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Replying to Amastris Dratwka Dec 7, 2015
Title Kiss Me
Since I'm having serious issues with how this series is playing out, I thought I might post what Mike D. Angelo…
Sorry ^^^^ I thought the whole thing was posted. Somehow the English didn't copy over. So, I edited the post so you can read it in Mike's own English translation of what he meant.
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On Kiss Me Dec 7, 2015
Title Kiss Me
Since I'm having serious issues with how this series is playing out, I thought I might post what Mike D. Angelo has to say about it from his IG acct:

m1keangeloไม่ใช่ไม่รู้ว่าเธอกำลังเจ็บปวด...แต่บางครั้งชั้นก็ทำอะไรไม่ได้จริงๆ.........ก็บทมันเป็นแบบนี้นิ!!!

Its not that i dont realize ur in pain...theres really nthg i can do bout it...the director told me to!!!!aint my fault!!!
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Replying to Amastris Dratwka Dec 6, 2015
Title Kiss Me
I'm sorry if you think this is a "spoiler" but I think it needs to be openly noted going forward and…
...please go back and re-read my original comment before the replies... the 1st one in this thread.. I EDITED IT AND PUT IT UNDER A SPOILER!! I'm going to say that, after research, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE PRODUCTION TEAM IS BEING TRUTHFUL ABOUT THAI CULTURE!! ...and I have no idea why they decided to go in this direction.. so maybe next season will be different... maybe they want a "cliff hanger"... I don't know... but for whatever reason they decided to go here, IT WAS NOT A GOOD DECISION, in my book for me and being true to the story itself. Others can like it but I think the whole thing just made Taliw/TenTen look SO bad.
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Replying to vanillasalt Dec 6, 2015
Title Kiss Me Spoiler
Major Spoiler!!!! Well, not really considering that most of us here have watched every other remake of this show…
I'm beginning to wonder about this production team. I was really curious about this cultural thing "cannot get married if a student".. child marriages were a common practice in Thai with arranged marriages so they may have recently enacted new laws. I know they just enacted a bunch of laws regarding alcohol etc in the last 4 years that's why you see a lot of stuff blurred in thai dramas. Anyway, I cannot see anything regarding this "phenomenon". As far as I see, the can get married legally at age 17 regardless. How old are TenTen & Taliw supposed to be??? This whole "engagement only due to culture" is very dubious indeed.... and I wonder if the production team is taking advantage of foreigners not knowing the culture and natives not being familiar with Itazura. I mean, right now, I'm utterly and seriously confused.
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Replying to Amastris Dratwka Dec 6, 2015
Title Kiss Me Spoiler
I'm sorry if you think this is a "spoiler" but I think it needs to be openly noted going forward and…
From daratruelife.. essentially the production company put the show on says it's an engagement ceremony not an actual wedding. It was a big comment that people say it looks like a wedding... but it's not:

https://www.facebook.com/kissmethai/posts/1261174270566792
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Replying to vanillasalt Dec 6, 2015
Title Kiss Me Spoiler
Major Spoiler!!!! Well, not really considering that most of us here have watched every other remake of this show…
Essentially from the horse's mouth and he also changes his hair color back to black lol..:

https://www.facebook.com/kissmethai/posts/1261174270566792

EXTREMELY BIG SPOILERS FOR THE SHOW PROCEED SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT 2 EPISODES DON'T READ BELOW!!!

btw... Please note that daratruelife is with the production company putting this series on tv. Another person from production leaked the storyline for both ep. 19 & ep. 20 since, of course, we know that it hasn't been aired yet in Thailand. I have no idea why they're doing this other than HONESTLY they are getting a lot of hate, the production team and director, for this version of Itazura and the changes they have made... It seems they want to assure people that they will be together but they STILL don't get why there's hate to begin with, it's not just the "get together" part. Essentially ep. 19 will be more of the same frustration with TenTen seeing Taliw together with King and thinking it's over for him. In ep. 20, Taliw finally gives the engagement ring back to King -- and this whole aspect really pisses me off because that's just NOT Kotoko's persona whatsoever -- at the restaurant and run into TenTen on the way out. TenTen will ask her to be with him but Taliw will actually "REJECT" TenTen's initial request to be with her... ??? Then TenTen supposedly will go to King and tell him to take care of her, and have King punch him and tell him about Taliw giving back the ring. TenTen will make a 2nd attempt to get to Taliw BUT this time he'll do it by giving her a copy of their picture in their youth, that she has "amnesia" over, along with a LETTER he wrote to her BACK THEN and it's this time she will accept him.... and hearing these spoilers from the production company, my end conclusion to this version.. INCLUDING ONLY GETTING AN ENGAGEMENT CEREMONY is that it is one BIG fail in trying to adjust the storyline to FANBASE compliants and not being TRUE to the ORIGINAL!!! It ended up making Taliw AND TenTen look like huge emotionally constipated asses. Sorry, just my opinion. It didn't come off well in the end, although the beginning seemed pretty hopeful.

...and worse yet is the idea they will be doing a SEASON 2, with this story arc... ???? HOW???? How can they have bed scenes and the pregnancy misunderstanding with TenTen's mom, etc. if they cannot get married until they become doctor and nurse???? I just don't see how season 2 can do Itazura any justices whatsoever... it's just gonna take what ended up failing in Season 1 and prolong it into Season 2.. and you cannot have ANY confidence in Taliw/TenTen's relationship like you could in Season 2 BECAUSE they won't be MARRIED. It means she and him have just as much ability to break up as she did with KING in the end. ....Can't see it being very good. ....but hey, doesn't mean I won't watch it like watching a train wreck.. wanting to divert my eyes but just not being able to do it.
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Replying to vanillasalt Dec 6, 2015
Title Kiss Me Spoiler
Major Spoiler!!!! Well, not really considering that most of us here have watched every other remake of this show…
Sorry, there isn't a wedding. There is only an engagement party. They won't be able to get married. It's confirmed that Thai culture won't allow it. This is sad. They should have told us from the start, I believe. It's against the law in Thailand for students to get married,thus, even for season 2, until they are actually a nurse and doctor they cannot get married, just be promised to each other. I don't know how that's gonna play for all the bed scenes that happen in S2, etc. so, the only thing that can happen for Kiss Me Thai is for it to become more further away from the original story arc.
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On Kiss Me Dec 6, 2015
Title Kiss Me Spoiler
I'm sorry if you think this is a "spoiler" but I think it needs to be openly noted going forward and for people to make decisions on whether they'll watch a S2 while it's airing or even avoid it completely. ....because we all KNOW how the story should end, etc.... But I just confirmed with Thai sources that TenTen & Taliw may very well get engaged but they most certainly will NOT get married. They won't even be able to get married for S2. This all has to do with Thai culture. Thus, since both TenTen & Taliw are college students, until they actually become a doctor and nurse, they will not be able to get married or at least that's what is being said by the production team. As far as I can gather, they should be able to get married by the age of 18 in Thailand. How old are Taliw/TenTen supposed to be? I don't understand what law that was enacted that means they cannot get married at 18 if they are students. ??? Weird

Anyway, if they don't have them marry, I'm not sure how that's gonna play out for all the Naoki/Kotoko bed scenes that are paramount in any version's season 2... but that's where we stand. It's an engagement ONLY not an actual wedding.

[EDITED AFTER A BIT OF RESEARCH] == This whole thing that the Kiss Me production team is putting out about engagement and "students not being able to marry" seems extremely dubious to me. Unless someone can provide me with the Thai Marriage Law regarding this, which I cannot find anywhere, I don't believe what they're telling us.

I researched the educational system and noted that in order for Taliw to have entered into Nursing School she would have, at a minimum, passed 12 years of education putting her at the age of 16. In this version, she does not pass the test, because she goes out with King & doesn't study to TenTen's liking, which means she didn't go straight into Nursing School after graduation. That means she didn't enter Nursing school for up to 6 months to a year. That puts Taliw at 16 years old going to upper division school. From that point, to now we know that TenTen & Taliw had a birthday together, when they kiss, AND a birthday a part, when he is with Nana and she is with King and her dad. That's 2 years AFTER she enters Nursing School. That means she has to be AT LEAST 17 or 18 years old.

As far as I can gather from Thailand's Marriage Laws, with OR without parents consent, and including a dowry from the man, a couple are at the legal age of consent to marry by 17 years old. I find no LAW that states that a STUDENT over the age of 17 is barred from legally consenting to marriage at 17 or older. PLUS, there is a law that says, "if both sides parents give approval, marriage earlier than 17 can be approved by the courts." Thus, we ALL know that this is HOW Kotoko/Naoki are allowed to get married so young in Japan themselves, BECAUSE both sides parents approved of them wanting to get married and supported/allowed it. It would be NO DIFFERENT in Thailand... so I see absolutely NO REASON for them to bar Taliw/TenTen from getting married and ONLY having an engagement ceremony... this is very, very dubious on the writers part... I have no idea what they are doing but they started off so well, why are the screwing it up so bad now??? I, frankly, just don't get it.
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On My First Time Dec 6, 2015
Okay... Every time I see Kim Min Jae I get enthralled. He is so much like Song Joong Ki but even better because he can really sing and dance.... I mean, I cannot believe how multi-talented this kid is right now. For so new to acting as well, he is such a natural. Really impressed and cannot wait for him to give his own "The Innocent Man" performance. There are few that nail a character like that. I'm suspecting KMJ will be able to hit the mark... and for your viewing pleasure... a litte KMJ in checkered button up shirt dancing some hip-hop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59p3u4sOvsY&ab_channel=TimonYoun
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On The Third Way of Love Dec 5, 2015
The ending is cliche, predictable BS. There are 100 more ways to get money. The leads chemistry is huge. He is definitely kissing her for real. I cannot take Song Seung Heon with Chinese dubbing. It's worse than Siwon Chinese dubbing. Both their voices are really so beautiful naturally. SSH's acting is always so sterile, his voice is like the only thing going for him.
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Replying to Amastris Dratwka Dec 3, 2015
It's so hard to tell if this is good or not because all the people really watching this movie because of Wu Yi…
Exactly. I like explanatory comments that include why someone liked or didn't like something that is more than just "i don't like this guy" "i like this guy" "it was dumb" "it was cute". When someone explains more depth to why they like or didn't like something, sometimes it will make me want to watch something because another person's reason for "hating" it might very well be a reason I want to watch it. Just because someone doesn't like it doesn't necessarily give it meaning. The meaning is in the descriptors.
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Replying to Amastris Dratwka Dec 2, 2015
It's so hard to tell if this is good or not because all the people really watching this movie because of Wu Yi…
If that's the case why have mydramalist and give reviews or comments? Everyone can just watch for themselves and make their own opinion. It's not my meaning. Some people, like myself, have spent hours upon hours watching various dramas and movies. Investing that kind of time and emotion takes its toil on you. After a while you "get smart" and realize that getting a "gist" of things from others might just save you some time, if not some emotions, from wasting it on dramas and movies that start off nice and end in horror. Getting burned by it too many times and feeling like you just got gypped of your precious time makes you very wary to spend time on "the unknown".
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Replying to Amastris Dratwka Dec 2, 2015
Title Kiss Me Spoiler
Someone else pointed out that this version is starting to make TenTen look like a douchbag, and I'd say at a level…
There's a whole section that's absolutely whitewashed in this version that just never sat well with me. In this version you have her coming to see TenTen with an entourage and he takes her to the zoo to simple tell her "I'm going to be a doctor so what should you be?" Their dialogue is childish and there is no depth and true intimacy to it. It's sad because when they meet together at an amusement park he takes Nana to, now it has implications that he takes every girl to a park. It's no longer special and starts to lack its meaning. I know Thai's don't have an issue with sleeping in the same bed before marriage because I've seen other Thai dramas so I'm not sure why they choose to do it this way. Well, that's not entirely true. I did comment previously my worry about TenTen already knowing he wanted to be a doctor etc so there wasn't much reason to have the "taking Kotoko to his apartment scene".

This is what bothers me because that scene is integral to the relationship of TenTen & Taliw. In both the Japanese & Taiwanese versions [even if the reasoning behind how they get there are a bit different] Naoki takes Kotoko back to his apartment after a medical incident. In both versions, this is where TenTen would learn Taliw has "night blindness" which is an additional reason for Naoki to make the decision to be a doctor. In the Japanese version Naoki's bro had just been hospitalized so they have the "doctor" discussion at his home. In the Taiwanese version Naoki's bro gets hospitalized right afterward and they have the "doctor" discussion. His apt is also, in both versions, where she worries he's not attracted to her because he won't do anything and he explains his reason for leaving isn't that he doesn't like her but that he's trying to get out from the control of his family especially his mother and the feeling of a predestined life. Because of her and the chaos she brought into his life, he discovers he'd like to see if he can create a unique life of his own without the influence of his family. There is so much meaning behind these scenes but they cut them out of the Thai version and made the person who got sick Taliw's friend and TenTen already had a discussion with his little brother about wanting to be a doctor even before this incident. Yes, he has the worry Taliw got lost but still, it's just one of MANY reasons not THE reason for the decisions in his life. In this version it makes TenTen look more dictatorial and controlling in the way Taliw decides to be a nurse than in the others where the process is more fluid.

I really hate to say it, but in this version, where they seem to really be trying to make TenTen seem nicer and softer, he's actually coming across in the end more mean and uncaring. In the previous version, TenTen never kissed another girl or had another "girlfriend". The promise and what not were always family decisions and promises that he felt he had to make, not because he actually had feelings and wanted to be in a relationship... ... so even worse to say, "TenTen and Nana were once BOYFRIEND AND GIRLFRIEND". That's a BIG difference in my book to the other versions. It means that he's been able to care for another woman and make a commitment to another woman and, thus, his inability to make a decision and commitment to Taliw leads one, without any extra knowledge, to believe he never cared as much for Taliw as he does for Nana. What other conclusion can you draw?

Also, adding Mike's lewd song in the middle of it while driving Taliw doesn't help TenTen's image to not come across as playing 3 women at the same time.

I STILL like this version, I just think that the whole "TenTen is really just shy but a nice dude" is a big fail. Still enjoy the new dynamics, especially the new King 2nd lead. Interesting changes.
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On Somewhere Only We Know Dec 1, 2015
It's so hard to tell if this is good or not because all the people really watching this movie because of Wu Yi Fan. He's listed as the main role yet I read the supporting actor has the better part. I read Wu Yi Fan is either really great at acting since it's his 1st time OR that his acting is cringe-worthy and sucked and wasn't on par with the rest of the cast. Too many commenters on drama sites that have this movie saying "I couldn't make it past 1 hour" the story was disjointed and dragged... and then these others saying it was a "CUTE" love story, or that they "CRIED" for the alternative couple.. I just have no idea what to think SO, I think I'll pass on it and maybe comeback to it when I'm not really looking for something to watch that'll move me.
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On Kiss Me Dec 1, 2015
Title Kiss Me Spoiler
Someone else pointed out that this version is starting to make TenTen look like a douchbag, and I'd say at a level this is pretty accurate if not for some subtlety that you have to pay close attention to in order to give TenTen a break on his attitude.

1. The lack of interaction between Taliw, as far as significant conversations where they have mutual understanding, like other versions, makes him seem like a real jerk. In the other versions, there is only ONE kiss and it is done to tease her. He doesn't kiss on her over and over and make her believe there's more there. He keeps his indecision to himself and doesn't abuse his knowledge of her feelings for him. Unfortunately in this version it's kiss, reject with a verbal insult, kiss, reject AGAIN with a verbal insult. It's kinda more abusive than any of the other versions frankly.

2. His lack of ability to speak is even more poignant in this version. We see everything from everyone's perspective YET we have to keep in mind that what Taliw, & TenTen see are not complete. TenTen doesn't see that she accepts King because of his rejection. He thinks she is easily moved by King, because his mom put that into his mind. She sees Nana being physical and affectionate but doesn't see that he reacts shocked and uncomfortable by it. It's obvious TenTen has a distance to that relationship but he lacks communication to make things clear with everyone and thus looks like the douchebag that goes easily from one chick to another without feelings.

3. The only redeeming factor in all of this is that I know, from earlier episodes that TenTen made this decision not because of his dad or Nana or the business, like other versions, but because of his conversation with his mom where he made an unfeeling, mathematical calculation that he would not be able to make Taliw completely happy. He calculated that he already has an established relationship with Nana and doesn't need to concern himself with those kinds of emotions with her. He also made the final calculations that, in Taliw's best interest, King would be more compatible with her.

...the upswing is that, everytime he has to re-engage and confirm his calculation for himself by telling Taliw, insultingly, that this is the way it's supposed to be, his heart suffers even more each time... which means.. of course, that it will eventually burst like we all are anticipating.... unfortunately, with this version spending far too much time on Taliw and King's relationship and them spending time together, we'll end up having to wait until either ep. 19 OR GOD FORBID the final episode for TenTen to pull his head out of his ass and confess to Taliw.
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On Kiss Me Dec 1, 2015
Title Kiss Me
Now that I just watched the live version of ep. 18, and yes, I don't speak Thai but I can follow the gist of what's happening, I have to say that I really like this version and hate this version all at the same time. Never thought it would be possible. There are aspects that are better in this version but in other ways there is a disconnect and dragging feeling. As to not spoil it for anyone, I put my spoiler info in another post but just say here that the worst part for me and a way to show how I love/hate this version is that King gets FAR too much time with Taliw which makes you feel more connected to them as a couple than TenTen with her, YET I like this version of King because he's not ridiculous and is kind/caring in a way that's special with Taliw. ...makes me pretty salty actually...
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Replying to SweetSentient Nov 29, 2015
Title Love 911
Does anyone know where I can watch this?
It's up at KissAsian.com
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On The Left Ear Nov 28, 2015
Title The Left Ear
This was a good movie. Although at the beginning I was a bit perturbed that is seemed the supporting characters were the actually the main characters and vice versa. Yet, the story in itself is a really good one that it held my attention. I'm glad because the final outcome and how it got there was really nice and somewhat poignant.
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