He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been…
I understand it and even the master Dom that I corresponded with for over a year during my research agreed with me.
People who agree to be slaves in 24/7 power exchange relationships do so as adults. And real consent can't be given if you've been physically or sexually abused as a child.
I've pretty much done as much research as can be done about BDSM without actually participating in the lifestyle. Maybe after the series is over I'll also post my reading list.
I loved the series for the first 3 episodes, and then as it progressed through the series and deviated more and…
They wrote the series to highlight a Zee NuNew relationship. As soon as the series is over I intend to read the novel and I'd be more than happy to have a discussion here about it afterwards.
But I find it very confusing when people tell me stuff from the novel that is never going to be presented in the series. It kind of ruins the series for me.
The Khanin from the novel couldn't be played by NuNew in the series.
Domundi writes series about fated relationships and virginal forever after love. May not be your thing and I can understand that.
I wrote a fairly long response a couple of days ago if you feel like fishing it out that further explains why I don't see certain aspects of the novel coming out in the series.
Unfortunately someone decided to spoil me which is somewhat spoiling my enjoyment of the series.
now want to come up with how paytai was "groomed" and use all the other buzzwords? This is a pure bdsm relationship.…
He was groomed. When you've brought up as a small boy somewhere to be beaten you've been groomed. You've been shown that violence is something you should accept.
The only revelation in this particular episode is that Ramil recognized that he was doing a version of the same thing his father does by beating and choking Paytai during sex.
Paytai doesn't want to get beaten but he's confused. Because the only bit of protection he gets is from Ramil. And even if they stay together forever both of those boys would have been groomed and abused.
Ridiculous that people don't understand what being groomed means.
And if we want to take it to modern times Emmanuel Macron was groomed, Celine Dion was groomed, and certainly Vili Fualaau was groomed.
The product placement isnt even subtle with this series 🤣
Makes me want to put Lolani hair products out of business. It is so irritating. If I actually lived in Thailand I would never buy this stuff for the annoying commercials all by itself.
Here's a BTS clip that I'm pretty sure you won't see on Mandee Channel. Zee and Nu discussing their NC scene and…
I knew that Zee and NuNew would never talk about their own sex life, provided they are together and having sex. Found a much better translation by rkatepuka who translates a lot of ZeeNuNew videos.
👦🏻: What are these?
💙: We’re folding our clothes. We are moving from here to the other room. Both of us are tidy people so we’re going to get them folded, right? Nhu?
( NuNew keeps staring and smiling at Zee )
💙: Don’t make that suspicious face!
💗: Don’t do me!!
💙: Why do you make that suspicious face?
👦🏻: Ahh come on ~ how was the first time of Charan and Khanin?
💙: First time of Charan and Khanin, how was it krub?
💗: I'm feeling เสียว (Feeling thrilled, extremely excited/high elevated mood) [NOTE : Nunew used the word ‘เสียว’ (Siew) this vocab means like you’re feeling very thrilled when you do something, mostly used when you’re on theme park ride or something about sexuality]
👦🏻: Ohh!
💙: Well, the first time of Charan and Khanin… I feel guilty for Khanin because I’m the bodyguard, like my heart want to go for the attack but I got to respect and be considerate to him, but after that I was kinda blending so I asked his permission something like that.
👦🏻: Was it different from EP8? (the Cutie Pie one)
💙: Totally different.
👦🏻: It’s like you’ve grown up, right?
💙: Yeah, it’s depending on the character and role. It’s a new, different style that we get to learn.
👦🏻: Do you feel if it’s beyond? (what you’ve ever done)
💙: Is it beyond?
💗: That scene looks too soft now comparing to this scene.
💙: If you comparing it to…(inaudible) you aren’t that soft.
💗: No, I’m not. I’ve changed. I’ve grown up. I’m already pretty. I’m already spicy. I’m going to be the one who starts (lead, active position, top position)
💙: Who said Nhu will lead? You’re both the leader and being passive too. I’m also the lead and passive too.
👦🏻: What’s this talk?! We can’t let this on air.
💙: Oh, can’t we?
👦🏻: You were so good, excellent job. Encourage each other.
💙: Thank you very much. Thank you for the honor (like thank you for your grace toward me in order to do it) and for giving me encouragement.
💗: What’s with the word ‘honor’? We’ve been together for 4 years already ka. Why so formal? Honorrr... haha
💗: Don’t do anything to meee! Didn’t you do it enough in the scene just now?
You can read the entire discussion about this here:
They were supposed to be virgins so therefore didn't know crap. I'm sure he won't go in with no lube twice. 😮
I've never seen a Domundi series where the leads weren't fated with a childhood connection and no interest in romance with the opposite sex.
I don't know if there was a novel for Cutie Pie, but there was one for Naughty Babe which I read after the series concluded.
In the series Yi and Kondiao get married and have a couple of children, and plan on having more.
In the book they adopt a couple of tigers.
There is a strong theme of longing, finding your other half and never having had any interest at all in romance with someone else. And in the Cutie Pie era a strong political message about legalization of same-sex marriage and ability to have or adopt children.
So I seriously doubt that they are going to take a path with Zee and NuNew that changes this winning formula.
And I see a possible so far unrevealed childhood connection between Charan and Khanin via Thatdanai. We already know that outside of raising Khanin he took care of Charan for at least a while after his mother left him at the age of six.
Khanin plays a fairly effeminate character. And even in London it doesn't appear he ever had any interest in women. Samantha tells Khanin that Charan is his type.
Anyway, for many reasons, I don't think they will take the path of Khanin having slept with women in the past. It would be pretty unbelievable considering the character that he's playing.
have not seen TopForm -heard a lot about the that scene . Also heard a lot about My Stubbonr. However TNP the…
Well you have to believe in the fantasy for it to be a good sex scene to you. Charan and Khanin are making their forever bond. It's not just a romp in the sheets.
For the plot I thought it was a very appropriate sex scene and there will be others which may take on other flavors now that they are familiar with each other.
The episode 7 reaction video was kind of a bummer. They hardly said anything, half of the show was blurred out so you couldn't even tell what you were looking at, and most of the blur had nothing to do with the NC scene.
And then when they finally got to the NC scene at the end all Nu did was pull his sweater over his eyes and look embarrassed.
Glad I ran this thing at 2x and skipped over some of it. Hope future reaction videos are better. Episode 5 reaction video was great.
They were supposed to be virgins so therefore didn't know crap. I'm sure he won't go in with no lube twice. 😮
Then you didn't read what she wrote here and elsewhere. First she said he wasn't a virgin then she said he'd never slept with anybody. You can't be both of those things. If you've never slept with anybody then you are a virgin. Plus she keeps on following me around from thread to thread answering my posts with garbage. So if she keeps doing it I'm going to block her. Life is too short.
Edit. And I don't want spoilers from the book. If I did I have it. I'm not going to read it until after the series is over.
They were supposed to be virgins so therefore didn't know crap. I'm sure he won't go in with no lube twice. 😮
It may make sense to you but not to anyone else. And there is no evidence in this TV show that what you claim is the case.
You just keep making suppositions about these two. How about you stay out of Zee and NuNew's personal life and also stop making assumptions about Khanin's life in London.
The book is not the TV series and many aspects between the book and the series are not the same. Please answer somebody else's posts. I'm this close to blocking you.
Edit. And if you haven't had sex with anyone you are a virgin. I have no freaking idea what you're babbling on about. It appears you don't even know the definition of a virgin.
When I did this research I was in my late 40s I am 72 now. And I haven't lived at home since I was 18 years old so that would be 54 years ago.
I will agree that all people have trauma in their lives and we make decisions as imperfect people.
But if we make those decisions as adults, imperfect as we are, we are actually making a decision.
If we are in a captive situation since we were children we are not making a decision.
People who agree to be slaves in 24/7 power exchange relationships do so as adults. And real consent can't be given if you've been physically or sexually abused as a child.
I've pretty much done as much research as can be done about BDSM without actually participating in the lifestyle. Maybe after the series is over I'll also post my reading list.
But I find it very confusing when people tell me stuff from the novel that is never going to be presented in the series. It kind of ruins the series for me.
The Khanin from the novel couldn't be played by NuNew in the series.
Domundi writes series about fated relationships and virginal forever after love. May not be your thing and I can understand that.
I wrote a fairly long response a couple of days ago if you feel like fishing it out that further explains why I don't see certain aspects of the novel coming out in the series.
Unfortunately someone decided to spoil me which is somewhat spoiling my enjoyment of the series.
The only revelation in this particular episode is that Ramil recognized that he was doing a version of the same thing his father does by beating and choking Paytai during sex.
Paytai doesn't want to get beaten but he's confused. Because the only bit of protection he gets is from Ramil. And even if they stay together forever both of those boys would have been groomed and abused.
Ridiculous that people don't understand what being groomed means.
And if we want to take it to modern times Emmanuel Macron was groomed, Celine Dion was groomed, and certainly Vili Fualaau was groomed.
👦🏻: What are these?
💙: We’re folding our clothes. We are moving from here to the other room. Both of us are tidy people so we’re going to get them folded, right? Nhu?
( NuNew keeps staring and smiling at Zee )
💙: Don’t make that suspicious face!
💗: Don’t do me!!
💙: Why do you make that suspicious face?
👦🏻: Ahh come on ~ how was the first time of Charan and Khanin?
💙: First time of Charan and Khanin, how was it krub?
💗: I'm feeling เสียว (Feeling thrilled, extremely excited/high elevated mood) [NOTE : Nunew used the word ‘เสียว’ (Siew) this vocab means like you’re feeling very thrilled when you do something, mostly used when you’re on theme park ride or something about sexuality]
👦🏻: Ohh!
💙: Well, the first time of Charan and Khanin… I feel guilty for Khanin because I’m the bodyguard, like my heart want to go for the attack but I got to respect and be considerate to him, but after that I was kinda blending so I asked his permission something like that.
👦🏻: Was it different from EP8? (the Cutie Pie one)
💙: Totally different.
👦🏻: It’s like you’ve grown up, right?
💙: Yeah, it’s depending on the character and role. It’s a new, different style that we get to learn.
👦🏻: Do you feel if it’s beyond? (what you’ve ever done)
💙: Is it beyond?
💗: That scene looks too soft now comparing to this scene.
💙: If you comparing it to…(inaudible) you aren’t that soft.
💗: No, I’m not. I’ve changed. I’ve grown up. I’m already pretty. I’m already spicy. I’m going to be the one who starts (lead, active position, top position)
💙: Who said Nhu will lead? You’re both the leader and being passive too. I’m also the lead and passive too.
👦🏻: What’s this talk?! We can’t let this on air.
💙: Oh, can’t we?
👦🏻: You were so good, excellent job. Encourage each other.
💙: Thank you very much. Thank you for the honor (like thank you for your grace toward me in order to do it) and for giving me encouragement.
💗: What’s with the word ‘honor’? We’ve been together for 4 years already ka. Why so formal? Honorrr... haha
💗: Don’t do anything to meee! Didn’t you do it enough in the scene just now?
You can read the entire discussion about this here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeeNuNew/comments/1lc5twe/the_tnp_director_posted_a_bts_video_on_set_after/
Oh and if you're into BDSM you can try Unforgotten Night. There's even a throuple. No sap at all.
The other song is a new OST sung by NuNew. You can hear more of it at the closing credits of episode 7 but it has not been released yet.
Here's the link to Moonlit Magic.
https://youtu.be/DLnGMwmvecM?si=iLeSh1z0E0OmFisj
I don't know if there was a novel for Cutie Pie, but there was one for Naughty Babe which I read after the series concluded.
In the series Yi and Kondiao get married and have a couple of children, and plan on having more.
In the book they adopt a couple of tigers.
There is a strong theme of longing, finding your other half and never having had any interest at all in romance with someone else. And in the Cutie Pie era a strong political message about legalization of same-sex marriage and ability to have or adopt children.
So I seriously doubt that they are going to take a path with Zee and NuNew that changes this winning formula.
And I see a possible so far unrevealed childhood connection between Charan and Khanin via Thatdanai. We already know that outside of raising Khanin he took care of Charan for at least a while after his mother left him at the age of six.
Khanin plays a fairly effeminate character. And even in London it doesn't appear he ever had any interest in women. Samantha tells Khanin that Charan is his type.
Anyway, for many reasons, I don't think they will take the path of Khanin having slept with women in the past. It would be pretty unbelievable considering the character that he's playing.
For the plot I thought it was a very appropriate sex scene and there will be others which may take on other flavors now that they are familiar with each other.
And then when they finally got to the NC scene at the end all Nu did was pull his sweater over his eyes and look embarrassed.
Glad I ran this thing at 2x and skipped over some of it. Hope future reaction videos are better. Episode 5 reaction video was great.
https://www.instagram.com/rj_rumdual
https://youtu.be/VbQfV-2iiVA
Edit. And I don't want spoilers from the book. If I did I have it. I'm not going to read it until after the series is over.
You just keep making suppositions about these two. How about you stay out of Zee and NuNew's personal life and also stop making assumptions about Khanin's life in London.
The book is not the TV series and many aspects between the book and the series are not the same. Please answer somebody else's posts. I'm this close to blocking you.
Edit. And if you haven't had sex with anyone you are a virgin. I have no freaking idea what you're babbling on about. It appears you don't even know the definition of a virgin.