**Preview of Episode 7 + Tong’s Reaction:**Tong can't stand another man getting close to Ming. This brings the…
Honestly, Joe is simply foolish and deeply in love with Ming. Ming doesn't even have to make any effort; Joe constantly runs into his arms.
The most frustrating part is that Joe doesn’t talk to anyone... he exhausts me. He’s the type of person you help once, twice, too many times without any effect.
Now, things will only get really interesting when Ming finds out about Joe and has to seek forgiveness... the rest will just be boring and uninteresting.
However, I really want to see Tong fall. I really want Ming to crush him under his shoes. Yes, I say Ming because you all know Joe will never do it—Joe is an idiot, kind but an idiot.
**Preview of Episode 7 + Tong’s Reaction:**Tong can't stand another man getting close to Ming. This brings the…
However, the people who say that Ming is the biggest red flag have clearly never seen *A Round Trip for Love*. Honestly, I advise you to steer clear of it...
**My Opinion on Episode 6:****Joe:** I have a lot of trouble understanding the choices Joe makes. It feels like…
**Preview of Episode 7 + Tong’s Reaction:**
Tong can't stand another man getting close to Ming. This brings the following question to mind: If May no longer wanted him and decided to divorce, would he be willing to sell his body to Ming just to keep the family money?
But isn't Tong a famous actor? He shouldn't be short of money...
If I understood the preview correctly, he is going to go so far as to push one of the exes of the new Joe to attempt sex just to show it to Ming. Simply because he wants to keep Ming to himself "just in case."
But how will Ming react when he learns the truth about Tong? When he finds out that Tong lied to him behind his back, when he learns that Tong asked for Joe to be sexually assaulted? Especially when he discovers that this Joe is HIS Joe.
Tong is truly a bad person, but I would like to know why he behaves this way.
**Joe:** I have a lot of trouble understanding the choices Joe makes. It feels like he has no self-respect. He chooses to prostitute himself for money instead of accepting money from Wut and Sol, which he could repay later. Instead, he chooses once again to cling to Ming for a whole year in exchange for money. So he deliberately chooses to prostitute himself instead of accepting help from those around him. And I think, and I know, that the fans of the series will still blame Ming for this. However, here it’s Joe who makes the request, not Ming. It’s Joe who sells a body that isn’t his own to save a woman who isn’t his mother.
This is to his credit. However, I don’t understand how his mother doesn’t notice that it’s no longer her son’s soul, or if she does notice, she pretends not to because she’s too happy that he’s alive.
But the worst part is that Joe has no qualms about playing someone else’s son. Do we ever hear his inner voice expressing remorse? I could never pretend to be someone else’s child without feeling bad about it.
I think this all shows Joe’s personality well. He prefers to degrade himself rather than accept help. He is incredibly stubborn. And honestly, the mother-son relationship makes me very uncomfortable.
Moving on to the rest of the episode, Joe is "intelligent" in that he tries to find solutions, but it always brings him closer to Ming. Even when Ming isn’t around, it seems Joe doesn’t know how to say "no."
**Ming:** In episode six, Ming behaved in a way that I find inappropriate. That is to say, one should not pay for prostitution services when they claim to love someone else and continually assert that this person is alive. Does he sincerely think Joe would be happy that he sleeps with a man who looks like him for money to save his mother from certain death?
Here, Ming is suspicious, and Joe is not very good at lying and hiding things.
**Wut and Sol:** The most normal characters, in my opinion, are Wut and maybe Sol. But Joe and Ming are definitely not good examples. Neither of them. Joe is a good person, but extremely naive, even a bit foolish... and Ming is intelligent and manipulative.
I’m a bit disappointed in this deal between them... Joe has no respect for himself, and Ming has no respect for his own wallet.
Can't help but agree haha. I was about to write a minor essay in this discussion thread questioning why on Earth…
I find it unfortunate too. Nobody is perfect, everyone has flaws, their own personality, their way of seeing things. And there isn't necessarily a culprit in an accident. Why insist on making Ming the culprit of an accident...
Can't help but agree haha. I was about to write a minor essay in this discussion thread questioning why on Earth…
Joe could have done many other things, but he didn’t try. He chose the easy way by agreeing to work with directors he knew were dangerous. I found the word! Free will! Joe made a choice; he has free will.
You are absolutely right when you explain that neither Ming nor Tong is responsible for Joe’s choices.
Joe is responsible for his choices. Ming is responsible for his. Tong is responsible for his.
Hating Ming and Tong for their behavior towards Joe has nothing to do with calling them murderers. I think people are blinded by their hatred.
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
If Sam commits suicide, it will be his choice. Society may have pushed him to it, but it will still be his choice. But here, there’s really no connection between the two situations.
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
I didn’t blame Joe. I never said Joe was an idiot and deserved to die.
I highlighted the realistic fact that when we make a decision, we think it through beforehand, and we are responsible for our choices. I didn’t say Joe was responsible for his death; of course, the production is responsible for his death.
I think the issue is that I don’t understand how anyone can blame Ming for Joe’s death.
Joe had choices: - Change his career. - Do the shoot. He chose the shoot. He also chose to take photos with Ming. He will choose to work with Tong. At what point will Joe not be responsible for his choices just because he’s an adorable character?
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
I’ll try to make it simple, as I think my English isn’t good enough yet.
- Ming is responsible for the physical assault on Joe. (We all agree on this.) - Tong is responsible for Joe losing his job. (As explained by Wut.) - Joe is responsible for deciding to take on a risky shoot. - The foreign production team is responsible for Joe’s death.
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
No, indeed, if he couldn’t keep his job, it’s explained that it’s Tong’s fault. Wut himself says: Tong got Joe fired. So the main person responsible for this job loss is Tong. But I did explain that Ming is also partly responsible.
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
I apologize if my English isn’t perfect, I’m not completely bilingual. But Joe didn’t choose to die; he chose to take the risk of dying despite repeated warnings from those around him. The ones responsible for Joe’s death are the foreign directors; they were the ones not following regulations. Ming had nothing to do with it—he didn’t even know where Joe was.
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
Oh, but I never said that Ming was a good person. Ming is a red flag. Ming is partly responsible for Joe losing his job. I'm not defending Ming at all. I just think we need to set aside sentimentality and try to understand the psychology and actions of the characters.
Of course, I yelled when Ming hit Joe. Of course, I think Joe deserves better.
But Ming has no responsibility for his death.
And if Joe decides to return to that agency, to work with Ming and Tong, it's his choice. He's a grown man. I think that if Ming really changes his behavior towards him in the future, and if Joe manages to forgive the physical assault, that's also Joe's choice.
Honestly, Sol deserves better than to be a replacement for Ming; otherwise, it would mean that it wasn’t so bad for Joe to be a replacement for Tong.
No, really, I think they are meant to be together. Ming needs a ray of sunshine, and Joe needs someone who is grounded and less naïve.
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
Everyone is entitled to their own point of view, but it would be interesting if the viewers tried to understand the character development and psychology. I feel that this is very important in this drama.
When Ming understands everything, do you honestly believe he will let Tong get away so easily? If Tong needed…
Everyone is entitled to their own point of view, but it would be interesting if the viewers tried to understand the character development and psychology. I feel that this is very important in this drama.
Ming was rude to Joe or say spoke to him in a certain way from the beginning. And yet Joe fell for him .... Sol…
I think you’re absolutely right! I don’t understand why Ming should completely change his personality. The only thing he needs to change is his behavior towards Joe.
He doesn’t need to change who he is with other people. Not everyone is naturally friendly; some people are cold and distant, and Ming is one of those people.
What would be shocking is if he completely changed his way of being...
Sol has never really interested Joe; they’re just friends. Joe doesn’t like him that way, and Sol deserves better than to be a second choice, a fallback option.
Wow, I think you are one of the few people who truly understand the drama and the characters. I don't even understand…
We just have to keep waiting for Ming's discovery. And we need to be patient with people who don't look for character development or expect a complete character change that goes against his personality.
Wow, I think you are one of the few people who truly understand the drama and the characters. I don't even understand…
I think that viewers need to find someone to blame for Joe's death without considering that he's an adult who makes his own choices. I can understand them, but if we push the psychological analysis further, every human being is responsible for their own actions.
The most frustrating part is that Joe doesn’t talk to anyone... he exhausts me. He’s the type of person you help once, twice, too many times without any effect.
Now, things will only get really interesting when Ming finds out about Joe and has to seek forgiveness... the rest will just be boring and uninteresting.
However, I really want to see Tong fall. I really want Ming to crush him under his shoes. Yes, I say Ming because you all know Joe will never do it—Joe is an idiot, kind but an idiot.
Tong can't stand another man getting close to Ming. This brings the following question to mind: If May no longer wanted him and decided to divorce, would he be willing to sell his body to Ming just to keep the family money?
But isn't Tong a famous actor? He shouldn't be short of money...
If I understood the preview correctly, he is going to go so far as to push one of the exes of the new Joe to attempt sex just to show it to Ming. Simply because he wants to keep Ming to himself "just in case."
But how will Ming react when he learns the truth about Tong? When he finds out that Tong lied to him behind his back, when he learns that Tong asked for Joe to be sexually assaulted? Especially when he discovers that this Joe is HIS Joe.
Tong is truly a bad person, but I would like to know why he behaves this way.
**Joe:** I have a lot of trouble understanding the choices Joe makes. It feels like he has no self-respect. He chooses to prostitute himself for money instead of accepting money from Wut and Sol, which he could repay later. Instead, he chooses once again to cling to Ming for a whole year in exchange for money. So he deliberately chooses to prostitute himself instead of accepting help from those around him. And I think, and I know, that the fans of the series will still blame Ming for this. However, here it’s Joe who makes the request, not Ming. It’s Joe who sells a body that isn’t his own to save a woman who isn’t his mother.
This is to his credit. However, I don’t understand how his mother doesn’t notice that it’s no longer her son’s soul, or if she does notice, she pretends not to because she’s too happy that he’s alive.
But the worst part is that Joe has no qualms about playing someone else’s son. Do we ever hear his inner voice expressing remorse? I could never pretend to be someone else’s child without feeling bad about it.
I think this all shows Joe’s personality well. He prefers to degrade himself rather than accept help. He is incredibly stubborn. And honestly, the mother-son relationship makes me very uncomfortable.
Moving on to the rest of the episode, Joe is "intelligent" in that he tries to find solutions, but it always brings him closer to Ming. Even when Ming isn’t around, it seems Joe doesn’t know how to say "no."
**Ming:** In episode six, Ming behaved in a way that I find inappropriate. That is to say, one should not pay for prostitution services when they claim to love someone else and continually assert that this person is alive. Does he sincerely think Joe would be happy that he sleeps with a man who looks like him for money to save his mother from certain death?
Here, Ming is suspicious, and Joe is not very good at lying and hiding things.
**Wut and Sol:** The most normal characters, in my opinion, are Wut and maybe Sol. But Joe and Ming are definitely not good examples. Neither of them. Joe is a good person, but extremely naive, even a bit foolish... and Ming is intelligent and manipulative.
I’m a bit disappointed in this deal between them... Joe has no respect for himself, and Ming has no respect for his own wallet.
You are absolutely right when you explain that neither Ming nor Tong is responsible for Joe’s choices.
Joe is responsible for his choices.
Ming is responsible for his.
Tong is responsible for his.
Hating Ming and Tong for their behavior towards Joe has nothing to do with calling them murderers. I think people are blinded by their hatred.
Here, only the production is officially responsible for Joe’s death. Unfortunately, I doubt they will face any consequences.
Tong is responsible for Joe getting fired.
Ming is responsible for assault and kidnapping.
I highlighted the realistic fact that when we make a decision, we think it through beforehand, and we are responsible for our choices. I didn’t say Joe was responsible for his death; of course, the production is responsible for his death.
I think the issue is that I don’t understand how anyone can blame Ming for Joe’s death.
Joe had choices:
- Change his career.
- Do the shoot.
He chose the shoot.
He also chose to take photos with Ming.
He will choose to work with Tong.
At what point will Joe not be responsible for his choices just because he’s an adorable character?
Since Joe wasn’t under guardianship and didn’t have any known psychiatric disorders, he is responsible for his choices and actions.
Just as Ming is responsible for kidnapping and hitting him. He should have faced a trial for that.
- Ming is responsible for the physical assault on Joe. (We all agree on this.)
- Tong is responsible for Joe losing his job. (As explained by Wut.)
- Joe is responsible for deciding to take on a risky shoot.
- The foreign production team is responsible for Joe’s death.
Of course, I yelled when Ming hit Joe. Of course, I think Joe deserves better.
But Ming has no responsibility for his death.
And if Joe decides to return to that agency, to work with Ming and Tong, it's his choice. He's a grown man. I think that if Ming really changes his behavior towards him in the future, and if Joe manages to forgive the physical assault, that's also Joe's choice.
Honestly, Sol deserves better than to be a replacement for Ming; otherwise, it would mean that it wasn’t so bad for Joe to be a replacement for Tong.
No, really, I think they are meant to be together. Ming needs a ray of sunshine, and Joe needs someone who is grounded and less naïve.
He doesn’t need to change who he is with other people. Not everyone is naturally friendly; some people are cold and distant, and Ming is one of those people.
What would be shocking is if he completely changed his way of being...
Sol has never really interested Joe; they’re just friends. Joe doesn’t like him that way, and Sol deserves better than to be a second choice, a fallback option.
Soon, Joe will have his revenge.