I'm back again two months later to say that I hate when people try to justify their enjoyment of content made…
jinx didn't glorify, fetishize or romanticize "abusive" relationships. the author presented a complex situation that doesn't fit neatly into the framework of "abuse"
dan is an almost 30-year-old adult with nearly three decades of "life" experience, taking in the sweeping vista of maturity before him. he made a conscious decision to enter into a transactional arrangement with full knowledge of the potential consequences. he saw how jaekyung treated his ex partners, and proceeded
jaekyung gave dan the option to leave if he didn't feel comfortable with the arrangement. dan's decision to stay and sell his body was made out of his own volition
"i have a jinx. i need to have sex the night before a match to win. will you do it with me? if you're not going to do it, get out" (jaekyung, chapters 2 and 3)
this dynamic is a far cry from the "non-consensual" nature of sexual assault. you didn't think jaekyung would help dan for free, did you? that would be stupid
i will break down the story:
jaekyung: let's have sex? yes or no? dan: yes jaekyung: i won't stop, even if you cry or say "stop." is it still a "yes?" dan: yes jaekyung: *puts it in* dan: no! stop!
this is not sexual assault. this is a violation of agreed-upon terms and conditions. and dan is the one violating them. it's not jaekyung's fault that dan can't make up his mind
please try to approach bl with an open mind. you're babying an adult, misreading the story and injecting a narrative that isn't there
Listen,it's ok to not like anything and there's one solution to it not getting involved with it,You can't just…
@MoistDrippings, "queer" people are not a monolith. our experiences and perspectives are different from one another
it's not uncommon for "queer" people to perpetuate homophobic narratives, and "omegaverse" is one of them. "omegaverse" bears little resemblance to the lived experiences of (gay) men. it's flat out gay erasure
womanhood encompasses an array of experiences and abilities that sets it apart from manhood. at its center lies the ability to give birth. to deny or downplay this fundamental aspect of womanhood is to rob it of its essence
omegas have the ability to give birth. they can't be men
"omegaverse" has been unfairly labeled as "gay" or "about men loving men" to appeal to a wider, naïve bl audience and maximize profit. it's a case of marketing over substance; a disappointing reminder that profit takes precedence over authenticity, and a disservice to the audience who expect something that the story is not
@MoistDrippings, "queerphobic?" hold your horses! there are legitimate reasons to dislike "omegaverse." disliking a genre or trope that's popular among a certain "queer" demographic isn't indicative of phobic attitudes. is disliking a e.g. flavor of ice cream that's popular among a certain "queer" demographic "queerphobic?"
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
"It is representing those who have been pressured by society to be of a certain way to be considered valuable enough to live"
and holding a metaphorical (literal?) gun to their heads "fixes" them?
how would you "prevent" yi jae's suicide? he lost his money to scammers. his landlord evicted him. what measures should he have taken to climb out of that financial crisis? he applied for jobs that he was the perfect fit for, and failed to score an interview or get selected for the position. he fought. he didn't give up for seven years
suicides increase in step with adverse economic situations. unemployed, homeless yi jae lost the will to be, and i can't blame him for that
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
"life" is not a game of "fight hard enough, and you will win." it's a complex tapestry of experiences, and there's no one-size-fits-all solution to the challenges we face. saying that the suicidal can "turn their life around" with a few positive habits grossly oversimplifies their situation. it's like saying that a broken bone can be healed with a band-aid
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you"suicide is an unforgivable…
suicide is not a choice made out of selfishness. it's a result of overwhelming and unbearable pain that a person may feel they have no other way to escape
"The fact that you're out here trying to preach a narrow view of suicide whilst claiming its multifaceted is hilarious"
aren't you doing that? you said "suicide IS selfish" and "WILL traumatize the lives for those who remain." that's a narrow view of suicide
traumatize who? some of us don't have "caring family members and friends." mine would be happy at my funeral
It's been a while where we got a show with a great moral where it doesn't just virtue signal and preaches, but…
the story's treatment of suicide was tone-deaf and devoid of sympathy. that's society for you
"suicide is an unforgivable sin" "suicide is selfish" "think of the hearts that would break if you were gone"
society is quick to cast aspersions on the suicidal. they overlook the multifaceted nature of suicide, and the societal ills that contribute to suicidal thoughts and behaviors
"death's game" was far from perfect or moral, but the atmosphere was immersive. the screenwriter's storytelling prowess was on full display
kang hoon (hyuk soo, episode 2) and jae wook (tae sang, episode 3) played the most interesting characters. their journeys were like tightropes, balancing on the knife-edge of survival. their once-bright futures were eclipsed by the harsh reality of poverty, and altered by the winds of harassment, corruption, betrayal and abandonment. they battled demons internal and external. their strength and resilience were the light that was snuffed out by darkness too soon
I don't think it has anything to do with him repenting. I think it's more like... You know how narcissistic and…
"You know how narcissistic and selfish Gods are?"
it's a typical divine temper tantrum, for sure! "death" is outraged by the idea that someone would try to take control of their fate
the heavens are dominated by entities whose narcissism knows no bounds. entities that demand worship and obedience, with little regard for the welfare of their subjects
the story is a thrilling adventure, but the underlying themes and fear-based approaches to suicide prevention are deeply concerning
"isn't that what you humans do? you care more about the thorn in your own finger, than the knife in someone else's body"
oh, "death," thou art a hypocrite! you have a hair-trigger sensitivity, reacting to the slightest perceived slight with indignation. you proclaim suicide a sin? you and your "god" are blind to the anguish that drives it! suicide is not a moral failing or character flaw. sympathy for the suicidal should take precedence over your personal feelings of offense
"humans are really amusing. they say their life is like hell. they bear with it and carry on living. you think you can last a minute in hell?"
what option do they have? you say that they can't escape "life." they can't escape hell. they would be damned and the smoke of their torment would ascend up forever and ever. a minute is nothing!
*woo min (kyung jun)'s hands wrapped around ji ho (da beom)'s head, and cupped his face, as if cradling delicate porcelain* (episode 8, 24:26) *ji ho (da beom) boldly approached the bare-chested woo min (kyung jun), seemingly unconcerned with the importance of proper clothing* (episode 8, 29:10) *woo min (kyung jun) ... straddled ji ho (da beom) in a kneeling position, and ... dozed off, flopping onto the panting ji ho (da beom), and staying there* (episode 8, 30:40)
talk about chemistry! those two actors were electric!
i would have shipped woo min (kyung jun) and ji ho (da beom), if woo min (kyung jun) apologized, earned ji ho (da beom)'s forgiveness, and marked a new chapter in their relationship. it's a shame he hasn't changed...
i'm finally squeezing "me time" into my busy university schedule and catching up on my favorite kdrama (vigilante)!
joon hyuk (kang ok): [joo hyuk] is like a quote generator. how can i not fall for him? he's right. crimes should be punished by crimes (episode 3, 38:00) i'll be frank, i like the vigilante. there's no reason. i just like him (episode 4, 11:38) you're on a date, [joo hyuk]? i'm jealous. are you enjoying your dinner? (episode 5, 1:17)
joon hyuk (kang ok) was jealous his man had dinner with someone that wasn't him? 😏 he's been dropping flirty hints; the support, compliments, eye contacts and nervousness around joo hyuk (ji yong). he's madly in love with the vigilante
joon hyuk (kang ok): i told you, you need me. cho heon is a puppet of those in power. he's a common enemy (episode 5, 1:30)
i wish ji tae (cho heon) had feelings for joo hyuk (ji yong). we would see him struggle, feel powerless to carry out the legally appropriate action, and give up on the idea of catching the vigilante
dan is an almost 30-year-old adult with nearly three decades of "life" experience, taking in the sweeping vista of maturity before him. he made a conscious decision to enter into a transactional arrangement with full knowledge of the potential consequences. he saw how jaekyung treated his ex partners, and proceeded
jaekyung gave dan the option to leave if he didn't feel comfortable with the arrangement. dan's decision to stay and sell his body was made out of his own volition
"i have a jinx. i need to have sex the night before a match to win. will you do it with me? if you're not going to do it, get out" (jaekyung, chapters 2 and 3)
this dynamic is a far cry from the "non-consensual" nature of sexual assault. you didn't think jaekyung would help dan for free, did you? that would be stupid
i will break down the story:
jaekyung: let's have sex? yes or no?
dan: yes
jaekyung: i won't stop, even if you cry or say "stop." is it still a "yes?"
dan: yes
jaekyung: *puts it in*
dan: no! stop!
this is not sexual assault. this is a violation of agreed-upon terms and conditions. and dan is the one violating them. it's not jaekyung's fault that dan can't make up his mind
please try to approach bl with an open mind. you're babying an adult, misreading the story and injecting a narrative that isn't there
it's not uncommon for "queer" people to perpetuate homophobic narratives, and "omegaverse" is one of them. "omegaverse" bears little resemblance to the lived experiences of (gay) men. it's flat out gay erasure
womanhood encompasses an array of experiences and abilities that sets it apart from manhood. at its center lies the ability to give birth. to deny or downplay this fundamental aspect of womanhood is to rob it of its essence
omegas have the ability to give birth. they can't be men
"omegaverse" has been unfairly labeled as "gay" or "about men loving men" to appeal to a wider, naïve bl audience and maximize profit. it's a case of marketing over substance; a disappointing reminder that profit takes precedence over authenticity, and a disservice to the audience who expect something that the story is not
and holding a metaphorical (literal?) gun to their heads "fixes" them?
how would you "prevent" yi jae's suicide? he lost his money to scammers. his landlord evicted him. what measures should he have taken to climb out of that financial crisis? he applied for jobs that he was the perfect fit for, and failed to score an interview or get selected for the position. he fought. he didn't give up for seven years
suicides increase in step with adverse economic situations. unemployed, homeless yi jae lost the will to be, and i can't blame him for that
"The fact that you're out here trying to preach a narrow view of suicide whilst claiming its multifaceted is hilarious"
aren't you doing that? you said "suicide IS selfish" and "WILL traumatize the lives for those who remain." that's a narrow view of suicide
traumatize who? some of us don't have "caring family members and friends." mine would be happy at my funeral
"suicide is an unforgivable sin"
"suicide is selfish"
"think of the hearts that would break if you were gone"
society is quick to cast aspersions on the suicidal. they overlook the multifaceted nature of suicide, and the societal ills that contribute to suicidal thoughts and behaviors
"death's game" was far from perfect or moral, but the atmosphere was immersive. the screenwriter's storytelling prowess was on full display
i'll patiently wait for the last 4 episodes!
it's a typical divine temper tantrum, for sure! "death" is outraged by the idea that someone would try to take control of their fate
the heavens are dominated by entities whose narcissism knows no bounds. entities that demand worship and obedience, with little regard for the welfare of their subjects
"isn't that what you humans do? you care more about the thorn in your own finger, than the knife in someone else's body"
oh, "death," thou art a hypocrite! you have a hair-trigger sensitivity, reacting to the slightest perceived slight with indignation. you proclaim suicide a sin? you and your "god" are blind to the anguish that drives it! suicide is not a moral failing or character flaw. sympathy for the suicidal should take precedence over your personal feelings of offense
"humans are really amusing. they say their life is like hell. they bear with it and carry on living. you think you can last a minute in hell?"
what option do they have? you say that they can't escape "life." they can't escape hell. they would be damned and the smoke of their torment would ascend up forever and ever. a minute is nothing!
*ji ho (da beom) boldly approached the bare-chested woo min (kyung jun), seemingly unconcerned with the importance of proper clothing* (episode 8, 29:10)
*woo min (kyung jun) ... straddled ji ho (da beom) in a kneeling position, and ... dozed off, flopping onto the panting ji ho (da beom), and staying there* (episode 8, 30:40)
talk about chemistry! those two actors were electric!
i would have shipped woo min (kyung jun) and ji ho (da beom), if woo min (kyung jun) apologized, earned ji ho (da beom)'s forgiveness, and marked a new chapter in their relationship. it's a shame he hasn't changed...
if pointing out the truth that omegaverse is "straight" and inherently homophobic makes me biased, then call me guilty as charged!
"... but sometimes shitty stuff has to be made first so that it can grow in quality"
that's a surefire recipe for disappointment. aim high from the beginning, don't settle for "straight" junk (e.g. omegaverse)
it is cool! i would have accepted the darkness
depends on who's "murdered"
"But the antivillain stories I like the most, the protagonist gets caught in the end"
i see! i wouldn't like to see the vigilante behind bars
it's not that i "take the message of the vigilante to heart." i look for a vigilante story that's consistent with my existing, pessimistic beliefs
you do the same. "antivillains" getting caught confirms your existing belief that e.g. "murder bad"
joon hyuk (kang ok): [joo hyuk] is like a quote generator. how can i not fall for him? he's right. crimes should be punished by crimes (episode 3, 38:00)
i'll be frank, i like the vigilante. there's no reason. i just like him (episode 4, 11:38)
you're on a date, [joo hyuk]? i'm jealous. are you enjoying your dinner? (episode 5, 1:17)
joon hyuk (kang ok) was jealous his man had dinner with someone that wasn't him? 😏 he's been dropping flirty hints; the support, compliments, eye contacts and nervousness around joo hyuk (ji yong). he's madly in love with the vigilante
joon hyuk (kang ok): i told you, you need me. cho heon is a puppet of those in power. he's a common enemy (episode 5, 1:30)
i wish ji tae (cho heon) had feelings for joo hyuk (ji yong). we would see him struggle, feel powerless to carry out the legally appropriate action, and give up on the idea of catching the vigilante
i know he's an oldie, don't come for me 😂