I fully support Xu Yan. Everyone who is calling her a red flag is ignoring everything she has gone through. Plus her lies didnt hurt anyone. She did it to get her love and a better life. But Haoming tho, he is the real devil here. He manipulated the poor girl to fall in love with him, forced her to lie and guilt tripped her by giving her expensive gifts so she wouldn't say the truth and he wouldnt get a reason to fake anger. His reasons are so selfish. He just wanted a "throphy" wife who was perfect like a rich heiress but also wasn't actually rich so he could control her every move. Also someone patient enough to deal with his past. But ofc he badly misread Xu Yan because she isnt with him for his money only so she has no obligation to stay with him knowing everything. I dont think there is anything he can do to make up for it. I really really really hope they dont up together.
I binged all 12 eps in a day and now cannot wait for Shen Haomings downfall. ALSO ZHAO LUSI THE WOMAN SHE IS OH MY GOD š«š«š« have to pause everytime she comes on screen just to stare at her in awe. Like she has always been gorgeous but in this drama she just looks insane. I dont even have words to describe how obsessed I am with her looks
And some people are critizing it as if it was the worst drama they've ever watched
Oh God, itās not a fictional evil character š Canāt we respect peopleās beliefs? I understand you are not religious, and I respect that. Iām not forcing you not to watch it, nor am I telling people to rate it down. All I did was share a valid opinion, and you donāt need a lot of intelligence to see that.
Using something from a specific religion and then dismissing it as ājust fictionalā is not okay. Thereās a difference between criticising something as a story element and ignoring the fact that it directly touches on peopleās faith. Itās not about ācontrollingā what others watch, itās about acknowledging that, for believers, itās not just a random myth but something serious.
Labeling someone as a āreligious extremistā simply because they point this out is unfair and disrespectful. Having boundaries and speaking up when something is offensive does not equal extremism. If weāre really promoting freedom of expression, then that includes the freedom to express disagreement, especially when it comes to matters of belief.
Respect should go both ways. You can enjoy the series if you want, but at the same time, I have every right to say it feels wrong and explain why without being insulted for it.
From a million names they could have chosen, they went with Iblis š. And for people saying āitās just a nameā , no, itās really not just a name. Iblis is literally Shaytaan, the leader of devils, the one who openly defied God, refused to bow before Adam, and swore to misguide humanity until the end of time. His entire existence is built on rejecting goodness, rejecting humanity, and embodying pure evil. He doesnāt feel, he doesnāt love, he doesnāt bow to or obey humans, thatās the entire point of who he is. So turning that figure into a ātragic, misunderstood romantic male leadā is not only tone-deaf, itās outright disturbing.
Itās not just a harmless creative choice. Itās taking the embodiment of evil in Islam ā a figure that billions of people see as the root of corruption, temptation, and suffering, and trying to repackage him as someone we should sympathise with, root for, or even romanticise. Thatās not just inaccurate, itās deeply disrespectful.
And letās be real: the only reason people are brushing it off with āoh, itās just a storyā is because itās tied to Islam. If someone had taken a well-known figure of evil from another tradition or from history, genocidal dictator, or another religionās ultimate villain, and turned him into the dreamy male lead of a drama, people would be furious. Theyād be calling it offensive, insensitive, and demanding it be taken down. But because itās Iblis, because itās Islam , suddenly itās ānot that deepā? The double standard is showing.
At the end of the day, thereās a difference between using fiction creatively and outright disrespecting what billions of people hold sacred. Romanticising Iblis isnāt edgy or innovative. Itās just wrong.
Edit: I wonāt be replying to every comment here, because, quite frankly, a lot of people donāt seem to understand where Iām coming from. Iāve simply shared my perspective from a religious point of view. Iām not asking or expecting anyone to down-rate the drama (that would be wrong) or to stop watching it, thatās entirely up to each person, and itās none of my business.
To be clear, Iām not criticising any of the actors, this was never about them. My point is about the name that was chosen. Iblis isnāt a fictional character; he is a very real concept in Islam, Shaytaan himself, and is tied exclusively to Islamic belief. When you take a name directly from a religion, itās important to consider its meaning and significance before using it. Ignoring that context and reimagining it however you like isnāt simply careless, it does come across as disrespectful.
This seems like an unpopular opinion but I loved this. Yes I admit it has its flaws but I genuinely was just too comforted by their friendship to notice that. People probably went into this expecting something different but for me this was exactly what I like. I loved all their growths, seeing a group of people start from the same placr but through the course of the episodes take their own paths is beautiful to me. The hints delivered throughout the show about what each person leaned towards and why, just tied the ending together so well.
From the first ep I low-key get the vibe that Hyori is not Jian's biological daughter. Hyori says to Jian "My life isn't yours just because you took me in and raised me" which is clearly she isn't her bio daughter.
Saw him first in The Midnight Romance in Hagwon and instantly followed him on Insta when he had less than 2k followers. I'm so proud of how much his career has grown since then
totally agree! but let's talk about the kissing scenes? why they don't just let the scene happen???? I dint read…
This is my exact point, I haven't read the novel but I knew it was a mature and passionate one. I was enjoying this drama a lot more when they were still just friends and his feeling were one-sided. But when they got into the relationship mixed with the face kiss scenes, the chemistry went down the drain. The FL isn't a bad actor but she isn't made for these type of sensual stories. Ik she is absolutely gorgeous but she isn't intimate enough and can't really do the "yearning love" look. They should have 100% gotten a different female lead, because Anyu is actually very great in every scene.
my genuine thoughts. the girls eyes are not giving āloveā while look at anyus eyes. heās YEARNING for love.…
Yes omg. Wang Anyu has this desperate look in his eyes. He looks at her like he cannot survive without her but I noticed it even more in the last few eps how she couldn't care less š it's as if she is just having fun with him. It's a bit off putting even though I really enjoyed the first few eps, maybe cause they were only friends back then so it wasn't that obvious. The fake kiss scenes just ruin it even more
I think they kissed lol but because of the actress having a "no kiss" rule they just didn't show
It could be tbh lol, I was cringing at how awkward it all was. Like they just skipped to trees then back to them and now she is suddenly against the wall and has a hickey??? š would have been better to just end it at the hug
I have no problem with no kissing scenes, they are not always needed but it's the fact that it's so badly done here that icks me. Just don't even imply it or use body doubles. The editing is so off for that. Plus that scene in the cinema, clearly needed the kiss to me shown cause it makes no sense without it.
Using something from a specific religion and then dismissing it as ājust fictionalā is not okay. Thereās a difference between criticising something as a story element and ignoring the fact that it directly touches on peopleās faith. Itās not about ācontrollingā what others watch, itās about acknowledging that, for believers, itās not just a random myth but something serious.
Labeling someone as a āreligious extremistā simply because they point this out is unfair and disrespectful. Having boundaries and speaking up when something is offensive does not equal extremism. If weāre really promoting freedom of expression, then that includes the freedom to express disagreement, especially when it comes to matters of belief.
Respect should go both ways. You can enjoy the series if you want, but at the same time, I have every right to say it feels wrong and explain why without being insulted for it.
Itās not just a harmless creative choice. Itās taking the embodiment of evil in Islam ā a figure that billions of people see as the root of corruption, temptation, and suffering, and trying to repackage him as someone we should sympathise with, root for, or even romanticise. Thatās not just inaccurate, itās deeply disrespectful.
And letās be real: the only reason people are brushing it off with āoh, itās just a storyā is because itās tied to Islam. If someone had taken a well-known figure of evil from another tradition or from history, genocidal dictator, or another religionās ultimate villain, and turned him into the dreamy male lead of a drama, people would be furious. Theyād be calling it offensive, insensitive, and demanding it be taken down. But because itās Iblis, because itās Islam , suddenly itās ānot that deepā? The double standard is showing.
At the end of the day, thereās a difference between using fiction creatively and outright disrespecting what billions of people hold sacred. Romanticising Iblis isnāt edgy or innovative. Itās just wrong.
Edit: I wonāt be replying to every comment here, because, quite frankly, a lot of people donāt seem to understand where Iām coming from. Iāve simply shared my perspective from a religious point of view. Iām not asking or expecting anyone to down-rate the drama (that would be wrong) or to stop watching it, thatās entirely up to each person, and itās none of my business.
To be clear, Iām not criticising any of the actors, this was never about them. My point is about the name that was chosen. Iblis isnāt a fictional character; he is a very real concept in Islam, Shaytaan himself, and is tied exclusively to Islamic belief. When you take a name directly from a religion, itās important to consider its meaning and significance before using it. Ignoring that context and reimagining it however you like isnāt simply careless, it does come across as disrespectful.