Can someone explain the black cat stuff that people are talking about to me? I might not have paid enough attention,…
The black cat first appears in EP 1. When Korn leaves after he gets the call, Tongkla is left alone all over again. While he's sitting there on the coach, he must have felt that someone was watching him and turned around to see a black cat staring at him. The cat runs away the moment Tongkla noticed it. The scene is also accompanied by lightning and thunder which gives an eerie and ominous feeling to the whole ordeal.
The black cat appears for the second time in EP 4 in Tongkla's flashback where he is thinking about the time he met Korn in Uni. Tongkla was burying his dead cat in the campus yard. He said he wanted to bury the cat away from his home, away from the person who killed it. This shows that the cat has been long dead. So the cat that appeared in EP 1 has been dead a long time ago and it isn't possible for that cat to show up like that.
It is speculated that Tongkla can see/hear things because he sees/hear his dead cat and his dead brother. So, he's either seeing things that aren't real or that the timelines are merging. People are coming up with various theories about the Cat and Tongkla's timeline.. but nothing can be confirmed as of why this is happening.
So far, I've seen people diagnose Tongkla with DID, Schizophrenia, and Munchausen Syndrome and I feel like we're losing the plot at this point 😭😭Next EP better be giving us some good answers. seriously.
I saw quite a few people talking about it on Tumblr, but I couldn't make sense of anything 🥲
Ah, that's true.. there were some on twt too, but i dont rmb seeing anything here. I guess it is about time we started talking about the possibilities of the two timelines bleeding into each other XD
Aniwat is Tonkla!! we don't really know anything about his past... He seems a bit mentally unstable so anything…
That is true.. I've been seeing people say Tonkla could have DID and isn't aware that he killed his cat and possibly his own brother and it's confusing 😭
Initially I thought the rock was found from the second murder scene, but when I went back and watched, it was found from the first murder scene. There is no mention of any rock being found in second murder scene, however, in the beginning of EP 4, the dialogue and scenes overlap in a way that suggests the rock was found in the second murder scene.. I was under the firm belief that the second body belonged to Title as he was killed by Kla for revenge, but I'm wavering about that theory now. But this could also mean that the events surrounding Kla are also not linear and might have two timelines... So the rock could've been found in the second scene....... Ugh man, this is so confusing, I hope they start putting this show together in the next EPs 😭😭
This might be nitpicking but I could not stop thinking about this. Can someone tell me why they mention fingerprint database in the beginning of EP 4? The forensic person who called Win had mentioned that the fingerprints found on the rock had matched with the fingerprints of someone in their database and that person was Anuwat. As far as I know, these databases are used to keep records of previous convicts/ people with a history of crime. Is there any other database or some other information that I'm missing? Could someone tell me because I've started thinking stuff like Anuwat (who is possibly Tongkla) has already been involved in some kinda crime before 😭
Also (hehe, I'm sorry to bother you with my long replies 😭) did you see what Sammon tweeted today? 11:04 and EP 8.... Which was making me wonder if the dreamscape/altered timeline is going to go on until the final EP 😭😭 i thought it'd end before that... But if really ends on EP 8, will we get a happy ending.... 🥲
I really hope they start piecing things together because, at this point, I'm starting to feel some of these things are just plot holes and technical errors 😭 But I believe in Sammon, so I really, really wish I'll be proven wrong about this🤧
AND I HAD THE SAME DOUBT!!! Like why are you working on a case you've been removed from. And when Kla asks him the same question during the funeral, Win just says that he is still looking for evidence. But that does not explain why the Chief is asking him for forensic details on the case? Or is the Chief asking that because Win is only in the process of transferring the case files over to the Chief and he is still wrapping up his part before handing over the case..
Or.. removing him from the case meant that he was removed only from leading the case and he still gets to play a small role?? But that feels like a stretch, so I don't think that'll be it. The possible logical explanation is that the rock is related to Body #2 but then again the rock wasn't found there... but I also do feel like both the cases would be investigated together than separately because both the bodies showed up at the same place with same Modus Operandi.. so idk if Win will be allowed to work on the second case either...
And if the Body #2 is Title... And the Chief was initially bribed by Title and the death threat Win received was also by Title.. then who is bribing the Chief now if Title is dead... (His family? Or was the second victim even Title to begin with....) I remember Win telling Kla that his brother's murderer might be from an affluent family, and I did for sometime think that Tongkla was collecting all these info from Win before finding that Title killed Dome and went and killed Title to get revenge... But I'm not so sure anymore....
Anyways,.. one thing I can tell for sure is that Win has decided to really hang onto his promise of solving the case for Kla..
And about the timeline regarding Kla, I'm totally lost. Like that is the thing that is preventing me from actually understanding this drama 😭😭😭 When I feel like I've gotten an inkling of what is happening with Great, Tongkla shows up as an anomaly and all my theories become a house of cards 🤧 I just hope they start giving us more answers in the next episodes bc I really can't wait anymore 😭😭😭
Wait, Win finds the rock in the middle of EP 2, right? While the first body is being carried away, he looks around and finds the rock. Following that scene, he meets with Tongkla who has come to identify the body (which means that body was Dome's).
In the beginning of EP 3, they just find another victim murdered with the same Modus Operandi but no rock had been found as far as I remember.. It is also mentioned that this could be revenge killing or serial killing.. but I don't remember a rock being found in the beginning of EP 3.. But in EP 4, the dialogue and scenes overlap in a way that suggests that the rock was found at the second murder scene, which also got me confused.. But as far as I know, the rock is from the first murder scene.. I could be wrong, tho.. 😭😭
Another thing I noticed is that the forensic person who called Win mentioned that the finger prints found on the rock matches with finger prints of a person in their "Database." As far as I know, these Databases consist of information of previous convicts/people with a history of crime. Which means Anuwat already has been reported for some crime? Maybe? Now I could be wrong and this might refer to a civilian database or something like that??? idk tbh... but.. having watched a lot of crime stuff, this is how my mind connected the mention of databases 😭😭 Sooooooo... yeah, idk where this is going 😭😭😭
Other than that.. I also do think that Win was not aware of Tonkla's actions.. and the time period between the two murders is not mentioned, so it is hard to speculate... but then again the way Win was staring into oblivion in that one scene is.. kinda sus.
Could be there is always something lost in translation. But what is it about lukwa you find different
I AOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THE BRAIN DUMP 😭😭😭 okay so idk if it is an instance of me misinterpreting things but in EP 1, Lukwa said that she went onto live her life as usual and wasn't even aware that she having an NDE (except for seeing 4 mins into the future)... but in EP 4, she says she remembers entering another room and someone else (Great?) was there. It made me confused if the scene in that room was something that actually happened in the first timeline/real world and if Great and Lukwa has met before.. or if they were crossing paths in the dreamscape/alternate universe/ current timeline. I know I'm thinking too much into this than needed 😭😭 but I'm developing crazy theories like that room could be like a meeting point for everyone entering the limbo or smth shhsjsjsndn at this point, my brain is mush aaaaa sorry for the rant 😭😭😭
Do you guys think that there is something off about the subtitles? I have a feeling that some things have been lost in translation. This feeling is strong when it comes to Lukwa. I was really confused by her words.. I wonder if it is a translation issue or perhaps a plothole??? I feel like what she said in EP 1 and EP 4 does not match up... Ah, I'll try to put my thoughts into words later, but this is something that has been bothering me for a while now 😭😭😭
As much as I agree with the criticism related to GreatTyme NC scene, some of you are taking things too far. Like, tell me why did I see a comment comparing Bible to a "very limited sex doll" ???
We don't know if these were the creative choices made for the characters or if Bible was just objectively bad in that scene. And so what if he was bad? Just say that instead of saying stuff like "Bible was never p*netrated in his life." Some of you are becoming way too comfortable on here. I don't have a problem with people nitpicking NC scenes, but for fuck's sake, don't objectify these actors to the point that you are comparing them to sex dolls. That is disgusting.
This really is one of the prettiest cdramas out there, and I absolutely loved the colours in this so I had to make a le monde edit for it!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqu63YiUMcs
K-Drama 
The black cat appears for the second time in EP 4 in Tongkla's flashback where he is thinking about the time he met Korn in Uni. Tongkla was burying his dead cat in the campus yard. He said he wanted to bury the cat away from his home, away from the person who killed it. This shows that the cat has been long dead. So the cat that appeared in EP 1 has been dead a long time ago and it isn't possible for that cat to show up like that.
It is speculated that Tongkla can see/hear things because he sees/hear his dead cat and his dead brother. So, he's either seeing things that aren't real or that the timelines are merging. People are coming up with various theories about the Cat and Tongkla's timeline.. but nothing can be confirmed as of why this is happening.
https://www.tumblr.com/tbhimnoteasyonmyself/759187742389338112/4-minutes-theory
Initially I thought the rock was found from the second murder scene, but when I went back and watched, it was found from the first murder scene. There is no mention of any rock being found in second murder scene, however, in the beginning of EP 4, the dialogue and scenes overlap in a way that suggests the rock was found in the second murder scene.. I was under the firm belief that the second body belonged to Title as he was killed by Kla for revenge, but I'm wavering about that theory now. But this could also mean that the events surrounding Kla are also not linear and might have two timelines... So the rock could've been found in the second scene....... Ugh man, this is so confusing, I hope they start putting this show together in the next EPs 😭😭
AND I HAD THE SAME DOUBT!!! Like why are you working on a case you've been removed from. And when Kla asks him the same question during the funeral, Win just says that he is still looking for evidence. But that does not explain why the Chief is asking him for forensic details on the case? Or is the Chief asking that because Win is only in the process of transferring the case files over to the Chief and he is still wrapping up his part before handing over the case..
Or.. removing him from the case meant that he was removed only from leading the case and he still gets to play a small role?? But that feels like a stretch, so I don't think that'll be it. The possible logical explanation is that the rock is related to Body #2 but then again the rock wasn't found there... but I also do feel like both the cases would be investigated together than separately because both the bodies showed up at the same place with same Modus Operandi.. so idk if Win will be allowed to work on the second case either...
And if the Body #2 is Title... And the Chief was initially bribed by Title and the death threat Win received was also by Title.. then who is bribing the Chief now if Title is dead... (His family? Or was the second victim even Title to begin with....) I remember Win telling Kla that his brother's murderer might be from an affluent family, and I did for sometime think that Tongkla was collecting all these info from Win before finding that Title killed Dome and went and killed Title to get revenge... But I'm not so sure anymore....
Anyways,.. one thing I can tell for sure is that Win has decided to really hang onto his promise of solving the case for Kla..
And about the timeline regarding Kla, I'm totally lost. Like that is the thing that is preventing me from actually understanding this drama 😭😭😭 When I feel like I've gotten an inkling of what is happening with Great, Tongkla shows up as an anomaly and all my theories become a house of cards 🤧 I just hope they start giving us more answers in the next episodes bc I really can't wait anymore 😭😭😭
In the beginning of EP 3, they just find another victim murdered with the same Modus Operandi but no rock had been found as far as I remember.. It is also mentioned that this could be revenge killing or serial killing.. but I don't remember a rock being found in the beginning of EP 3.. But in EP 4, the dialogue and scenes overlap in a way that suggests that the rock was found at the second murder scene, which also got me confused.. But as far as I know, the rock is from the first murder scene.. I could be wrong, tho.. 😭😭
Another thing I noticed is that the forensic person who called Win mentioned that the finger prints found on the rock matches with finger prints of a person in their "Database." As far as I know, these Databases consist of information of previous convicts/people with a history of crime. Which means Anuwat already has been reported for some crime? Maybe? Now I could be wrong and this might refer to a civilian database or something like that??? idk tbh... but.. having watched a lot of crime stuff, this is how my mind connected the mention of databases 😭😭 Sooooooo... yeah, idk where this is going 😭😭😭
Other than that.. I also do think that Win was not aware of Tonkla's actions.. and the time period between the two murders is not mentioned, so it is hard to speculate... but then again the way Win was staring into oblivion in that one scene is.. kinda sus.
We don't know if these were the creative choices made for the characters or if Bible was just objectively bad in that scene. And so what if he was bad? Just say that instead of saying stuff like "Bible was never p*netrated in his life." Some of you are becoming way too comfortable on here. I don't have a problem with people nitpicking NC scenes, but for fuck's sake, don't objectify these actors to the point that you are comparing them to sex dolls. That is disgusting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqu63YiUMcs
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