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Replying to ArtemisPrime • 12 days ago
The part the ML lead's family played in her family's downfall is so insignificant that it almost doesn't matter.…
Yes, he doesn't have a lot going for him right now and from the trailer he does even more unlikable things. I can't wait to see how it's handled
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Replying to ArtemisPrime • 12 days ago
The part the ML lead's family played in her family's downfall is so insignificant that it almost doesn't matter.…
From the vague descriptions we've gotten about him, he seems like an opportunist social climber who isn't proud of his humble background. He might have felt disdained by Grandpa Shen at some point and decided to move against him
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Replying to DocMcstuffins • 12 days ago
I don't like anyone but the FL and the maids. The world is so small in these dramas, I dont understand why FL…
The part the ML lead's family played in her family's downfall is so insignificant that it almost doesn't matter. The Emperor was the one who ordered their death. The Lin family was tipped off that he was going to go after both families but failed to warn the Shen family but warning them wouldn't have done anything because the FL's grandfather absolutely refused to change his stance and denounce the former Emperor.

It's also implied by the narrative that Grandpa Shen knew that the Emperor would strike judging by the way Grandma Shen carried poison around and Grandpa Shen's lack of surprise when the Jinyiwei came to arrest them (he's also a second ranked official like Grandpa Lin, so realistically there's no way he wouldn't have been tipped off about the Emperor's intentions too because he's just as well connected). Judging from what Grandma Shen said, He just didn't think the Emperor would wipe out his entire family.
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Replying to Paulina • 12 days ago
Finally binged all episodes today and am loving it. How did the rating go from 8.3 to 7.9?? All I’ve been seeing…
Ratings always go down in the first 2 days of any drama's premiere because only a small percentage of the people that are currently watching have rated the episodes. It would go back up when more people start rating
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Replying to cherryisha • 13 days ago
Honestly same! The ONLY cdrama that I have ever watched and cried on the FIRST episode was Lost you Forever. But…
The script writer for this drama wrote both the novel and script of Lost You Forever. She's really good at evoking emotions.
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Replying to eliteles1 • 13 days ago
Title Against the Current Spoiler
She is preventing the wickedness of her "daughter-in-law" and stopping "some" acts of cruelty.…
This isn't a good excuse for her actions btw. Many people have been harmed by her need to make more money.


Yes, Ji'er deserved to be punished but beating her to death is overkill for what she actually did.

If she wasn't engaged in illegal activities why would she care that a maid went to serve tea to a husband she doesn't even love or care about.
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Replying to rgrgpluto • 13 days ago
Can someone clarify what Madam Zhao(ML wife) did to some poor families? ML showed some complaint letter by the…
She's giving loans with very high interest rates that are above the legal limit
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Replying to ArtemisPrime • Jul 30, 2026
Tang Dynasty makeup style. They used lead or powder made from rice to get a white looking face
Yeah, it was the beauty standard back then.
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Replying to H-K-D • Jul 29, 2026
i have watched till ep3..... it's bit distracting but i am no expert here but why FL 's neck is different than…
Tang Dynasty makeup style. They used lead or powder made from rice to get a white looking face
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Replying to ArtemisPrime • May 19, 2026
Come on now. You know that's not true. Yeah, the kissing isn't great but saying they don't have chemistry is wild
You're not obsessing...right. if you say so 😏
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Replying to ArtemisPrime • May 19, 2026
Come on now. You know that's not true. Yeah, the kissing isn't great but saying they don't have chemistry is wild
Resorting to ad hominems now are we? This seems a little too much like projection to me. Clearly I'm not the one here obsessing about, and I quote "the chemistry of a sexual variety" as between the leads. Maybe you should have left it out of the convo instead of bringing it up in the first place.
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Replying to ArtemisPrime • May 19, 2026
Come on now. You know that's not true. Yeah, the kissing isn't great but saying they don't have chemistry is wild
Exactly! It's a cdrama. Which is why sexual chemistry isn't really necessary. If they have enough acting skills and onscreen chemistry to sell a romance it's fine. IMO Sexual chemistry becomes a necessity when you're required to act a love scene together. If this were a show like Bridgerton then complaints about lack of sexual chemistry is valid
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Replying to ArtemisPrime • May 19, 2026
Come on now. You know that's not true. Yeah, the kissing isn't great but saying they don't have chemistry is wild
They have just enough to sell the idea that there's a romance between their characters. We as the viewers don't necessarily need them to have intense sexual chemistry...they're co-workers and are not in a relationship. Besides they're starring in a cdrama which is usually infamously censored and not a R-rated erotic romantic drama so we're aware of exactly what we're watching and are managing our expectations
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Replying to T.S.Johnson • May 18, 2026
Ya'll do realize that many of ya'lls visceral hatred of Ye Xian proves my point that he's the best written character…
Well written ≠ Likable character and Badly written ≠ Unlikable character. A villain can be well written and a protagonist designed to be loved by the audience can have a badly written character arc.

Nobody is doubting that Ye Xian is a well written . The fact that he's is provoking a lot of negative emotions in the viewers means the scriptwriter was very successful in creating a believable polarising character.
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Replying to T.S.Johnson • May 18, 2026
The leads have no sexual chemistry and it's so odd. lolLike they have chemistry (romantic, sincere, playful) but…
Come on now. You know that's not true. Yeah, the kissing isn't great but saying they don't have chemistry is wild
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Replying to Michelle Topham • May 18, 2026
Last time I checked on Douban it had bumped up to a 5.7, but yep, still way too low. But... I'm not surprised.…
It was The First Frost. They got a 5.4 rating so the drama team started promoting its international success
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Replying to Michelle Topham • May 18, 2026
Last time I checked on Douban it had bumped up to a 5.7, but yep, still way too low. But... I'm not surprised.…
The First Frost used MDL ratings to promote the show after they got a disappointing Douban score. I know another show did that too but I don't remember which one exactly
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Replying to A Splendid Match • May 16, 2026
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They're telling you to delete it so the site won't be taken down for copyright reasons. Mentioning openly like this it is only going to make the people who can't afford to pay for streaming services lose access to it permanently
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Replying to Roxy • May 14, 2026
I was confused by sister in-law’s reaction to Chen Yan Yu’s discussion of his proposal to Jin zhao. Is she…
Maybe they shifted GJZ's original storyline in the novel to her. Before her rebirth GJZ married CYY to be close to CXQ. Maybe this Sister in-law likes CYY and married his brother because she thought she'll be close to him
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On A Splendid Match • May 12, 2026
The music score they used at the Spring outing is so funny. It sounds like something you'd hear in a British regency drama and not a historical cdrama
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