people who complain about others discussing the stupidity of taking a gay manwha and removing the gay aspect are…
Adaptations carry cultural weight and reach a wider audience than the original works
Most people don't have the time, interest, or resources to seek out the original gay work. Their understanding of the story will be based on the adaptation. An adaptation that erases the gay aspect of a story denies representation to gay people
Censorship has political and social implications. Art is not separate from society, and the choices made in adapting a gay work have consequences beyond personal vision
Artistic freedom doesn't exempt artists from criticism. You should know that, you've been criticizing BL
The "critique" of BL on the grounds of perceived "unrealistic" or "problematic" elements is an "imposition" of external expectations or demands on BL creators. It conflicts with the principle of artistic freedom you're defending
Your one-dimensional "critique" of BL and our critique of censored adaptations of gay works can coexist within the framework of artistic freedom. The censored adaptation is an artistic compromise, prompting questions about the integrity of the original gay work and the motivations behind its homophobic modification
I'm disappointed that you believe your "arguments" were worth refuting. Blocking you wasn't a retreat; it was a rescue mission for my sanity
Your statement sounds like gibberish to me and smells of the Middle Ages. But you have the right to say so.I also…
Patriarchy isn't "dying"
The emergence of "sex positivity" is a modern repackaging of patriarchy that sells women. Women's bodies are possessed not only by individual men but also by society at large for their commercial potential/sexual appeal. They are unabashedly displayed and consumed by the public gaze
The public display of "sexual acts" isn't brave. It's a disconcerting, ignominious spectacle that debases the participants, undermines the value of decency and bears no relation to social progress
Where are the billions of "straight" identifying "allies" you speak of? I don't see them
"Most "straight" identifying people are homophobic" isn't prejudice, it's a summary of our collective lived experiences
"Straight" identifying people are everywhere, yes, have you seen how many of them are stuck in traffic during rush hour? We should start a movement for them to switch lanes—to celibacy, for example. Less kids, less traffic, and this rock will breathe a sigh of relief
Anika, you openly ridiculed me for using they/them pronouns. Who is the real homophobe here?
@AbuHammer is a BL know-it-all who hasn't watched or read a single BL. We’ve been calling them out for ages, and they've been coming back for more. I wish we could install a verbal filter on them
Anika, you openly ridiculed me for using they/them pronouns. Who is the real homophobe here?
Not using preferred pronouns isn't a sign of homophobia. It's a sign of someone keeping it real and calling a spade a spade, or a person by their correct pronouns
Hmmm Hello??? the writer/owner of the webcomic gave them permission to do it. At the end of the day the owner…
A wave of progress needs its cheerleaders and marching band. BL might not have been the first activist in line. It's still part of the rainbow parade
The gender identity ideology, with its "trans-the-gay-away" dark magic trick and "a-man-in-a-dress-is-a-woman" costume party, is a game of homophobia and misogyny gone wrong. Accusations of homophobia and misogyny coming from the people who can’t tell a man from a woman lack credibility
Favoring gay men's stories isn't a fetishization of gay men. Favoring superhero stories isn't a fetishization of spandex and capes. Favoring British period stories isn't a fetishization of tea and crumpets. It's called having interests
NO ONE is stopping you from watching. You can knock yourself out for all we care. Your streaming on pirated site…
BL isn't stagnant or frozen in time. It has expanded since its early days of relying on tropes and stereotypes
Rape fantasies and tragic endings don't define the genre. The majority of contemporary BL works feature positive representation and happy endings. BL creators and fans are actively advocating for "consent" and healthy relationships
Take a moment to remember the harmful "bury your gays" trope in mainstream media. The BL /GL universe relishes the joy of happy endings, undisturbed by the worry of outlandish calamities striking gay couples. It's a breath of fresh air
Representation is a journey. A journey of a thousand miles (realistic representation) begins with a single step (BL/GL). Any representation is better than none and moves us closer to our destination
Previously, you lauded fiction's "creative liberty" and its ability to do whatever it wants. BL spreading its creative wings and incorporating unrealistic or problematic elements wouldn't be a human rights violation
Your chip does need an upgrade. Repeating a lie ad nauseam doesn't make it true, it makes you sound like a broken record
people who complain about others discussing the stupidity of taking a gay manwha and removing the gay aspect are…
It's not a one-to-one comparison
"Straight" stories dominate mainstream media. Adapting a "straight" movie into a gay novel is adding representation where it's lacking. Removing the "gay" from the gay novel is erasing/taking away limited representation and setting a dangerous precedent
Artists have a responsibility to use the power of art with consideration for marginalized communities
NO ONE is stopping you from watching. You can knock yourself out for all we care. Your streaming on pirated site…
There exists a portion of gay people who find value and representation in BL/GL. We don't perceive ourselves as being fetishized or objectified by the genre
Dismissing the genre and the diverse experiences of its fans, gatekeeping who can write about gay/lesbian experiences, engenders an array of problematic implications
Next thing you know, you will be asking for ID checks at the bookstore. "Ma'am, you can't buy a lesbian romance novel unless you're a certified lesbian"
Where is the end of the slippery slope? Should we delimit the discourse on pasta to those of Italian descent? Is a non-Japanese person ordering a bowl of ramen a fetishization of Japanese people and culture?
Your logic chip is malfunctioning. A mental reboot will clarify that the creation and enjoyment of different experiences aren't a form of fetishization. They are a reflection of our curiosity and imagination
Painting all generalizations with the same broad brush of stupidity isn't smart. Generalizations come in different flavors—some silly, some brilliant, and some that hit close to home and make you snort your tea through your nose
"Not all" doesn't prove that not every "straight" identifying person is a stagnant, sick cliché. Your actions will prove your one-of-a-kind, ally awesomeness
What's worse than a "straight" story? A "straight" story with added X-rated bits
Keep your bedroom activities under wraps, people. Breaking taboos isn't some kind of heroic feat. Stories like this should've been scrapped before they hit the screens
The categories of "nudity" and "sexual content" are ideological constructs designed to incite unhealthy, prurient interests
Imbued with a power dynamic, wherein the audience is an active, desiring subject and the depicted is a passive object of the (male, female) gaze, the two "pornographic" categories are tied to systems of oppression not conducive to an equitable society. They are a moral deviation devoid of artistic value that compromises the integrity of the mind and body
The taboos that govern the depiction of "nudity" and "sexual activity" are a vital function in safeguarding mental well-being. Men and women should possess the self-respect to abstain from the "straight" lifestyle and exercise discretion in revealing their private, bedroom activities
"Hit the Spot," along with any content that falls under the NSFW "straight" category, is deserving of the lowest possible rating. A 0/10
It always come down to personal tastes, which no one has the right to dismiss or criticize. For example, your…
Personal taste isn't an untouchable, holy grail. We can and should call out the uninspired characters of a "straight" story dripping with/soaked in NSFW content
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Most people don't have the time, interest, or resources to seek out the original gay work. Their understanding of the story will be based on the adaptation. An adaptation that erases the gay aspect of a story denies representation to gay people
Censorship has political and social implications. Art is not separate from society, and the choices made in adapting a gay work have consequences beyond personal vision
Artistic freedom doesn't exempt artists from criticism. You should know that, you've been criticizing BL
The "critique" of BL on the grounds of perceived "unrealistic" or "problematic" elements is an "imposition" of external expectations or demands on BL creators. It conflicts with the principle of artistic freedom you're defending
Your one-dimensional "critique" of BL and our critique of censored adaptations of gay works can coexist within the framework of artistic freedom. The censored adaptation is an artistic compromise, prompting questions about the integrity of the original gay work and the motivations behind its homophobic modification
I'm disappointed that you believe your "arguments" were worth refuting. Blocking you wasn't a retreat; it was a rescue mission for my sanity
The emergence of "sex positivity" is a modern repackaging of patriarchy that sells women. Women's bodies are possessed not only by individual men but also by society at large for their commercial potential/sexual appeal. They are unabashedly displayed and consumed by the public gaze
The public display of "sexual acts" isn't brave. It's a disconcerting, ignominious spectacle that debases the participants, undermines the value of decency and bears no relation to social progress
"Most "straight" identifying people are homophobic" isn't prejudice, it's a summary of our collective lived experiences
"Straight" identifying people are everywhere, yes, have you seen how many of them are stuck in traffic during rush hour? We should start a movement for them to switch lanes—to celibacy, for example. Less kids, less traffic, and this rock will breathe a sigh of relief
This is an opportunity for you to treat others' pronouns as you'd want yours treated
BL left an indelible mark on the canvas of gay representation. We should hope for more diverse representation, and support what's already there
The gender identity ideology, with its "trans-the-gay-away" dark magic trick and "a-man-in-a-dress-is-a-woman" costume party, is a game of homophobia and misogyny gone wrong. Accusations of homophobia and misogyny coming from the people who can’t tell a man from a woman lack credibility
Favoring gay men's stories isn't a fetishization of gay men. Favoring superhero stories isn't a fetishization of spandex and capes. Favoring British period stories isn't a fetishization of tea and crumpets. It's called having interests
Rape fantasies and tragic endings don't define the genre. The majority of contemporary BL works feature positive representation and happy endings. BL creators and fans are actively advocating for "consent" and healthy relationships
Take a moment to remember the harmful "bury your gays" trope in mainstream media. The BL /GL universe relishes the joy of happy endings, undisturbed by the worry of outlandish calamities striking gay couples. It's a breath of fresh air
Representation is a journey. A journey of a thousand miles (realistic representation) begins with a single step (BL/GL). Any representation is better than none and moves us closer to our destination
Previously, you lauded fiction's "creative liberty" and its ability to do whatever it wants. BL spreading its creative wings and incorporating unrealistic or problematic elements wouldn't be a human rights violation
Your chip does need an upgrade. Repeating a lie ad nauseam doesn't make it true, it makes you sound like a broken record
"Straight" stories dominate mainstream media. Adapting a "straight" movie into a gay novel is adding representation where it's lacking. Removing the "gay" from the gay novel is erasing/taking away limited representation and setting a dangerous precedent
Artists have a responsibility to use the power of art with consideration for marginalized communities
Dismissing the genre and the diverse experiences of its fans, gatekeeping who can write about gay/lesbian experiences, engenders an array of problematic implications
Next thing you know, you will be asking for ID checks at the bookstore. "Ma'am, you can't buy a lesbian romance novel unless you're a certified lesbian"
Where is the end of the slippery slope? Should we delimit the discourse on pasta to those of Italian descent? Is a non-Japanese person ordering a bowl of ramen a fetishization of Japanese people and culture?
Your logic chip is malfunctioning. A mental reboot will clarify that the creation and enjoyment of different experiences aren't a form of fetishization. They are a reflection of our curiosity and imagination
"Straight" identifying people called us sick. You flipped the script and called them sick
If they can't take the heat, they shouldn't have started the kitchen fire
"Not all" doesn't prove that not every "straight" identifying person is a stagnant, sick cliché. Your actions will prove your one-of-a-kind, ally awesomeness
Keep your bedroom activities under wraps, people. Breaking taboos isn't some kind of heroic feat. Stories like this should've been scrapped before they hit the screens
Imbued with a power dynamic, wherein the audience is an active, desiring subject and the depicted is a passive object of the (male, female) gaze, the two "pornographic" categories are tied to systems of oppression not conducive to an equitable society. They are a moral deviation devoid of artistic value that compromises the integrity of the mind and body
The taboos that govern the depiction of "nudity" and "sexual activity" are a vital function in safeguarding mental well-being. Men and women should possess the self-respect to abstain from the "straight" lifestyle and exercise discretion in revealing their private, bedroom activities
"Hit the Spot," along with any content that falls under the NSFW "straight" category, is deserving of the lowest possible rating. A 0/10
Other commenters made you feel disrespected and uncomfortable. It's better to disengage from the conversation. Your comfort should come first