"unnie, what are you doing here?" "unnie had a fight with oppa" "unnie isn't at fault"
mrs. fiancé, you and your fiancé are ethnically korean people (your american nationality and iced americano be damned). you're telling me, you didn't pick up the korean language at home naturally? you moved back to korea. didn't anyone teach you that "unnie" is an honorific title for an older sister or close older woman? you and jun mo (jun) aren't close to call him unnie. he's not a woman to call him unnie. stop it and get some help
hyeong seop (simeon): this is how you've always been. avoiding me and ignoring my calls chan hyun (hyun jae): we have a professional relationship hyeong seop (simeon): since when? chan hyun (hyun jae): always hyeong seop (simeon): i worked with you for 5+ years. we spent a lot of time together. what's this? a professional relationship? you upset me
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it's not odd. i know you can see your comments. and you can log out to see mine. i blocked so you can have fun talking to yourself
1) you replied to me. it was your debate
2) ancient societies had an incorrect concept of "gender" that wasn't different from the present-day conservative or liberal concept of "gender." is it a submissive homemaker? it's a woman. is it a dominant breadwinner? it's a man. that was their concept. man-made distinctions concerning sexuality began to appear after the rise of christianity. there weren't any words in ancient languages that translated to the present-day "gay" or "straight." in the 1860s, hungarian journalist karl maria kertbeny coined two words for the first time: "homosexual" and "heterosexual." people started to identify as them later on
3) i'm not that "politically correct"
4) we were talking about hundreds to thousands of years ago. gay men did have fake "wives"
5) as i said, rich people prioritize their self-interests above the interests of other people. their drive to accumulate wealth is inconsistent with the idea of communal help/support. they wouldn't spend their money on us
6) i'm a translator. other gay people are teachers, painters, writers, police officers, doctors, athletes, construction workers, etc. one of my gay male friends is a doctor, another is a construction worker. you're under a rock. there's no way most gay people got a job at buzzfeed. they might write articles as a second career
you said that gay people were accepted. that they faced no discrimination. i said that gay people were tolerated. that they faced discrimination. big difference
you proved nothing and i disproved everything. leave your "straight" lifestyle in the bedroom, and i will take you seriously. no more "straight" media. no more hand-holding or making out in public, okay? okay!
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1) "finish your argument that YOU started?" i didn't start anything. you responded to a comment that i wrote to someone else and started it
2) ancient societies didn't conceive of sexual orientation as a social identity as present-day societies do. it wasn't possible for gay people to "have equal rights." older men served as mentors to younger men in exchange for sexual favors. or temporarily disengaged from the women they were told to "marry" to engage with other men. age and status determined the roles of men in sexual encounters. the younger men were the "bottom." women were (and are) categorized as inferior/second class citizens. and to not lower themselves to the inferior status of women, to not act like women, the men didn't "go all the way." refusing to conform to prevailing misogynistic "gender" roles meant being stripped of their manhood and incorrectly categorized as neither man nor woman (third gender). they were limited
3) rich people are less sympathetic to poverty or discrimination. it's not a gay thing. it's a rich thing
4) you can't assume the sexuality of the scientists, painters, writers, etc, of ancient societies. they didn't identify as "straight" or "gay"
5) paying mainland china to "make an island" would have been unwise. don't you know how mainland china treats gay people? it would flex its military muscles and invade our island to erase us
6) who's leeching off? most of us aren't rich. we are ordinary people working ordinary jobs. we give what we take
tl;dr were ancient societies more tolerant of gay relationships? yes! they have some of my respect. were they a gay paradise? no! they were still homophobic
"... why wouldn't this bad guy kill Mun and consume him"because so moon is a main character. the main character…
oh, i see your point! thank you for explaining ❤️
i look forward to so moon putting the spirits in their places. that's what happened in the webtoon. the webtoon was where the producers got the idea of gelly erasing so moon's memories from. they kept raising the stakes in the drama to create extra tension. so moon needed to try and fail to get back on his feet and discover his inner strength. he's actually stronger than the spirits. he will know that when he wakes up from the fake coma
I loved Season 1 of this series so much. I was excited for Season 2 however I am extremely disappointed. The bad…
"... why wouldn't this bad guy kill Mun and consume him"
because so moon is a main character. the main character drives the story. he's supposed to survive. what's the point of a supporting character defeating and consuming the main character in an embarrassingly easy way? there would be no uplifting, hopeful story to tell
i thought i was mistaken for a second and deleted my comment, but no, I was right. you meant the bully that nearly…
how does it romanticize abuse? hyuk woo isn't a bully anymore
so moon equally "beat" hyuk woo "to death like 100 times." they got even. i ship the hyuk woo who changed with so moon. the ex-bully who apologized and meant it. isn't it abusive that you're using his past against him? so moon forgave him. why wouldn't i?
let me put it this way. i'm not romanticizing abuse. i'm seeing bullying for what it is, an unhealthy coping mechanism, and promoting sympathy toward ex-bullies who repented and became better people. a look at bullying points to problems at home and school. hyuk woo wasn't treated as a person. he got pushed around and learnt to behave the same way in his relationships with his peers. so moon read his memories and saw that. he saw little hyuk woo, a mistreated, bullied child whose traumatic stress lasted well beyond his childhood. he was bullied by his "family" and fake "friends." bullying helped him feel in control of the situation when everything else was falling apart. so moon's heart broke for him. he gave hyuk woo some of his love; by defending him from bullies, putting his head on his shoulder, carrying him to his bed, introducing him to his "grandparents," sharing a meal, inviting him over to his place, etc. he accepted hyuk woo for all he was despite his flaws. and hyuk woo was moved by that love
his personality wasn't set in stone. hyuk woo stepped outside his comfort zone and began to change, grow and transform for so moon. that's true love. so moon's love has already had a profound, therapeutic effect on hyuk woo. i want so moon to love hyuk woo more. to hold him, to connect with him emotionally and physically, to re-wire his mind and body back to the natural state of intimacy. this ship gives hyuk woo a second opportunity to demonstrate his self-growth/character development
please don't tell me who to ship or not to ship, k? thanks
My honest review about this drama. The first episode was so good so i expect what come next to be as exceptional.…
what's wrong with feeling guilty and coming clean? shouldn't a guilty person feel guilty? there's more dong joo could have done, but he let the guilt remind him to do better next time. he called into question his actions and confessed on national tv. he was healing, rediscovering himself and starting over. that was brave of him to do
miraculous brothers isn't centered around "constant aggression, selfblame and a lot of nonsenical dispute." it's a crime drama illustrating the ways rich crime offenders depend on the silence and secrecy of co-offenders, survivors and bystanders
rich people shield their criminal activities through corruption, intimidation, communication in codes, media manipulation, and the use of lawyers. the court is a haven of refuge, not for poor people like dong joo, kang san and kai/ha neul, but for rich people like taekang group who do exceptionally well on their own
compared to the overrated, overdramatized "horny" or "romantic" dramas that rely heavily on appearances, nudity, misunderstandings, skewed power dynamics and lies like "relationships are magic and fix everything" to grab horny eye balls, miraculous brothers is a 9+/10
S2 ending lika a ML will leave UC team and hana will realise her new feeling in end?? 😅😅 Is it spoiler??
what do you mean? 😅 so moon didn't leave the team. what i understood from the teasers was that so moon fell into a fake coma and ha na entered his subconscious mind to restore his deleted memories. that's her job. the downside of this was so moon reliving the season 1 traumatic experiences he recovered from. if the drama follows the webtoon closely (gelly erasing so moon's memories was in the webtoon), so moon will regain consciousness with his powers intact
People can have their own opinions and mine is that it is still pretty good! Of course, some parts will feel like…
mine is that season 2 is better than season 1. it models a more positive family dynamic that thrives on mutual understanding, respect and care. when so moon walks, the other counters walk with him. where he goes, they are with him always. they fought for so moon in season 1. in return, so moon cherishes and fights for them this season
i guess you COULD say that webtoon ju seok and counters were strangers but in the webtoon, ju seok saved ha na…
hey there, army!
they didn't know each other well, and ha na didn't remember ju seok. ju seok parted ways with ha na and her brother afterwards. he was a kind stranger? rescuing two semi-conscious children trapped in a car doesn't make him an acquaintance or friend 😅😂
There are somethings that really bugs me in this season:1. Villains jump to conclusions a lot, and for some reason…
i will respond to your second question!
this is a supernatural story. in a supernatural story, memories could be the spiritual essence of a person. that includes their identity. the identity of a person/counter would be altered by severe memory loss and they would cease to be a person/counter
that's my guess. you'd have to ask the webtoon writer why memories and powers are connected! the drama didn't pull it out of the air. it's in the webtoon
by the way, webtoon so moon didn't permanently cease to be a counter. it was temporary
"unnie had a fight with oppa"
"unnie isn't at fault"
mrs. fiancé, you and your fiancé are ethnically korean people (your american nationality and iced americano be damned). you're telling me, you didn't pick up the korean language at home naturally? you moved back to korea. didn't anyone teach you that "unnie" is an honorific title for an older sister or close older woman? you and jun mo (jun) aren't close to call him unnie. he's not a woman to call him unnie. stop it and get some help
hyeong seop (simeon): this is how you've always been. avoiding me and ignoring my calls
chan hyun (hyun jae): we have a professional relationship
hyeong seop (simeon): since when?
chan hyun (hyun jae): always
hyeong seop (simeon): i worked with you for 5+ years. we spent a lot of time together. what's this? a professional relationship? you upset me
get married already!
1) you replied to me. it was your debate
2) ancient societies had an incorrect concept of "gender" that wasn't different from the present-day conservative or liberal concept of "gender." is it a submissive homemaker? it's a woman. is it a dominant breadwinner? it's a man. that was their concept. man-made distinctions concerning sexuality began to appear after the rise of christianity. there weren't any words in ancient languages that translated to the present-day "gay" or "straight." in the 1860s, hungarian journalist karl maria kertbeny coined two words for the first time: "homosexual" and "heterosexual." people started to identify as them later on
3) i'm not that "politically correct"
4) we were talking about hundreds to thousands of years ago. gay men did have fake "wives"
5) as i said, rich people prioritize their self-interests above the interests of other people. their drive to accumulate wealth is inconsistent with the idea of communal help/support. they wouldn't spend their money on us
6) i'm a translator. other gay people are teachers, painters, writers, police officers, doctors, athletes, construction workers, etc. one of my gay male friends is a doctor, another is a construction worker. you're under a rock. there's no way most gay people got a job at buzzfeed. they might write articles as a second career
you said that gay people were accepted. that they faced no discrimination. i said that gay people were tolerated. that they faced discrimination. big difference
you proved nothing and i disproved everything. leave your "straight" lifestyle in the bedroom, and i will take you seriously. no more "straight" media. no more hand-holding or making out in public, okay? okay!
2) ancient societies didn't conceive of sexual orientation as a social identity as present-day societies do. it wasn't possible for gay people to "have equal rights." older men served as mentors to younger men in exchange for sexual favors. or temporarily disengaged from the women they were told to "marry" to engage with other men. age and status determined the roles of men in sexual encounters. the younger men were the "bottom." women were (and are) categorized as inferior/second class citizens. and to not lower themselves to the inferior status of women, to not act like women, the men didn't "go all the way." refusing to conform to prevailing misogynistic "gender" roles meant being stripped of their manhood and incorrectly categorized as neither man nor woman (third gender). they were limited
3) rich people are less sympathetic to poverty or discrimination. it's not a gay thing. it's a rich thing
4) you can't assume the sexuality of the scientists, painters, writers, etc, of ancient societies. they didn't identify as "straight" or "gay"
5) paying mainland china to "make an island" would have been unwise. don't you know how mainland china treats gay people? it would flex its military muscles and invade our island to erase us
6) who's leeching off? most of us aren't rich. we are ordinary people working ordinary jobs. we give what we take
tl;dr were ancient societies more tolerant of gay relationships? yes! they have some of my respect. were they a gay paradise? no! they were still homophobic
there. happy? please go away. i’m introverting
i look forward to so moon putting the spirits in their places. that's what happened in the webtoon. the webtoon was where the producers got the idea of gelly erasing so moon's memories from. they kept raising the stakes in the drama to create extra tension. so moon needed to try and fail to get back on his feet and discover his inner strength. he's actually stronger than the spirits. he will know that when he wakes up from the fake coma
because so moon is a main character. the main character drives the story. he's supposed to survive. what's the point of a supporting character defeating and consuming the main character in an embarrassingly easy way? there would be no uplifting, hopeful story to tell
i'm blocking now, bye!
so moon equally "beat" hyuk woo "to death like 100 times." they got even. i ship the hyuk woo who changed with so moon. the ex-bully who apologized and meant it. isn't it abusive that you're using his past against him? so moon forgave him. why wouldn't i?
let me put it this way. i'm not romanticizing abuse. i'm seeing bullying for what it is, an unhealthy coping mechanism, and promoting sympathy toward ex-bullies who repented and became better people. a look at bullying points to problems at home and school. hyuk woo wasn't treated as a person. he got pushed around and learnt to behave the same way in his relationships with his peers. so moon read his memories and saw that. he saw little hyuk woo, a mistreated, bullied child whose traumatic stress lasted well beyond his childhood. he was bullied by his "family" and fake "friends." bullying helped him feel in control of the situation when everything else was falling apart. so moon's heart broke for him. he gave hyuk woo some of his love; by defending him from bullies, putting his head on his shoulder, carrying him to his bed, introducing him to his "grandparents," sharing a meal, inviting him over to his place, etc. he accepted hyuk woo for all he was despite his flaws. and hyuk woo was moved by that love
his personality wasn't set in stone. hyuk woo stepped outside his comfort zone and began to change, grow and transform for so moon. that's true love. so moon's love has already had a profound, therapeutic effect on hyuk woo. i want so moon to love hyuk woo more. to hold him, to connect with him emotionally and physically, to re-wire his mind and body back to the natural state of intimacy. this ship gives hyuk woo a second opportunity to demonstrate his self-growth/character development
please don't tell me who to ship or not to ship, k? thanks
miraculous brothers isn't centered around "constant aggression, selfblame and a lot of nonsenical dispute." it's a crime drama illustrating the ways rich crime offenders depend on the silence and secrecy of co-offenders, survivors and bystanders
rich people shield their criminal activities through corruption, intimidation, communication in codes, media manipulation, and the use of lawyers. the court is a haven of refuge, not for poor people like dong joo, kang san and kai/ha neul, but for rich people like taekang group who do exceptionally well on their own
compared to the overrated, overdramatized "horny" or "romantic" dramas that rely heavily on appearances, nudity, misunderstandings, skewed power dynamics and lies like "relationships are magic and fix everything" to grab horny eye balls, miraculous brothers is a 9+/10
it doesn't deserve a 7.8. it deserves a 9+ rating
they didn't know each other well, and ha na didn't remember ju seok. ju seok parted ways with ha na and her brother afterwards. he was a kind stranger? rescuing two semi-conscious children trapped in a car doesn't make him an acquaintance or friend 😅😂
she said 정신 차려, which means "get your shit together" or "wake up." it was said out of sisterly concern. everyone else was as worried about so moon
"this is meaningless. he wasn't the one who murdered ms. lee. the people who approached you used mr. park to murder ms. lee" (episode 6, 57:20)
this is a supernatural story. in a supernatural story, memories could be the spiritual essence of a person. that includes their identity. the identity of a person/counter would be altered by severe memory loss and they would cease to be a person/counter
that's my guess. you'd have to ask the webtoon writer why memories and powers are connected! the drama didn't pull it out of the air. it's in the webtoon
by the way, webtoon so moon didn't permanently cease to be a counter. it was temporary