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😭😭😭 NO SAME!! It's so annoying!! And I wanna try making something for them too but I need more scenes and I need to check smth (HOPEFULLY NEXT EPISODE WILL GIMME WHAT I WANT), and then I'd possibly get to editing, I have one too many ideas plaguing my brain

Truly. One minute I'm pulling my hair in frustration of trying to make sense of things, and the next I'm tearing up thinking about how, in a way, they have been doomed by the narrative since the beginning.

And it's so hard to find edits on YouTube now, idk why?? Like I'm getting unrelated results and it's been irking me.

tysm, i will go sit in the corner and cry now 🫡

hiiii im looking for greattyme edits, can someone share some?? 🥺

Ah, why do you need enemies when you have friends like Park Tae Hyung. That guy keeps getting on my nerves.

Yeah, thought I'd pop back in after EP 6 drops hehe

I hope putting it off like this was a choice and not an issue with pacing or something. That is if Title is actually the victim. But given how this drama tends to take the obvious way out (like I was so surprised it was actually Tongkla who shot Great like 😭), it'd possibly be Tle. But then again everything seems unpredictable 🥲 and With two episodes remaining, I wonder what all will happen.. so many questions still unanswered.. sigh

Maybe because, as many are theorizing, Tle might be Fasai's brother? That'll complicate a lof of things so maybe they're going to deal with it all in one ep? Idk at this point but yeah, it is super sus, it's gonna be one hell of a twist if it's actually Korn XD

Possibly, I see my timing has been terribly bad 😭Like the call is coming from inside the house (fandom) because I used to be a Bible stan, Vegas was one of my favourite characters before all that shit went down 😭HELL, THE ONLY KP EDIT I EVER MADE WAS FOR VEGAS, OKAY 😭I stopped following everything related to KP after You Know Who drama happened because it was really.. so disappointing. And I was so excited to be back here because I could watch something with Bible again, and I absolutely adore Sammon's storytelling so you know I'll be sat (though I'll accept it is a bit lacking in this drama).

Right now, I am too old to stan any male celebrities knowing how, well, at the end of the day, they are still men. That's why the grown ass man comment, I wasn't trying to hate on Bib or something 😭 I just talk about men like that and I do not like how BL stans, in general, like to bubble wrap their favs as if they are puppies that do not know how to protect themselves. Because, let's face it. More than half of these men come from a wealthy background, they possibly make twice the money than their fans, they are capable of taking action if they are in harm. You can support them, of course, but like.. it is good to be aware that they are men with influence, and they are men doing a job which a lot of people fail to see.

And the funniest thing would be that I'm actually here for GreatTyme (and the PLOT, I LOVE COMPLEX PLOTS) 😭. I literally have an entire flowchart dedicated to Great and Tyme's relationship development in and out of the dreamscape timeline, and I wanted to share that here once I was done polishing it but now haha not so much. But I also love Bas as an actor, and I adore Tongkla's character (idk much about Fuaiz). So, I will definitely be talking about them too, and defending them because it seems like a lot of people love to hate them. I'm not even going to start about the type of comments I came across twt, because yeah. Twt is a cesspool. SO THAT PISSES ME OFF. I am someone who plays both sides, I love all the characters, all the ships, all the nuances, everything, just give it to me.

But yeah, I would never call someone crazy for defending fictional characters because defending fictional characters and stories is basically my job (I'm a literature major 😭) but I will call out people for babying BL actors and defending or giving attention to problematic men. I've lost one too many fandom friends because of You Know Who, so yeah, that pos is quite a sensitive topic for me :))

Oh. OH. OH WAIT. Cult as in the fandom sense of the word, not the.. crazy, fanatic, delulu kinda thing omg😭WAIT DID IT COME ACROSS AS I WAS CALLING YALL CRAZY FOR DEFENDING YOUR FICTIONAL POOKIES? OMFG THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION LET ME REREAD

That seems like an unpopular opinion here, and trying to ask people to do that is apparently banishing them from this site, so I don't think there's any use in talking about.

I didn't mean it personally, it was aimed at all of those comments I have seen (which is why I prefaced the post like that but I guess it wasn't enough to elaborate on the context), and I do appreciate you for not talking to that one person who directly mentioned you and was trying to start shit about You Know Who. Anyways, maybe I didn't provide enough context and the timing of this was wrong, I wanted to say stuff yesterday but I was busy, so I thought I'd say it today, but that was clearly a bad choice. Anyways, this was the last time I wanted to mention it. You won't be seeing me in the comment section with anything related to this again.

Did I say that was the right thing to do? Before I could even say anything there, that situation had already escalated. But I will speak on it in another comment.

And if by asking people to shift this conversation to the Forums (which is on this site) if it were to happen again, asking people to use CW while talking about an abuser or his relationship to one of the leads (in this comment section), if it means I am trying to banish people off this website, that was not my intention. You are right that this is a free space to comment about drama, drama related topics, and actor interviews. But there will be problems and people will talk when you mention actors unrelated to this drama, their stans, and issues those stans have created bc one of the leads used to be their co-star. Which is why I talked about CW besides mentioning twt.

Oh, don't worry because I am making an entirely different comment related to that. An also fandom and delulu stuff in general. I have been meaning to do it for a while now, since I have seen similar comments, especially the one that used Burning Sun Scandal and celebrity gossip in the same line (I understand the intent was to tell people not be blindly follow celebrities, but it was way too tone deaf and apolitical for my liking), so yes, I will be talking!!

@Mimi (I wrote this before I realized you blocked me)

If you read closely, the beginning of my post has these words : "I will say this just one time." What I meant by that is that I'm acknowledging all these different issues that have happened on here for one last time. That is where the "Old News" comes from — if the context wasn't clear enough for you. And thank you for pointing out there's a block button, but I have not blocked you and some other people yet because yall do have some good opinions regarding the drama, and I do enjoy reading that and wanted to keep reading it, but yeah, if we're going to be like this. I'll just start blocking.

And I already explained why the old sexuality news came up again, because I'm summarizing all that I've encountered on this drama page because this is the last time I will be speaking on this.

And about NC scenes, I am not talking about the comments that sheds light on how sexuality and sexual themes are used as a plot device to explore the characters' psyche and relationship dynamics here. I am talking about comments that measure the gap between lips, compared an actor to a sex doll, and another where someone was speculating if one of the actors had ever been penetrated in his life. What is the use for comments like these? How exactly are they helping us in understanding the drama better? If you think those are important, then I apologize because I will not and do not want to understand comments regarding actors like that.

Okay, I thought my MDL app was acting up, I was typing this as I was reading your reply and I just read your whole comment and saw you blocked me. Well. Whatever helps you. I won't be using my time to explain this further nor talk about this anymore. As I mentioned, this was the last time I wanted to address this situation.

So, I was not going to talk about this issue but the comments are clogged with these kinda discussions every now and then, that it has become hard not to ignore. So, I will say this just one time. Multiple people have mentioned several times about how they are not comfortable with conversations about You Know Who and yet many people (not just his stans) continue to mention his name in the page of a drama that is no longer related to him. And it is tiring to see that.

And of course, yes, everyone has the right to express their opinions on here. But I do believe there is a separate time and place for discussing fandom issues that are outside the scope of this drama (like the co-star of the lead actor and what his stans do). Like Twitter is right there. (And if you want to further keep talking about these things, maybe use content warnings on top of your comments, heck, maybe even Trigger Warning when it comes to That Man because That Man does really trigger some of us here, lol).

Now, I understand the concern yall have for Bible.. I really do, but Bible is a grown ass man with a legal and PR team at his disposal, he will handle things if it gets too much for him. All some of you are doing is spreading the fan war to places where it does not belong. And that too a fan war with a fandom that has proved itself to survive on a single braincell, and do you seriously expect to reason with people like that who support a racist, misogynistic, rape apologist, abusive piece of shit?

Like, I have that man's name and everything related to him muted on Twitter and all other socmed platforms. I have lost the patience to listen to that pos after the second Notes App apology. I really do not wish to see anything that has to do with him and his fans, that is one reason why I left the kptwt and been keeping my distance ever since. But I was excited for this new drama but seeing how Twitter was plagued with the same old discourse, I decided to stick to MDL and Tumblr because these spaces are predominantly focused on analyzing dramas and sharing opinions. So, imagine my annoyance when I have to see this whole bs going on here too. It is honestly tiring and frustrating to say the least.

I firmly believe the comment section of this page is not suitable such fandom discourses. These kinda conversations usually happen on other socmed platforms, LIKE TWITTER IS RIGHT THERE!! Or at least put content warnings because MDL does not offer a filter option for comments. Or make a new topic in the discussions tab, or maybe move these conversations to the forums or something, idk.

And friendly reminder to some other people: maybe don't speculate actor's sexualities based on artistic choices that were not even theirs to make. Also, maybe have a little bit of respect on the actors while explaining in EXCRUTIATING detail the NC scenes (that is - oversexualisation - comparing them to sex dolls, and speculating if an actor has ever been penetrated because the acting in certain scenes were apparently very bad).

I've also noticed people in the comments who are not interested in talking about celebrities at all, people who are more focused on the drama in its whole, so I think we should take their comfort into consideration too. Because at the end of the day, just because he is the lead, does not mean the whole drama revolves around Bible as a celebrity. (Bible as an actor, yes, but not as a celebrity - that is stuff not related to 4 Minutes - that is stuff related to his ex fricking co star and fans).

And please respect Sammon, it is tiring seeing people call her names. I'm not talking about valid criticism but stuff like shaming her appearance and character which is totally not true and uncalled for. Also other actors too. Please maintain some decorum if you can. I'm saying this because drama comment sections are for public discussions, and are often frequented by the general public and drama enthusiasts, and it is not just for fandom goers. You can maybe move these kinda discussions to the forums or discussion topics and keep the comment section in the drama pages only for discussions related to the drama.

Now. If they don't start answering some of these questions in the next episode, I'm going to start believing that a lot of these things are just plot holes (and technical errors).

I have quite a few in mind but I'll just keep it to myself until the next episode airs. I was rewatching the last episode.. and as much as I agree that it was one of the best episodes so far, the people who pointed out that this episode didn't offer anything new are right. This episode really was just elaborating on the stuff we already knew.. It felt as if the episode offered so much yet so little at the same time. Emotionally, I was on the edge of my seat and teared up at quite a few places (from Nan's story to the stuff between Great and his Mom, even that little peck in the car made my eyes water).

But now that I start thinking about how this all fits in grand scheme of things, I really feel like I am back to square one. DONT GET ME WRONG, I love dramas that slowly build suspense and keep me guessing. But there is a limit to keep guessing when they do not provide any new information at all and keep going round and round. Or maybe I read one too many fan theories that were better than what is actually happening in the drama rn, lol. So if they don't really chop chop and answer some of the important questions that have been repeatedly asked, at least in the next episode, I might put this on hold for now and binge the rest when the last episode airs (praying to the drama lords for a few drops of self control).

And how does that make him homophobic? There are actors who get high to get roles done. It is upto them how they choose to approach the execution of a role or a scene.

Besides. The script, the director, and the intimacy coordinator all exist for a reason. Even if the actors can improvise, they're expected to stick to what the script demands of them. You are accusing an actor of being homophobic based on ARTISTIC CHOICES that weren't even solely his to make.

If you have clips or reports of him explicitly saying or doing something outright homophobic, bring that. Then we'll talk. I do not want to speculate stuff about how he is in REAL LIFE based on a few scenes in a drama where he is ACTING.

i made a whole flowchart thingie for the plot 😭😭 might share it tumblr or twt later, i'll share the link if i do post hehe

I don't think Jes would agree to eating ass on screen if he was homophobic, but that's just me. He's already an established Lakorn actor with a good number of roles under his belt, so he is not in this solely for the bag and coins. Maybe instead of being concerned about what air passes through other's asses, you try taking your head out of your own ass and look at why short pecks made more sense in these scenes instead of having them shove their tongues down each other's throat.

That too. That is the obvious theory, that's why I didn't mention it, lol. Seeing things that aren't real = him hallucinating because of his substance abuse or mental health. But the other possibilities cannot be ignored because the screenwriter has already mentioned the drama will include Spirits and some supernatural elements, so people have been contemplating. And OP asked about what people were talking about, hence, I just told them about what people were talking about: which were the timelines merging.