dropping it is the right choice talking shit about a country? we are talking about japan, a country that has a…
can't you tell the difference between negative and positive depictions of crime? "murder" mysteries don't promote "murder." their goal is to horrify the fans. they satisfy truth-seeking motivations by offering meaningful insights into aspects of the human condition. fans put on their detective hats to discover the who, what, when, where, and how. what makes criminals tick? what drives them to commit the crime? why that particular crime? how to rehabilitate them? they address the topic of crime and its consequences on the deceased
stories that identify the mundane, "non-sexual" roots of pedophilia, incest or rape are rare. the common positive depictions of pedophilia, incest or rape promote pedophilia, incest or rape. their goal is to arouse the fans. they don't address the topic of crime or its consequences on survivors. they show no consequences. no physical or psychological trauma, and no judgment about the immorality of the act. they are an opportunity for personal gratification, having little interest in the personal dimension of the crime itself
the common fascination with humiliated fictional girls and women is testament to a lack of public engagement beyond shock value or gratification. that's a problem, and it's called the paradox of fiction—why would people be aroused by imagined stories of pedophilia, incest or rape? how can imaginary things be arousing? can't people tell apart fiction from reality? the answer is that the brain doesn't know fiction is fiction. it suspends disbelief and reacts to fiction as though it were real
imagination and perception of reality rely on overlapping brain circuits. given that the same circuits are involved, that the neural mechanisms supporting imagery overlap with those supporting perception of reality, a foundational question is how imagination and reality can be kept apart. how can you be sure that you or other people aren't influenced by fiction?
you can't be sure. it's possible to confuse the two. strong virtual or imagined signals are subjectively indistinguishable from reality
fiction can and does influence us and our mental health. we should be careful what fiction we create or consume
the "right" to freedom of speech and expression isn't absolute. i believe speech or expression that promotes crime shouldn't be protected
I love Perth & Chimon, and I'm really happy to see them as leads in a series, and their acting is first-rate,…
"... like Laws of Desire or I Feel You Linger"
they are quirky, adventure-oriented bls. i define bls as gay-themed stories that feature men loving men. defining them as [stereotypes] doesn't give them a chance to improve or incorporate into themselves mind-bending complexity. we can take elements from multiple genres, like bl, comedy, fantasy, action, etc, and weave them together to make something unique. we don't say, "fantasy romances aren't really romances." do we?
"bl" is a quirky and fabulous way of saying "gay romance." the kind of romance that promises happy endings and keeps its promises
It's ironic that there is no such outrage when it's a straight couple! 17 year Bella Swan in Twilight was shacking…
or that's my boy (2012) that involves a 12-year-old boy hooking up with his 22-year-old female teacher. or the diary of a teenage girl (2015) that involves a 15-year-old girl winding up in bed with a 35-year-old man. or pretty little liars (2010-2017) that involves older men dating underage girls. or avatar: the last airbender (2005–2008) that involves the 112-year-old aang with the mind and body of a 12-year-old kissing the 14-year-old katara. or ... the list goes on and on
people excuse these inappropriate "straight" stories, saying that they "push boundaries" and "break taboos." why don't they excuse gay age gap stories?
there's a double standard here
i'm mostly against someone dating someone else whose age is less than half their own plus 6-7 years. for example, a 22-year-old shouldn't date someone younger than 17-18 (half of 22, plus 6-7). this varies depending on the gap in emotional maturity. does the younger partner act like a kid? the 17-year-old zong yi doesn't act like a kid. he has adult goals and works towards them. i'm not against his relationship with a 22-year-old man
to the people put off by a 17-year-old dating a 22-year-old, hear me out. zong yi is an independent 17-year-old. he works, earns a reliable income to support himself, keeps his space clean and organized, and manages his emotions in high-stress situations. he has the time to be an adult and a top student. he's emotionally mature enough to date or engage in sexual activity with a 22-year-old man. waiting a year or two wouldn't change this. he's an exception
zong yi will reconnect with ze rui 4 years later. he will be 21? and ready to settle down
man, i hated jom so much in episode 3. seriously, i understand that he was heartbroken, but how could he tell…
jom didn't want to tell on kaew at first. he remained silent and refused to answer the questions, until kaew's master yelled at him and threatened to punish him and khamtip
"why are you silent?! what is wrong with you?! answer my questions! if you don't, i'll punish both of you!" (episode 3, 13:58)
he had to answer the questions. he couldn't deny the truth that kaew met up with a man. khamtip would have been accused of lying and punished. what did he do? he told part of the whole truth, adding that kaew might not have had an affair
"i saw kaew with a man, but i don't know who he is. i don't know if he's her lover. i saw from afar" (episode 3, 16:04)
his answer implied that ohm could have been anyone; a brother, friend, "lover." that was the best he could do. slap robert the rapist. don't slap jom for someone else's actions. he didn't deserve it
The problem is the producer (or the streaming app?) trying to seduce (click bait) BL fans. They have two posters…
it's not an issue. we are treating man-man interactions the same way society treats man-woman interactions. it's a response to your issues. society doesn't understand that "friendships" between men and women are possible. 99% of literature, movies, dramas, comics, games, music videos and celebrity "dating" rumors peddle the myth that boys and girls, men and women, aren't "just friends." you're offended that the tables have turned in small corners of the fandom. you enjoy a witch hunt as long as it's our witches being hunted. the next time you call gay ships or bls an issue, please look in the mirror. nothing that you despise in our gay ships or bls is absent from your or everyone else's "straight" ships or media
let's not forget this is fiction. fiction is open to interpretation. the producers' original interpretation and intention shouldn't dictate how the audience perceives fictional characters. we are free to see the male characters as "just friends" or lovers. we aren't misunderstanding them by seeing them as lovers. we are deriving different messages from their interactions
I know the comment will be like, this drama will be good if BL.... and goverment china..... banned bla bla bla…
anything must be bl or gl
it's not weird to criticize chinese media for obscuring or straightwashing the overt gay representation of danmei source materials and coding gay relationships as "brotherly." this anti-gay censorship is disrespectful. it tones down the gay aspects of characters to make them more "acceptable" to a homophobic audience
what is that trailer? why is it sad? this is a fantasy! it doesn't have to be 100% realistic and sad! i’m an unhappy person. why would i spend more time plunged into sadness?
happy endings offer me a temporary escape. they open a door, show the sunlight outside, and give me a place to go. it's a place where love can last, and fences can be mended. a place where a couple (e.g. jom and yai) can bank on hope in a bankrupt world. angst with happy endings are a more delicate balance between fantasy and reality than angst with sad endings
i'm invested in the main couple. jom disappearing will feel thicker than a knife's blade on my skin. it will cut wounds so deep only infinite time can ease the shocking pain that will manifest from it. don't do this to me...
"did i do something to you last night? i was afraid that the alcohol made me do something" (teaser)
whoever said yai is a walking green flag, you're right. yai respects jom's emotional and physical boundaries. he checks in with jom’s comfort level during every activity. jom is pushing through the tough times. he deserves a yai: a humble, faithful man who supports him and pays attention to his needs
yai and jom's relationship is a symphony of love, where every note resonates with mutual respect and understanding. the beauty of these two men isn't just in their faces. it's reflected in the caring that they lovingly give each other. this beauty grows with the passing episodes
the other parts of the teaser scared me. i'll tell myself that yai won't let anything happen to jom
"have you ever had feelings for someone you shouldn't have?" (episode 4, 32:32)
mei has feelings for yai's sister? tell me she does, or i'll throw my chair at the screen! i've been shipping mei and ueangphueng since they locked eyes and mei held ueangphueng's hand to comfort her in episode 3. episode 4's bed scene was more endearing and loving: https://imgur.com/a/T9Dy0bH
i imagine two love stories playing out. jom (a servant) x yai (his master). and mei (a servant) x yai's sister (her master). the latter would be the lesbian version of the former
ueangphueng should divorce robert the rapist and marry mei. ming will be fine. he'll move away from the idea that being with mei is his one path to happiness. he can have james
this, "desire" and "couple or not" shouldn't see the light of day due to their scandalous content. i won't be okay with conservative countries like mainland china, japan, thailand or korea releasing "omegaverse" content when actual gay content is banned, censored or rarely acknowledged in the mainstream. for crying out loud, get cancelled
Didn't she literally say that it used to also be said to guys in the past ? Maybe old fashion but I don't think…
don't mention it! i'm thankful you spoke up and invited us to discuss the issue further. we should take feedback and suggestions from gay men seriously!
the kisses were mesmerizing to watch. the past 7 episodes, i yelled at my screen for the male characters to get out of their heads and tell each other how they feel. at last, their love stories unfolded and we saw the ~magic~ happen in front of our own eyes
Didn't she literally say that it used to also be said to guys in the past ? Maybe old fashion but I don't think…
language changes. the meaning of old words drifts, and morphology develops or decays
언니 (unnie) was used by men and women in the past. korean people who supported the use of sino-korean words changed the system
nowadays, calling a man 언니 (unnie) is like calling something "awesome" awful, because "awesome" and "awful" used to be synonymous. it's not just old-fashioned. it's a barrier to effective communication
jun mo (jun), the more feminine partner, was called 언니 (unnie) and hyun woo (jun), the more masculine partner, was called 오빠 (oppa). ms. fiancé saw jun mo (jun) as the "woman" in the relationship. some gay men are rightfully offended by it
Why is this comment still here? Does this site just not have moderators anymore?
"... while they create and maintain the societies you live in, invent everything you use in your day to day life, created ALL of the members of your family for ALL of history"
you/they are the enemy. using your/their tools against you/them to maximize our strengths and defeat you/them is smart
gay people didn't ask you/them to maintain societies. you/they don't deserve respect for something we didn't ask you/them to do
"Plenty of people give respect when they are given none in return"
you don't give gay people respect when you're given none in return. that's uncivilized behavior
"... what happened to, due onto others with you wish would be done unto yourself?"
that's our line. treat gay people how you want to be treated. you don't respect us. does that mean you don't want to be respected?
"... we kick you out of the nations"
kick us out, i'm waiting
"... a Gay man having sex with a Chimp"
you're eager to cast blame on a single person
hiv entered the human population through "bushmeat" hunting. the predominant hiv-1 form hasn't been shown to be transmitted directly from monkeys to humans
"... do not use protection"
that's why regular std testing is essential
"It is not the most accurate"
it is
"... sorry i guess latin is too difficult for you"
how many english speakers learned latin? didn't they use l1 (english) in the learning process? or search for equivalents in their l1 (english)? you believe "homosexual" is the target-language equivalent of "sodomite." why is that an accurate translation, and not the other several centuries of translations?
"It is not an opinion"
it's an opinion, and it's estimated that 50% of conceptions end in spontaneous abortion. most losses occur at the time of implantation. that's your "god's plan." your "god" is a "murderer" and you're against "murder?"
stories that identify the mundane, "non-sexual" roots of pedophilia, incest or rape are rare. the common positive depictions of pedophilia, incest or rape promote pedophilia, incest or rape. their goal is to arouse the fans. they don't address the topic of crime or its consequences on survivors. they show no consequences. no physical or psychological trauma, and no judgment about the immorality of the act. they are an opportunity for personal gratification, having little interest in the personal dimension of the crime itself
the common fascination with humiliated fictional girls and women is testament to a lack of public engagement beyond shock value or gratification. that's a problem, and it's called the paradox of fiction—why would people be aroused by imagined stories of pedophilia, incest or rape? how can imaginary things be arousing? can't people tell apart fiction from reality? the answer is that the brain doesn't know fiction is fiction. it suspends disbelief and reacts to fiction as though it were real
imagination and perception of reality rely on overlapping brain circuits. given that the same circuits are involved, that the neural mechanisms supporting imagery overlap with those supporting perception of reality, a foundational question is how imagination and reality can be kept apart. how can you be sure that you or other people aren't influenced by fiction?
you can't be sure. it's possible to confuse the two. strong virtual or imagined signals are subjectively indistinguishable from reality
fiction can and does influence us and our mental health. we should be careful what fiction we create or consume
the "right" to freedom of speech and expression isn't absolute. i believe speech or expression that promotes crime shouldn't be protected
they are quirky, adventure-oriented bls. i define bls as gay-themed stories that feature men loving men. defining them as [stereotypes] doesn't give them a chance to improve or incorporate into themselves mind-bending complexity. we can take elements from multiple genres, like bl, comedy, fantasy, action, etc, and weave them together to make something unique. we don't say, "fantasy romances aren't really romances." do we?
"bl" is a quirky and fabulous way of saying "gay romance." the kind of romance that promises happy endings and keeps its promises
people excuse these inappropriate "straight" stories, saying that they "push boundaries" and "break taboos." why don't they excuse gay age gap stories?
there's a double standard here
i'm mostly against someone dating someone else whose age is less than half their own plus 6-7 years. for example, a 22-year-old shouldn't date someone younger than 17-18 (half of 22, plus 6-7). this varies depending on the gap in emotional maturity. does the younger partner act like a kid? the 17-year-old zong yi doesn't act like a kid. he has adult goals and works towards them. i'm not against his relationship with a 22-year-old man
zong yi will reconnect with ze rui 4 years later. he will be 21? and ready to settle down
"why are you silent?! what is wrong with you?! answer my questions! if you don't, i'll punish both of you!" (episode 3, 13:58)
he had to answer the questions. he couldn't deny the truth that kaew met up with a man. khamtip would have been accused of lying and punished. what did he do? he told part of the whole truth, adding that kaew might not have had an affair
"i saw kaew with a man, but i don't know who he is. i don't know if he's her lover. i saw from afar" (episode 3, 16:04)
his answer implied that ohm could have been anyone; a brother, friend, "lover." that was the best he could do. slap robert the rapist. don't slap jom for someone else's actions. he didn't deserve it
let's not forget this is fiction. fiction is open to interpretation. the producers' original interpretation and intention shouldn't dictate how the audience perceives fictional characters. we are free to see the male characters as "just friends" or lovers. we aren't misunderstanding them by seeing them as lovers. we are deriving different messages from their interactions
it's not weird to criticize chinese media for obscuring or straightwashing the overt gay representation of danmei source materials and coding gay relationships as "brotherly." this anti-gay censorship is disrespectful. it tones down the gay aspects of characters to make them more "acceptable" to a homophobic audience
what is that trailer? why is it sad? this is a fantasy! it doesn't have to be 100% realistic and sad! i’m an unhappy person. why would i spend more time plunged into sadness?
happy endings offer me a temporary escape. they open a door, show the sunlight outside, and give me a place to go. it's a place where love can last, and fences can be mended. a place where a couple (e.g. jom and yai) can bank on hope in a bankrupt world. angst with happy endings are a more delicate balance between fantasy and reality than angst with sad endings
i'm invested in the main couple. jom disappearing will feel thicker than a knife's blade on my skin. it will cut wounds so deep only infinite time can ease the shocking pain that will manifest from it. don't do this to me...
i'm stealing this 😂👌
whoever said yai is a walking green flag, you're right. yai respects jom's emotional and physical boundaries. he checks in with jom’s comfort level during every activity. jom is pushing through the tough times. he deserves a yai: a humble, faithful man who supports him and pays attention to his needs
yai and jom's relationship is a symphony of love, where every note resonates with mutual respect and understanding. the beauty of these two men isn't just in their faces. it's reflected in the caring that they lovingly give each other. this beauty grows with the passing episodes
the other parts of the teaser scared me. i'll tell myself that yai won't let anything happen to jom
mei has feelings for yai's sister? tell me she does, or i'll throw my chair at the screen! i've been shipping mei and ueangphueng since they locked eyes and mei held ueangphueng's hand to comfort her in episode 3. episode 4's bed scene was more endearing and loving: https://imgur.com/a/T9Dy0bH
i imagine two love stories playing out. jom (a servant) x yai (his master). and mei (a servant) x yai's sister (her master). the latter would be the lesbian version of the former
ueangphueng should divorce robert the rapist and marry mei. ming will be fine. he'll move away from the idea that being with mei is his one path to happiness. he can have james
언니 (unnie) was used by men and women in the past. korean people who supported the use of sino-korean words changed the system
nowadays, calling a man 언니 (unnie) is like calling something "awesome" awful, because "awesome" and "awful" used to be synonymous. it's not just old-fashioned. it's a barrier to effective communication
jun mo (jun), the more feminine partner, was called 언니 (unnie) and hyun woo (jun), the more masculine partner, was called 오빠 (oppa). ms. fiancé saw jun mo (jun) as the "woman" in the relationship. some gay men are rightfully offended by it
you/they are the enemy. using your/their tools against you/them to maximize our strengths and defeat you/them is smart
gay people didn't ask you/them to maintain societies. you/they don't deserve respect for something we didn't ask you/them to do
"Plenty of people give respect when they are given none in return"
you don't give gay people respect when you're given none in return. that's uncivilized behavior
"... what happened to, due onto others with you wish would be done unto yourself?"
that's our line. treat gay people how you want to be treated. you don't respect us. does that mean you don't want to be respected?
"... we kick you out of the nations"
kick us out, i'm waiting
"... a Gay man having sex with a Chimp"
you're eager to cast blame on a single person
hiv entered the human population through "bushmeat" hunting. the predominant hiv-1 form hasn't been shown to be transmitted directly from monkeys to humans
"... do not use protection"
that's why regular std testing is essential
"It is not the most accurate"
it is
"... sorry i guess latin is too difficult for you"
how many english speakers learned latin? didn't they use l1 (english) in the learning process? or search for equivalents in their l1 (english)? you believe "homosexual" is the target-language equivalent of "sodomite." why is that an accurate translation, and not the other several centuries of translations?
"It is not an opinion"
it's an opinion, and it's estimated that 50% of conceptions end in spontaneous abortion. most losses occur at the time of implantation. that's your "god's plan." your "god" is a "murderer" and you're against "murder?"