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Replying to Sharanya Oct 26, 2023
I agree with Jing's part but not with Xiang Liu's. XY was never sure of XL's feelings as he make everything as…
Yes Jing hurt her the most because she loved him the most. You can't be hurt by someone you don't love that way which is why she never took what XL did to her to heart.

And you can't compare heartbreak to actual abuse. Heartbreak is not mental abuse. If that is the case then everyone has been abused. It means xiao yao has mentally abused both XL and Xuan because they are heart broken she had eyes for Jing. Especially Xuan. That is a very ridiculous thing to compare to. Matters of the heart are a separate matter. She loved Jing so much that she started to hope. Even if it was XL who caused her heartbreak I wouldn't call it abuse.

Also Jing never intentionally hurt xy. It was just the world against them and both of them received heartbreak because of the grandmother's scheming. Jing more so than xy because he was stuck with someone he didn't love for life and that person didn't love him too. XY atleast had luxury to choose anyone she wanted after. I'm assuming xy also knew it wasn't Jing's fault and that is why she forgave him

Also actors are actors. Sometimes actors don't understand their characters and that's okay. They're not God and their perspectives are not law. So if Yang Zi said that then it means she never understood xiao yao.

I also don't want to change anyone's stance but I will keep talking about facts as I read them in the novel and rewatch the show. Since this is my brain rot and I'm idle i will give it time. I welcome anyone who wants to disagree with me in my ramblings and I tell them exactly why I think what I think or agree with some of their points.

(I will check out your review).
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Replying to deetsy Oct 26, 2023
Title Lost You Forever Spoiler
someone spoil this for me, happy ending?
It will depend on which couple you end up shipping. And even opif you end up shipping non endgame ship, it is still happy ending for all characters as all get what they want.
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Replying to Sharanya Oct 25, 2023
Title Lost You Forever Spoiler
I agree with Jing's part but not with Xiang Liu's. XY was never sure of XL's feelings as he make everything as…
If tong Hua wanted xiao yao to have two loves equally then she did not do a satisfying job for XL's side of the love story.

At first I kept watching waiting for when xy would drop Jing and then start the "romance with XL or atleast show she cared about him that way even if subtle. In fact I thought XL was the main ml & she would definitely choose him.
I thought it was one of those stories where spfl first falls for one guy but then loves another by the end. With Jing repeating the 15 year promise I thought that was for sure going to happen but I was pleasantly surprised.

I actually started this show because tan jianci is in the cast so you cannot say I came to watch biased. I would have shipped her with XL because of him if I was.

So in my critical and logical anylising of this drama, I do not feel the romantic vibes from xiao yao to XL. And as I'm reading the book, it's even worse because I feel the drama writers or director was a Xiaoliu shipper or it's just Yang Zi & Tan jianci chemistry but I can atleast feel the spark because of the actors. In the novel though it's just straight up buddy feelings from xy so far. I had hopes when Jing broke her heart because I thought Jing was maybe holding her back from fully exploring her feelings towards XL but things remained as usual & XL saw through her wanting to use him as band aid for broken heart.

XY didn't even know who her real father was so I don't think she never wanted to repeat her mother's mistake because she never knew it. She was just lucky she never fell for XL in that sense. If she did fall for him that love definitely wasn't that great if she couldn't risk it all for him.

Besides she could just change faces and disappear & roam the world with XL and no one would know she was a princess. Xuan had gotten what he wanted to become king and that the person she cared most for and saw as her family.

Yes xy loved xl and Jing but in different ways. One romantic and another like soulmate or someone who they understand eachother. I feel like that's what tong Hua meant.
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Replying to Blueberries Oct 25, 2023
Yes, there is no doubt that Xiao Yao is a smart cookie, and she picked the right man for her.
XY chose the one she wanted. XL cannot choose for her when she already chose.
Actually her heart chose for her. It just happens he was perfect too.
Xiang Liu cannot make xiao yao have romantic feelings for Jing. XL cannot make her care about Jing the way she does.

The xiang Liu chose the right man for her narrative is just for Xiaoliu shippers to cope & it's time it's put to rest

XL knew xy feelings towards Jing so he never fully made a move because he doesn't want to be second choice and also he knew he couldn't give her what she wanted anyway.

Why risk to receive her rejection or become rebound for her when he knew it wasn't going anywhere?

Xiang Liu is more smart than you give him credit for. He just chose to love her from afar knowing she never reciprocates and didn't care which is what is heartbreaking for his character but also deserved because he brought it upon himself with how he treated her. He gave her danger vibes & she ran for the hills so no one to blame but himself.
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Replying to Sharanya Oct 25, 2023
Title Lost You Forever Spoiler
I agree with Jing's part but not with Xiang Liu's. XY was never sure of XL's feelings as he make everything as…
If you say if he confessed his love you say it as if you are sure she would accept him. While I don't think she would accept him because she loved Jing in a romantic sense.
Just because XL loved her doesn't mean she she loved him the same way. That's what XL fans & XL shippers tend to ignore. You trivialise her feelings for Jing and think she chose him as safe option as if good & gentle guys can't be loved for real if their rival is a toxic love interest.
You should say XY is lucky she escaped her mother's fate because she fell for the right guy unlike her mother.
XY definitely loved Jing and he wasnt second choice in anyway. She would even risk XL rage by using him to make Jing jealous lol while she was never jealous of XL as FFB & he was a 'play boy'

(I do like your kind of XL fans who can admit his faults and how he wasn't the right choice anyway. I like XL character too. It's just I don't think he deserved xy not did she like him that way anyway)
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Replying to Sharanya Oct 25, 2023
Title Lost You Forever Spoiler
I agree with Jing's part but not with Xiang Liu's. XY was never sure of XL's feelings as he make everything as…
There's a difference between love and attraction. XY knew XL was interested in her romantically but she never quite believed he really loved her as she is or the extent.
XY only accepted to kiss XL to get air after Jing broke her heart because she was free from the oath she made with Jing. She didn't care anymore how it would look. She ener did it because she wanted to kiss XL.

I've not reached the part you are talking about in the novel but if she hesitated to answer on spending her life with someone I think it is because it's self explanatory. Why would you want to marry someone you do not want to spend your life with? The answer already is Jing. It didn't need her to answer. But I will also analyse that part when I reach it.

XL true loved XY but XY loved him in a different way which was not romantic couple love but like friends love. She was never attracted to him the way she was to Jing. She always referred to his good looks as a matter of fact. Like she knew everyone could acknowledge XL looked insanely handsome. She never reacted much when he sucked her neck but went crazy when Jing kissed her.

XY definitely knew XL feelings but she just didn't feel that way about him although she cared for him alot. I think many YaoLiu shippers project onto xiao yao what she should have been feeling for XL in their place not what XY actually felt.
It was just one sided romantic love but XY liked him as a playmate.

Even when XL decided to make everything he did for her a deal, she knew he was doing that purposefully and chose to play along
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Replying to first_snow55 Oct 25, 2023
Omg we finally have a trailer! omg!!! Why didn't anyone tell me??Is it really Oct 30??
They released BTS & MV!! It's really coming this 30th it seems. Can't wait
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Replying to Winny Oct 25, 2023
....we do not live with what if..but we live with what is.. fate play the part...but its depending on our actions…
I know but I still imagine them without stress of the trauma 😭
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Replying to Sharanya Oct 25, 2023
If that's the case then she might have fallen for Xuan, not to anyone else, I guess.
That would be true if Xuan left ambitions of vbecoming King. Xiao Yao would never allow xuan to marry other women and xuan wouldn't be able to fulfill that
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On Lost You Forever Oct 25, 2023
As I'm reading the book I remembered there's people who say xiao yao only accepted Jing because he confessed first and that she never ever realised xiang Liu feelings.

My opinion is that people who say that don't value xiao yao intelligence and think she is an idiot. In fact xiao yao is a very smart woman in that she knew all the guys' romantic interest in her beforehand. Xiang Liu didn't need to confess for her to know it.

XY even when she was a man, kept shunning Jing because she learned of his fiance. Why would she do that if she was not already having an idea of his interest in her? She knew (,but good for Jing, she had reciprocated the same interest unconsciously which is a topic of its own)

XY knew xiang Liu was interested in her romantically early on after she became princess. The day she was publically announced and he cornered her in the lake & tried to kiss her and she refused. That day she told him he was not the kind of guy to be in a girl's dream. She knew from then on of his kind of interest in her but sadly for XL xiao yao knows how to guard her heart if she sets it upon herself.
Even if let's say she never knew then, XL relentless flirting as Fang Feng Bei would have given her a clue.

Point is xiao yao is a very smart woman and she knew all the guys' interests and attentions and her heart chose who she chose. Exception being xuan who I think she purposefully tried to not even think about him being interested in her romantically. (Im still in S 1 part of the book so I wil see if there are new developments with that one). She just loved them in different ways.
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On Lost You Forever Oct 25, 2023
I can't help but wonder, what if Xiao Yao never left mountain jade and she remained princess. And what if Tushan Jing never got tortured by his brother.
What if Xiao yao and Jing met on one of those ceremonies would they have fallen for each other like they did?
I have a feeling xiao yao would have been wowed by the perfect Jing accomplishments but stayed wary due to xuan. Jing would have fallen for her first sight & then wooed her & in the process got to know his kindness & gentle heart which would make her fall for him.

(I need this fic because I want xiao yao to experience Jing before his brother broke him 😭)
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Replying to Elif Oct 22, 2023
If I hadn't watched the drama I would've run away by scrolling this comment section,like between an abuser and…
There's a bunch of immature fans in the comment section who take shipping very seriously and think just because you don't want XL for xiao yao then it means you hate him & reply to you trashing Jing out of childish spite & inventing "crimes" for him lol.

I do love all the characters. I don't even understand how anyone could hate any of the MLs. I don't think anyone can hold a meaningful discussion here without it turning into war but good thing I do not care

Just ignoring & only replying to anyone who makes sense even when we share different views is the way to go
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On Lost You Forever Oct 22, 2023
I hope tushan Jing is having a super nice day. Saying this I mean I hope xiao yao is having a nice day too because Jing would never have it if she doesn't have it too. 😌
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On Lost You Forever Oct 21, 2023
I'm reading the part where the YaoJing kiss happened & omg it's hotter than in the drama & I thought it was very hot in the drama. Like definitely goosebumps.
Xiao Yao was definitely right to call him wolf in rabbit clothing lol
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Replying to 9lives Oct 21, 2023
Hey Butt, I know you don't want to engage with Kokuto anymore, but you didn't say anything about other people,…
Those two statements are definitely not the same. Policing others I meant commenting on this page. I don't know whether you are dumb or you don't know how to read.

Criticising people for whatever kink they ship is very different than dictating what people comment on the drama page. You can police YaoJing shippers if you want lmfao.

Now I see why you think XL/XY pairing is the epitome of romance. Lol. Like no media literacy at all.

You sound like you are 12 so I will not waste my time replying that long immature comment.


Have a nice day.

(Btw not to use your wording, it's Tong Hua who created that sugary happy ending & we are so going enjoy it 😌. She definitely agreed with me about who is right for xiao yao's happiness. I do not care which character she loved or not lol. It's not like I dislike xiang liu.)
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Replying to Kokuto Oct 20, 2023
Nope. I don't think most watchers are confused about liking XL as a character and wanting him to be XY.XL would…
Look you definitely either watched with your eyes closed or have a deep personal beef with Jing because I would like to think that even if someone ships xiao Liu, there's no need to invent 'crimes' Jing did to justify it. I won't even ask you how you think Jing is abusive because I know the answers will be ridiculous.

I'm being generous by saying xiang Liu & xiao yao can be great friends because I feel like XL needs someone like that in his life & xuan or Jing would never allow XL to abuse her physically like he used to do when she was a 'nobody'. Being in a romantic relationship is different than being just buddies.

Saying someone deserves another person's love doesn't mean they are a possession. You can see how much that person loves & sacrificed or willing to sacrifice for someone & say they really earned it. That's how I feel with Jing. He definitely earned & deserves xy love. Even if XY were not to choose him that would remain my stance.

Yes I agree I criticise people who ship problematic ships which have realistic abusive elements. Not with only this ship but many other ships & I won't waver. You ship XL & XY so you feel called out so of course you are going to defend it & deny how it hurts people's perspective on relationships irl. If the media normalises this kind of relationship of course some clueless person will see a guy with XL qualities irl & think that is okay way to be treated. I will never be silenced when it comes calling out authors & people who romanticise this.

(My last time engaging with you on this matter. Bye)
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Replying to Kokuto Oct 20, 2023
Everyone has different tastes and ships they are pulling for, and you are definitely not alone in your appreciation…
If you love someone you can't control the jealous that comes over you. They don't need to first promise you love or anything for you to be jealous. We even get jealous over a crush which hasn't even been disclosed.
XL was definitely jealous of her & Jing at one point. Xuan too. Does that mean she promised them love?
I'm reading the novel & XY is jealous of Jing maids even before Jing confessed. Lmao

Stating the obvious AKA xiang Liu physically abusing xiao yao is not trashing your ship. If you are okay with that ship then stop being uncomfortable when people point out what they saw with their own eyes. Own that yes you like XL despite him hitting xy when they first met, throwing her from high distance through trees, (at first, he sucked her blood from her without consent until she just put up with it & allowed him), him leaving her to swim the whole ocean by herself in the middle of the night just because she rejected his advances. Besides he was planning on killing her because he thought she lied to him.

Jing is not a stalker at all. Did we watch the same drama? & cheater? I don't think it's even a spoiler that Jing is not even the father of that baby & even if he was he was literally drugged to sleep with her which is technically rape. But thankfully that fiancee of his disliked his scars so much I don't think she would sleep with him.

keep consoling yourself with the what ifs. Xiao Yao made her choice. If she loved XL that much she could have confessed first or shown it. Even if XL never confessed, xy could tell he had hots for her but she decided to play dumb on her own. XL himself knew how much xy loved Jing.

I believe though she would have agreed to marry xuan if he asked even if she didn't love him romantically because her love for him is familial not romantic & she could do anything for him.

Personally I will never want xy with him due how he treated her no matter how he " changes " later due to him falling for her. I don't even think he changed & would turn on her if she made a wrong move.

Look I do not want to convince you not to ship Xiaoliu. It's not like I can change your mind or you can change mine.
Let's agree to disagree.
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Replying to Kokuto Oct 20, 2023
Everyone has different tastes and ships they are pulling for, and you are definitely not alone in your appreciation…
Yang Zi & Tan Jian Ci having a song duet together doesn't mean anything since it could only mean only them are singers in the cast or the director loved them more etc.

XY & XL share a poisonous bug but remember XY agreed to it without fully knowing what it means. She never realised it was a loversbug until later. That is why she first put it in xuan.

Also you are right XY/XL are a romantic pairing but that romantic love is definitely one sided. XY knows what's best for her & decided not to be lured by XL false sense of security & never allowed him in her heart romantically. Only as someone special that they share past with & bonding.

When she asked her grandfather about FFB was because he came under the pretense of flirting with her & she was mad at Jing at that time so she was just jokingly considering. She never even ever got jealous of XL as she did Jing.

Me calling XL "bad boy" is only just symbol & figure of speech since that is how we call the toxic " exciting" guys these days lol. I definitely don't think XL's toxicity is all there is to him. Me not shipping him with XY doesn't mean I consider him a bad character at all.
He is second to xuan in complex characters in LYF. Better than Jing who I feel is the most deserving of XY & thankfully she thinks same. I would do same thing if I was her.
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Replying to first_snow55 Oct 20, 2023
Hey, good to see you here.
I had to check it since I like tan Jian ci 😍
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