something a 35 shouldn't be doing. its probably because i don't believe in the whole "maturity comes with age" thing. i think as human beings, we are all still maturing and figuring ourselves out, theres no part in life where we don't stop making mistakes. in no way shape or form do i see this relationship as a high school romance, maybe because i am a high schooler myself? i know the relationships my peers have, i don't take high school relationships seriously, it just doesn't come off to me as a high school relationship.

i can see where u are coming from saying that their bickering goes out of the box a lot of times but i genuinely don't see that as a bad thing for the plot, they are a new couple with flaws, they are going to say random shit and still figure eachother out, every couple is different so idk why id expect to change how others try to love and understand eachother.

i think it all just comes down to experience. i'm probably much younger than u so i have a completely different perspective/ experience than what u had :)

ahh my bad! :)

i think its just a matter of taste, some traits that u mentioned for korean dramas are just the sterotype/cliches of the country, just like how America has its own stereotypes/cliches. i personally don't see anything wrong with innocence, as long as its not overplayed, but again, i really don't know what to say because we both have different expectations so i completely get what u mean :)

cliche shows are one of my biggest pet peeves. i hate repeated plots and uncreative, exaggerated loopholes that are completely meaningless.

but this show, it completely changed my heart! i don't skip a scene at all, every moment, every gesture, every emotion from the characters are so precious.the side characters are absolutely well done, they have a purpose, a story, which i don't see in many dramas. the elders are truly the secret spice of this show, they are so darn cute, i just want to hug all of them! ^_^

the romance is beautiful. both of them have unhealthy traits, but what is a couple without flaws? they are truly made for eachother, they share their struggles with one another and are growing with love and grace.

who'd knew i'd fall in love with a rom com taking place in a small island with mostly old people? whatever it is, thank you to the writer for making such a cozy show with characters i won't be able to forget.

so if u are still thinking u want to watch this show or not, trust me, this show is one of those that are unforgettable.❣️

but don't set your standards too high! just sit back and relax, let the scenes go with its flow, when u let go of expectations, u can truly see the beauty of the plot. (in my opinion eheh)

eh, i disagree. i have seen so many american hallmark movies and they don't seem to be as good as korean "hallmark" shows. i do admit, its cliche, but to me, the cliche is done right. its a beautiful rom com with heartwarming people and lessons we can take in.

but again, i guess everyone has a difference in taste, to each their own :)

to me, its not just about the romance, but also who they are and their situation. i think we must try to understand that both of them are recovering and healing from their past traumas, no matter how old we get, we have our struggles and we learn and try to mature from them as much as we can.

their bickering to me is reasonable, i don't expect them to be romantic all the time, no couples will have all healthy traits, thats what makes love so beautiful, that we can share our flaws and try to learn and grow from one another, with love and grace. they struggle as individuals, so imagine what u have to go through when u have to now spend ur time with a partner that is completely different from u in terms of personality and struggles.

just my two cents :)

Yes, we both have different perspectives on what is morally correct or not. I’m sorry for prolonging your time and i hope you did not get offended. Have a good day.

Ah yes, are repeating the same thing. He never followed and creeped on the Jugyeong, what? His whole arc was never to provoke Jugyeong. Even in the first episodes he never creeped on and provoked her, u are are just saying the same sentence over and over again.

The sml in this drama is provoking and annoying female by never leaving alone, taking her on forced dates. The only thing seojun did was act like a close friend to Jugyeong to get back at suho, but that was only in the first two episodes and only like 4 scenes throughout, he never cared anymore and actually developed a liking for her. His actions are in no way provoking or using Jugyeong. Its probably because i am a teenager, which is why i can understand Seojun.

I read that comment long ago (Prettyelsiablah) and i dismissed it because prettyelsiablah had a point. She
said that he was not similar like the sml in this drama. You went on to say that it was just because Seojun was not you type and i understood that but then i read the other OP’s comment and thats where i questioned your thinking because you replied with how he is similar to the SML by using her as a tool, but i simply dont see that connection nor action that u said seojun did.

But you know what, you are right. This discussion has been going on for too long. There is no point going on about something that has two complete different meanings to us. Agree to disagree.

So your explanation is that you would be uncomfortable if a guy gets close to you with such an intention in mind? But what i have been asking you this whole time, and only thing i have been asking, and ... is what did Seoujun do that made Jugyeong physically and mentally uncomfortable because he supposedly provoked her? Wait let me switch this up, why did seojun want to get close to her in the first place? He never wished to get close to her. He never had the the intention of getting close to her. His intention was to make Suho mad. To make him jealous. Why? Because he loved her as well. He never did anything to Jugyeong where he used her as a tool to get back at Suho. He actually liked her as their families got close, which made him and Jugyeong get close, which ended up being a rivalry between two boys in liking a girl. I just dont see a reason to your
explanation because u havent given
any context to it.

The only person i see that Seojun provoked was Suho, not Jugyeong..

When you put your comment in front of the whole word with little to no context, people will question and comment about your thinking. You did not even say that u dont like Seojun in terms of him being your love interest. When that user said that people like Seojun because hes not rude and disrespectful, you said that your first impression of him is what makes you not like him.... you know what that sounds like? It sounds like you dislike him as a whole character, as someone you push your prejudice into. Someone who, you dislike because of what you thought of him at first.

So Whether it was your intention or not, you did in fact twist up your words, you were never clear with it, which is why i questioned your comment in the first place. And so did the other twi users as well.

So im sorry that you think im judging you, when really the only thing im doing is asking u the same thing but u haven’t given a solid response. U always change up your answers and repeat them.

What difference? Give me you explanation since to you its obvious.

Your take was how Seojun treated Jugyeong as tool, do you know what the definition of treating someone as a tool is? Even at the start Seojun was not like that compared to the SML in this drama. He had issues but there was no alignment with the SML here. Literally what did he do that upsetted or meddled with Jugyeons privacy huh? He only got closer with her because their families were close so they started becoming friends.

In real life, i wouldn't mind Seojun as my friend.

I already said in my old comment that i am ready to warm up to the SML In this drama if he starts treating Dam and every other women/people with respect (through his actions)

If you said that you don't like Seojun because he's nothour type, because he is sort of a bad hyper active guy and you don't like how he acted sometimes, that would make sense. But you didn't. You came up with something different, you said you disliked him because he is similar to the SML in this drama who treats women like absolute trash. Do you understand what similarity you put? Its obvious people started correcting you.

I never misinterpreted anything, you are the one twist your words.

Now you are saying that you liked Seojun in the later episodes but in your original comment, you clearly said that you don't like the SML, because he reminds you of Seojun, because to you they treated the FL as a tool. However, as i have said multiple times, theres no way he treated Jugyeong as a tool and i even asked you why do you think he treated her like a tool. You said first impression is why you dislike him and i said that first impression does not reveal full character of someone. And now you are saying you liked him in the later episodes, your words now and before don't add up.

The only reason i can see why you don't like Seojun is because he is not your type, and that is fine!

It went up 8.7!!! I knew MDL was acting in error :)))

Special glasses? Giving excuse? What excuse? I look at a character as a whole. I don't judge or give a negative rate to a character because they acted immature at times. Suho acted immature at times but did i judge him as a whole character, as a whole human being? no. I loved Suho! Even if he was not my type, even after he gave me negative first impression. Because for me, its wrong to judge a human being from one sided perspective.

Seojun never did anything to Jugyeong, she loved him as a friend, fair and sqaure. You haven't given any explanation to how he is similar to the SML and how he treated Jugyeong as a "tool"

I have already given multiple explanations on why he his not similar to the SML in this drama. They both have complete different hearts and morals.

I didn't give any points, its obvious and you don't have to be a genius to understand that Seojun and the SML in this drama are not similar (in terms of morals). The only similarity i see is that they are bad boy type, but the SML in this drama is bad boy type in a negative way, but Seojun was a bad boy who had a good heart and treated everyone with respect. Yes, he treated Suho harshly at first but he learned and grew from his mistake, Suho forgave him and he realized his wrong and changed for the better. If the SML in this drama also changes for the better and acts upon it, i will see him as a better character (but that can only happen if he shows it by his actions)

There is no point in arguing about this because you are just repeating the same thing and haven't come with a rightful explanation why you dislike Seojun. He is just not your type, thats what i assume.

But i simply don't care, if you want to think the way you think, go ahead.

The reason why i'm upset with the SML in this drama is that he treats every women he has encountered and dated as puppets who he can just play with. Every single women he was dated, he has left. He also is rude to every one and acts arrogant. He follows around Lee Dam and ruins her privacy when she clearly showed that she didnt want him.

The only person Seojun was upset with was Suho, he never meddled with Jugyeongs private life. The only reason he got associated with Jugyeongs private life later on was because his families were close. He never did anything or said anything that hurt Jugyeong. He only meddled with her at the cafteria when they ate and one time outside to make Jugyeon jealous, besides those two scenes, he treated her with respect. He never came in between her and Suhos relationship and he was happy for them and wanted the best for them, even when he had beef with Suho. They started becoming close friends and Jugyeong was completely fine with him, she actually looked as Seojun as a close friend whom she can talk to about her problems. So what makes you think he treated her like a tool when Jugyeong looked at Seojun as a close friend?

Lee Dam does not feel how Jugyeong felt, Lee Dam is hurt and annoyed by the SML because he cant protect his boundaries. Lee Dam does not look at him as a friend, Seojun did not go up to Jugyeong and demand her to go out with him, thats what the SML did in this Drama. You haven't given any reason how he affected Jugyeong negatively. The only scene i can come up with where he treated Jugyeong negatively was in the last episodes when she rejected him, besides that, Jugyeong loved Seojun dearly as a friend.

Also you said that you would hate if a men started meddling with your privacy, well thats what the MLs did as well. Both Suho and the Gumiho in this drama got into a females private life. As long as the female is not hurt and she gives the male consent to be associated with her, theres nothing wrong with it, which is why i hate the SML in this drama.

no? a relationship is supposed to mutual. i can see why u could see the sml and fl together but if the relationship is not mutual and the sml is treating women like objects, how can u say that? so far, personally, i see a lot of connection with the fl and ml. they like eachother and treat one another very lovingly.

When you used the SML in this drama as a comparison with the SML in True Beauty, it does come off as negative. Whether you meant it to make him look like a jerk or not, the whole idea of using a women as a tool is systematically wrong and makes others think that the person you are describing is disgusting.

I personally don't see how a first impression of a character can be justifiable. But i'm not forcing my opinion on you, i am just trying to explain to you that a comparison with the SML in this drama (who is very selfish, looks at women as toys, and does not care of others) can't be compared with an SML (who did not look at women as toys, he just had anger issues with Suho in the beginning )

I don't know exactly know why you think that the SML in True beauty used the female as a toy. Revenge was associated with Suho, not Jugyeong. He systematically did not do anything that hurt Jugyeong or any other women, however if you'd like to think that way, go ahead, just be open minded.

However, its not my place to tell you how you should feel, but i think it is my place to talk about why i think its unjustifiable.

Anyways, i don't care, i just wanted to share my thoughts, you do you.

As much as i would like to agree with your comment, theres a lot of one sided perspective. The SML here is completely different from the SML in True Beauty. Seojun never used Jugyeong as tool lmao, he just started off like that in the beginning but he never meddled with Jugyeongs feelings to get back with Suho. He never harmed her in anyway, what has he done to harm her or ruin her privacy? So far from what i remember, he would give her advice and wished the best for her and Suhos relationship, even if he was a bit jealous and hurt inside.

I could understand why you found Seojun annoying, but he had moral and love unlike the SML in this drama who only thinks for himself. However, Instead of looking at him as some sort of jerk, Seojun could have been probably not your type, which is completely okay. The first impression of a character is not who the character truly is. Seojun had issues in the beginning but he had good in him, and improved as a human being.

In the end, both Seojun and Suho were good humans whom you dont see in a lot of Kdramas. I agree that the OP whom you are arguing with, is wrong for bringing up Suho. The only reason for all the fights in the True Beauty comment section was most likely because of different types. Some viewers liked Suhos character calm and timid character more, others liked Seojuns outgoing and badass character more. It was very childish, i do admit.

Sorry for bringing an old kdrama again, whom me and you both participated in the same time. But you brought up an old character and it looks like an argument started, so i replied :)