it's a sad state of affairs that media creators use subtext and coded language to tell gay stories, censoring themselves/the community and tiptoeing around the prejudices of the masses for fear of stirring controversy
i might watch this, with a heavy heart, knowing that its source material has joined the ranks of countless other censored gay works
it's a sad state of affairs that media creators use subtext and coded language to tell gay stories, censoring themselves/the community and tiptoeing around the prejudices of the masses for fear of stirring controversy
i might watch the adaptation, with a heavy heart, knowing that its source material has joined the ranks of countless other censored gay works
the poster is a visual representation of homophobia. the forced "straight" storyline that's not present in the source material has been given a seat of privilege and power, sitting atop the gay storyline
gay couples and their storylines are seen as less important or worthy. they're crammed into a tiny corner, playing second fiddle to "straight" storylines to satiate the homophobic masses. my gay sixth-sense tells me our gay couple will get the short end of the screen time stick, with their romantic moments trimmed to the point of near invisibility
we haven't won yet. this homophobic adaptation will be popular, and the entertainment industry will be incentivized to churn out more homophobic adaptations that make a mockery of bl/gay love
BL drama? You mean Chasing the Light? With Chinese censorship it will be bromance.
"chasing the light" will be marketed as a "bromance" due to homophobic censorship, but fans of the bl genre know how to read between the lines and find the subtext that hints at a deeper, more romantic connection. we have witnessed this in the previous popular dramas, "the untamed" and "word of honor"
Does plotholes don't bother you? Like we just accept that Eve went to space with all the test astronauts need…
"Just this year 49 schools to close amid their population decline"
that's a logical adjustment to demographic shifts. society's obsession with growth has blinded it to the benefits of a smaller population: less competition for jobs and resources, a higher standard of living
childless people hold the key to deciding the fate of a species. humanity has failed to meet my standards, and i'm responding with a vote for extinction (that's out of the norm)
"Someone had create the WWW! So we can florish from it today"
in the absence of humans, there'd be no need for internet-based socialization and interaction. having children generates problems, demands, and complications. i'm not grateful for the partial alleviation of problems humanity created for itself
So women didn't knew that they can be mothers before this drama? And world didn't have population before this…
some women today enjoy a greater degree of education and independence than in the past; however, they don't have complete autonomy over their reproductive "choices." media, societal norms, governments, and religious institutions herd the masses toward the "straight" path of child-rearing. society wants an abundance of cookie-cutter minions to sustain its machinery and occupy every nook and cranny of the overflowing world. and it gleefully counts them up. a rare, courageous few dare defy society and not give it what it wants
fl called EVE. called a murderer for trashing fcking cells by the male lead, forced to give birth and die for…
"You are also here because a woman brought you in this world.Its an ability and not a curse"
"pregnancy" is a 9-month process of vomiting, swelling, and discomfort, culminating in the most traumatic experience one can endure. it's a curse, to me and the woman who brought me into the world. her "life" became a nightmare of sleepless nights, dirty diapers, and temper tantrums. my "life" became/has become a perpetual nightmare of despair and hopelessness
should this make it to screens, i’ll be counting on the internet’s editing wizards to spare us the hassle of skipping the forced "straight" parts and edit it into the watchable gay experience it was meant to be
I approve of realistic depictions of gay life - even if it's a BL...But this was not really a BL. It's quite useless…
the hypocritical "fans" you mentioned have missed the memo that genuine support requires more than applauding the performance. it means applauding the real people behind it and standing by them if they come out and reveal their true selves
the best we can do is point out the hypocrisy in their actions, and hope that they reconsider
I approve of realistic depictions of gay life - even if it's a BL...But this was not really a BL. It's quite useless…
"... the outside world is homophobic"
you and i know that society is homophobic. we’ve lived it, fought it, lost to it, woke up to it every day. reality denies gay people happy endings, can we please not deny them to gay people in fiction?
"... so some people may think about that problem and what they did wrong"
how much more pain should be put on display before minds are changed? for decades, hyperrealistic "queer" stories have bled on screen—philadelphia (1993), brokeback mountain (2005), moonlight (2016)—yet the ghosts of prejudice and homophobic laws are unshaken. if hyperrealism alone had the power to set us free, we would've been free by now. and we aren't
people know they're hurting us. they don't care. a story about gay pain won't sway them
"... but BLs are fantasies mostly thought by women for women" "What does it matter to you, who I fuck, who fucks me?"
i agree with you. society has no business meddling in the affairs of two consenting men or two consenting women, nor should it dictate the content of a woman’s fantasies. some women imagine men entwined in joy, and not sorrow, is that a crime?
gay love, in its most freeing form, deserves to be celebrated by everyone, man or woman
Too realistic. Again... because of "Happy of the End", "Love in the Big City" and "Let Free of the Curse of Taekwando"…
if gay love in sorrow is gay, gay love in joy (bl) is no less so
happiness, as "unrealistic" as it might be, doesn't disqualify bl from being gay. love between men remains love between men and gay. ending in triumph doesn't change that
"... but don't expect a BL, because it's a gay series which is a trend I wholeheartedly approve of"
i don't approve of the "queer" trend
hyperrealistic "queer" stories are cautionary stories for the homophobic gaze, warning the audience, yet again, that gay love is a doomed candle in the wind. their formula doesn't change: a glimpse of happiness, a taste of something real, and a sad conclusion. they're told in past tense, something that had been, something that couldn't last
comes bl, a joyful rebellion. a branch of gay media that lets men love each other and live to tell the story. the moment it gained popularity, you rushed to draw an arbitrary line between bl and the gay media it belongs to, as if to quarantine its gay hope and happiness. as if you missed the days gay stories ended in exile, heartbreak, or a funeral scheduled for dramatic effect
reality gives us more than enough homophobia, pain, and sorrow. we shouldn't demand fiction do the same
Right? The toxic culture of milking the bl industry In Thailand is making its way to Korea
that's true. every other genre has been milked dry since the dawn of media, and bl, being a new addition, is milked in its formative years. we’re seeing a flood of uneven storytelling as a result. some rich in depth and artistry, others uninspired
we should give bl time to grow, and push for better storytelling from producers. growth takes time. with demand for quality, it’ll get there
it's a sad state of affairs that media creators use subtext and coded language to tell gay stories, censoring themselves/the community and tiptoeing around the prejudices of the masses for fear of stirring controversy
i might watch this, with a heavy heart, knowing that its source material has joined the ranks of countless other censored gay works
it's a sad state of affairs that media creators use subtext and coded language to tell gay stories, censoring themselves/the community and tiptoeing around the prejudices of the masses for fear of stirring controversy
i might watch the adaptation, with a heavy heart, knowing that its source material has joined the ranks of countless other censored gay works
gay couples and their storylines are seen as less important or worthy. they're crammed into a tiny corner, playing second fiddle to "straight" storylines to satiate the homophobic masses. my gay sixth-sense tells me our gay couple will get the short end of the screen time stick, with their romantic moments trimmed to the point of near invisibility
we haven't won yet. this homophobic adaptation will be popular, and the entertainment industry will be incentivized to churn out more homophobic adaptations that make a mockery of bl/gay love
i like that he's trying something new
that's a logical adjustment to demographic shifts. society's obsession with growth has blinded it to the benefits of a smaller population: less competition for jobs and resources, a higher standard of living
childless people hold the key to deciding the fate of a species. humanity has failed to meet my standards, and i'm responding with a vote for extinction (that's out of the norm)
"Someone had create the WWW! So we can florish from it today"
in the absence of humans, there'd be no need for internet-based socialization and interaction. having children generates problems, demands, and complications. i'm not grateful for the partial alleviation of problems humanity created for itself
"pregnancy" is a 9-month process of vomiting, swelling, and discomfort, culminating in the most traumatic experience one can endure. it's a curse, to me and the woman who brought me into the world. her "life" became a nightmare of sleepless nights, dirty diapers, and temper tantrums. my "life" became/has become a perpetual nightmare of despair and hopelessness
if it were me, i'd have no interest in playing "hero" and postponing the apocalypse. i'd let humanity and the world go up in flames
the best we can do is point out the hypocrisy in their actions, and hope that they reconsider
you and i know that society is homophobic. we’ve lived it, fought it, lost to it, woke up to it every day. reality denies gay people happy endings, can we please not deny them to gay people in fiction?
"... so some people may think about that problem and what they did wrong"
how much more pain should be put on display before minds are changed? for decades, hyperrealistic "queer" stories have bled on screen—philadelphia (1993), brokeback mountain (2005), moonlight (2016)—yet the ghosts of prejudice and homophobic laws are unshaken. if hyperrealism alone had the power to set us free, we would've been free by now. and we aren't
people know they're hurting us. they don't care. a story about gay pain won't sway them
"... but BLs are fantasies mostly thought by women for women"
"What does it matter to you, who I fuck, who fucks me?"
i agree with you. society has no business meddling in the affairs of two consenting men or two consenting women, nor should it dictate the content of a woman’s fantasies. some women imagine men entwined in joy, and not sorrow, is that a crime?
gay love, in its most freeing form, deserves to be celebrated by everyone, man or woman
op is wrong to frame bl as a separate or inferior genre
happiness, as "unrealistic" as it might be, doesn't disqualify bl from being gay. love between men remains love between men and gay. ending in triumph doesn't change that
i don't approve of the "queer" trend
hyperrealistic "queer" stories are cautionary stories for the homophobic gaze, warning the audience, yet again, that gay love is a doomed candle in the wind. their formula doesn't change: a glimpse of happiness, a taste of something real, and a sad conclusion. they're told in past tense, something that had been, something that couldn't last
comes bl, a joyful rebellion. a branch of gay media that lets men love each other and live to tell the story. the moment it gained popularity, you rushed to draw an arbitrary line between bl and the gay media it belongs to, as if to quarantine its gay hope and happiness. as if you missed the days gay stories ended in exile, heartbreak, or a funeral scheduled for dramatic effect
reality gives us more than enough homophobia, pain, and sorrow. we shouldn't demand fiction do the same
we should give bl time to grow, and push for better storytelling from producers. growth takes time. with demand for quality, it’ll get there