GayinYourArea

the story walks the line between bl/gay romance and "queer" storytelling, combining their elements and creating a blend that captures the sweetness of bl and the bitterness of "queer" storytelling

you picked this fight, don't blame me. your inability to detect sarcasm set you off, and you threw a hissy fit over the word "intellectual" under @sweetcat's comment

that's a lot of unnecessary fireworks. your comments have more sass than substance. try having a civilized conversation and people won't assume you're a pseudo-intellectual

your comments suggested an air of arrogance and led me to include you among the people who make claims of intellectual superiority

i was speaking in a general sense about the people who make claims of intellectual superiority

i interpreted @sweetcat's use of sarcasm as a response to the perceived tone of your and other people's comments. it wasn't a direct response to a claim of intellectual superiority, and i wanted to share my interpretation

the preference for one type of story doesn't invalidate the existence of the other. both sad and happy stories are valuable in their own right when executed well, that's true

it's possible the reason this particular story/ending has been subject to criticism is due to its perceived shortcomings in execution or overall quality. of course, it's not a universal opinion and you don't have to agree with it

the term "intellectual" used by @sweetcat is meant to be sarcastic. true intellectuals rarely, if ever, self-identify as intellectuals. those of you who feel certain of your intellectual superiority are often pseudo-intellectuals with an inflated sense of your own abilities

there's no shame in preferring narratives that depict happy endings for gay couples, such as those in bls. constant reminders of sadness or hopelessness in fiction wouldn't always be appealing to those of us personally acquainted with the hardships of gay life

the narrative value of happy stories can't be denied. they might not fully reflect reality, they are still sources of comfort and inspiration for many

hating on bl is a byproduct of homophobic and misogynistic attitudes. bl antis are troubled by the concept of women enjoying stories that feature the intimacy and normalcy of relationships between two men. they want to delegitimize the happiness of gay couples and the women who support them

kbls are kdramas that explore gay romance with a more positive outlook. unlike the dark, open-ended narratives commonly featured in "queer" dramas, bl dramas afford gay couples the happiness and closure they deserve. they're not inferior to "queer" dramas

i hate all anti-(k)bl comments, they are trash and suck ass

the allegation that my comments lack nuance and context is itself lacking in nuance and context, the "critique" that my "superficial critiques" of the drama are driving other people away is a superficial critique, and the claim that you have engaged in our exchange in good faith is at odds with your disinclination towards diplomacy or "mincing words." unnecessary bluntness and tactlessness are characteristic of your communication style. one would be justified in interpreting your good faith as little more than a smokescreen for condescension and intellectual laziness

i stand firmly by the comments i have made regarding the adaptation and the implications of the creator's self-censorship. you were free to disagree, and you did. your opinions hold no relevance for me anymore and i consider the matter closed

"Doesn’t escape notice how you’ve yet to say I’m wrong about you being a teenager"

i have previously shared that i'm in my 20s, it's in the screenshots

i would humbly offer the counterpoint that your comments were equally, if not more, annoying and disruptive to the overall exchange of ideas

i forgot to add that @frings assumed i'm an "immature teenager" multiple times: https://imgur.com/77WFGla

@frings is lying. from the outset of our "discourse," they belittled my position and claimed i had a limited, naive worldview. they didn't consider the context and nuance of my comments: https://imgur.com/a/817vWz9

your verbal jabs at my character and condescending attitude reveal a desire to mock rather than converse. you conflate disagreement with teenage immaturity. it's an illogical stance, and i can't commit energy or time to it more than i've done. enjoy the drama

you told others to ignore and move on from content they find objectionable and problematic. apply the principle to your responses to dissenting opinions. ignore and move on, you didn't need to comment further

your "translation" grossly misrepresents my position

queer narratives don't need to meet an arbitrary standard of perfection. it's their alteration for commercial interests that carries with it harmful repercussions for the representation and visibility of queer identities. my position isn't grounded in the pursuit of personal satisfaction on the internet, those of you who participate in the malicious mockery of the commenters disagreeing with you or the creator's decision to self-censor themselves are placating your false sense of superiority and pursuing that personal satisfaction

"If the webtoon writer herself isnt making any objections"

the creator's silence isn't a sufficient justification for the alteration of the original story in a manner that diminishes representation and visibility of queer identities. self-censorship in response to homophobic financial incentives is reflective of a societal hierarchy that privileges "straight" experiences over those of other sexual orientations, and that's a problem

not everyone is going to agree with you or the creator's decision to self-censor themselves, you can ignore our comments and move on

introducing a character later in a story doesn't diminish their importance

the removal of any queer character or romance is a loss for our community. the relationship between the first main female character and another main female character was removed, and although there's a possibility of introducing another romantic partner of the same sex, it's understandable that some are expressing disappointment in the potential for this removal to marginalize queer experiences