Jenny

Yeah ofcourse. I would only say such things cause it's a drama. In real life no matter how good looking someone is evil things done by such people is unforgivable.

Yep I'm talking about him! I don't know about others but to me he doesn't look like a villian as he looks somewhat innocent (maybe it's just me) so the contrast between his look and character is very appealing to me. I think the kdrama industry wants audience to obsess over villians too especially after seeing how viral the villian from strong girl nam soon became or maybe they are just fulfilling the demands of audience. Anyways this drama has all my attention.

Just like some people understand things quickly after hearing it once some struggles even after working hard to understand. I think he is the later type of person.

Handsome heroes, I do understand the reason for having handsome heroes but why are villains handsome too in kdramas?! Is it to confuse audience if they should hate them or love them??!😭. I find the villian of this drama so handsome that I feel complicated🫠

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Nope I don't want to be labelled or label others.

Yeah, I know. I'm sorry I was just spouting nonsense 😂. I think I'm just bored and wanted to have conversation. I did adress it to you but also addressed it to me. No worries I know we all have our own opinions. I just wanted to remind you so that we won't fall back again in what's right or what's wrong convo. If you felt offended or sad I apologise.

Cause everyone in this comment section seems to want to be moral police.

I'm not calling you moral police, it's for everyone who tries to be, I said we as in whoever is reading this comment and wants to be a moral police. That doesn't just include you, it also includes me and many others. If I had wanted to say it to you I would have directly addressed it to you. Also, even if I did adress it to you, I didn't mean it negatively cause I know you are just curious.

As I said, we have different opinions and it depends on situation but yes I won't consider it as cheating. I'm not saying it negatively but we shouldn't be moral police when we all have different moral scales and rights and wrongs.

Having a partner who is wholly devoted to you and satisfies your emotional and physical needs but you are just a lustful **** (add whatever curse you want) and go around having affair with other people is what I consider cheating. It also depends on situation though just like in this series. Especially doing this when your partner hasn't done anything wrong is cheating to me.

Well, whatever. Your opinion is your opinion, mine is mine so I won't bother arguing.

Ikr. We can't just blame the MLs for not communicating cause even after seeing the MLs struggling their partners didn't feel the need to explain themselves. Man
would have stopped making attempts on her if she had clearly told her problem to him and then maybe they would have reached an agreement.
Also I think that fuji won't let sei be in open relationship or let sei leave him based on how jealous he looks just by sei associating with other people so communicating with him about open relationship feels out of question to me. He really looks like a control freak.

And that's what I'm saying is that they themself didn't see it coming. It's not that sei didn't communicate but whenever he brings that topic fuji brushes him off. It's fuji who doesn't want to communicate as he runs away whenever sei brings up that topic. As for hagiwara, as I said in the last scene he looked so frustrated, while feeling myriads of emotions how do you expect him to communicate? When he saw the glass given by sei in their living room that's when he thought about sei and messaged him. Should he have went back and said to her 'I'm off to have sex with someone else' and then storm off as he felt so frustrated? Does that count as communication? Man is not in his right mind as he doesn't even know what to say to sei at a such time you want him to calmly communicate with the one who is making him feel all these things? And we still don't even know if they decided to have sex while being on phone or after meeting eachother (I might be wrong). From the start they had not wanted open relationship as they were waiting for their partners but unexpectedly they met eachother and became close so discussing open relationship from the start is out of question.

People saying 'cheating this, cheating that' when even MLs wouldn't have known that they would take such a step. They have been patient but in 4th ep they got to their breaking point. In the last scene hagiwara looked so frustrated and in despair that he didn't even know what to say. He wanted to share his feelings, his misery to the only person who understands him and also vent his frustration on him cause they both are in same situation so both of them wants to vent it. They can't just communicate with their partners when they themselves didn't see it coming. And I feel like if sei tried to leave fuji, fuji won't let him leave at any cost. (You see, sei is bound to fuji emotional so I think fuji will manipulate him emotional to not make him leave).

Sexuality is quite a complex thing. Even if I want to explain it I don't know how to but I think I do understand what she meant by saying that. But that doesn't give her the right to play with hagiwara's feelings like this and do things that only pleases her.

Waiting until the next week is such a torture! I want to watch the next ep already!

Idk but I don't think it's a big deal for fuji to install tv cause sei has given up so many things because of fuji's dislike towards them, the phrase 'he doesn't like it' has been used by sei since the start so fuji giving in for once and bringing the tv doesn't make me feel touched. I instead think that he is trying to appease sei and also indirectly telling him that he can give him whatever he wants beside sex.

Mrs Li 's character is either likable or dislikable. There's no in between. Likable because her character feels fresh different from rigid /dignified elders in the series of ancient setting, she cares for her daughters a lot and is not typically tolerant. But there are many reasons to dislike her that are, she doesn't seem to have an ounce of intelligence while her third daughter is rich in it and even her other daughters have more IQ than her. She breaks down easily, feels hopeless easily, can't control her temper at all, doesn't know how to act in public. I wonder how she was able to manage the house after her husband's death when she is like this. She is never calm and doesn't think about problem's solution calmly like an elder. I just dislike her character a lot but others here might like her (or not). If not for the girls I wouldn't have watched this series. Tho I have many other complains too but I think that the plot's gonna be progressively better as I'm still watching 3rd ep so I won't look at those things. Still it's a funny and interesting series that feels fresh unlike other ancient chinese series.

Do you just simply want to hate on men for no reason? You want example then let me give you. Literally the saying of 'men don't cry' is injustice on men, it's the same as saying Women shouldn't work outside due to the stereotype of society. And don't say these things doesn't matter cause you can go and see on Google that the rate of men dying by committing suicide is more than women. It's a kind of emotional injustice they suffer due to society. As for law, in my country there's a law to protect women from domestic violence or even harassment and yes there are women in need of these laws but what when some misuses them as well? There's violence on men by women in this day and age, present study says, 52.4% of men experienced gender-based violence. Out of 1000, males 51.5% experienced violence at the hands of their wives/intimate partner at least once in their lifetime and 10.5% in the last 12 months. The most common spousal violence was emotional (51.6%) followed by physical violence (6%). If you want to confirm this info then visit google for deep information. Rape cases of males https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_males. But there's no law to protect men cause the mindset of ' this is men's society so they don't need protection'. Women also have privileges given by law as in the custody of child and property of her husband as compensation after divorce no matter who is in wrong or why they got divorce. They need to provide the child care money but couldn't see their child without their wife's permission, again there are women in need of these laws but also women who misuses them. In parts of world were there are still 'women shouldn't do this' there are also 'men shouldn't do this'. In this society, it's hard on both men and women, we tend to ignore their struggles selectively. Please do check google to confirm the things I said and if you still don't want to believe that misandry does exist then feel free to not reply as I won't bother to reply back.

One last thing, the man who is sei's friend literally looks like someone with trauma towards sex. That's his sole problem that he doesn't want to have sex at all. You know the meaning of 'dont want to have sex at all' so there's no possibility of him cheating and that's exactly the story plot isn't it? The lack of intimacy. But it's not same with the woman cause she used to have sex with ML first but later stopped so how can people speculate her to be asexual? But people aren't just speculating of her cheating, they are also speculating that she is a lesbian. People here are hating on both man and woman for using the MLs as shield. And there are also people hating on MLs because of speculation of cheating (hence the low rating of this series). There are all types of people speculating all types of things, you are the one being selective. Also saying that 'he has small penis is reasonable reason' is misandry cause you don't think it as an insult the way you think calling the woman bitch is an insult.