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Scripts might not be the director’s fault if they’re not allowed to change them much or there’s not enough time to change them. Otherwise I think a director would definitely change this script. Apparently the final product is still better than the original script.

It might be the editing. I remember being worried about the editing after seeing the first two trailers. The show also lost 5 episodes. Rumor said it was all the shocking plots but they seem to still be there.

Never been so glad to see the end of a drama before😭 But now that means I’m in a drama drought until The Boundless Bright Moon airs🙂‍↕️

You just gotta roll with it if you keep watching 😭

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Youku you have really done all the bad things.
I’ve never seen a FL tormented from beginning to end like this.

I came here for a messy relationship (which this show delivers tenfold😂) but I find the most interesting and/or touching plots are the non-romantic ones. As the show draws to a close, I thought I’d still be watching for the romantic plot but I’m watching for the family plots instead. I want to know if Ling Xuefeng will truly give up his evil ways ? Will Cangcang and Zhong Lin stay ride or die besties? Will the nanny keep helping Du Tingxin ‘s descent into madness? Will the master’s secret ever be revealed?

He still married her when she was obviously unwilling. He could have said no.

Every time I see a barrage post telling the FL to die or that she needs to be replaced as empress, I have to wonder if everyone forgot the ML forced her into marriage. Maybe I don’t watch enough of these types of shows but it has been surreal watching the show unfold the romance from the perpetrator’s perspective. It even has the heart to vilify the victim for not loving her captor enough. Love and Crown, you are truly your own unique existence🙂‍↕️. You really got people out here believing the victim should be grateful to the man who took away her freedom. In 2025, I never thought I’d be tricked into watching a Stockholm Syndrome romance 💀

As a C-ent star gets older, they’re expected to take on more mature roles in more “serious” genres such as urban romance, suspense, crime, period, or serious historical drama. Idol dramas are like training wheels for stars. Especially the romantic or fantasy ones. They’re all about youth and good looks and they are where an actor often hones their acting skills. Idol dramas are basically their own category of dramas and Xianxia usually falls under it as I understand. So older actors playing lead roles in a genre like xianxia are thought to have not progressed or are sometimes the subject of ridicule.

TY is technically is a traffic star if remember correctly so I think ageism played the biggest part. It was all I kept seeing as a passerby which is weird because I think actors in their 30-40s are the best suited to play gods. Love and Destiny and Eternal Love uses older leads and they do a brilliant job. Younger ones usually don’t have the gravitas, life experience, or aura to pull off a thousand years old being.

Visuals+Age Bias. The poor costume design in some of the filming leaks made people think it wasn’t a good production so it faced an uphill battle. Plus, many people think stars over a certain age shouldn’t act in idol dramas-that idol dramas should be played by leads younger than 30. I think this also came out after Fanhua which was a big production with more mature roles for TY so people might not be as interested in her idol drama role.

She did run away 😂but he caught her and she went back 😅That scene wasn’t necessary though and didn’t even make sense. Cangcang doesn’t have to runaway to show she’s worried about the reality of returning to the palace. They could still meet at the restaurant. Cangcang could voice her worries to Zhong Lin and then Xiao Huan can come pick her up after not seeing her since he woke up. And she voice her worries to him too. It’s actually a good opportunity for them to have a heart to heart and perhaps that could have been the reconciliation scene people were looking for. But it seems the screenwriter wants to make viewers angry at Cangcang so they’ll believe she’d stab Xiao Huan later on.

To tell the truth, this production was to probably digest an old IP before it expired + promote some younger actors. I didn’t expect it to be profound but it is sad to see pretty much everyone in the crew let down by a lousy screenwriter. I mean I’m not even a screenwriter and I can see that the entire story could be centred around the complications, struggles, and aftermath of a political marriage based on a transaction.

Yeah, the editing is a big problem too. It can make or break a drama. I think if the editor had more skill, they could have salvaged the script because editing basically shapes the story.

I thought Du Tingxin said he knew but maybe that was her assumption, not fact.

Yeah, I don’t get the rhetoric about it being the worst drama either. The only element that significantly impacts the quality of the show is the script to me. And even the script is not entirely bad as can be seen with the show hitting 9000 within the first few days of airing.
I hope they don’t drag out the airing schedule. I was hoping the express package would be released today.

I think some scenes either didn’t get filmed or got cut because I saw a couple of people complaining about cuts while browsing Weibo.

I think the reconciliation is at the post station. LCC agreeing to return to the palace is basically telling XH that they’re back together. And they also cuddle. They didn’t really do that when they were in the palace arc so it also suggests a shift in their relationship to a better one.

I like her character too.

I think Cangcang character is quite realistic and rational considering her circumstances, but she is not a character design many people can accept when the world tells women that the most important relationship in their life should be a romantic one. Family and friends are secondary to husbands and many viewers bring this viewpoint into the dramas they watch. However, Cangcang challenges this viewpoint with her priority being her family. Many can’t understand it and some have even demonised her for it but her familial affection is logical in the setting.

From a real world perspective, family ties have always been important throughout history. They often dictated a person’s actions and sometimes even their life. L&C follows this thinking otherwise Ling Xuefeng wouldn’t be able to use family affection to pressure Cangcang and the Empress Dowager wouldn’t have been so angry at Xiao Qianqing’s choice of wife. And it’s partially due to these family ties that there is so much friction between LCC and XH.

Ling Xuefeng and Cangcang embody the social media quote "It's ok for a father to spoil his daughter, that way no man can ever come in her life later and control her with money or gifts" but get rid of the money and gifts and that’s basically the drama’s situation. Before she realises her family is using her and things aren’t always as they seem, all of the men in Cangcang’s family will seem better than Xiao Huan who appears to be a constant source of hurt. And as her protectors for most of her life and her strongest backing, when she gets hurt, she will go back to them rather than a husband who seems unreliable. That said, no matter what, Cangcang would be in a difficult position because even though her family is her biggest backing, it is also Xiao Huan’s biggest threat. If he wants to rule in his own right, he will want to eliminate them politically, which is what he does and there’s nothing wrong with that.

As for the criminal elements in the Ling family, Cangcang clearly doesn’t accept them and she fights against them when she’s in the martial arts world. Her alignment with Xiao Huan after learning the truth also reflects this and if Xiao Huan did condemn them, I believe she would accept it even it upset her. I’m actually a bit annoyed the screenwriter chose to create such a black and white situation by using the stereotypical evil minister trope when LXF and XH were already set up to have a relationship of conflict. One is a traditionalist who wants to keep the status quo and one is a reformer who wants to change things up- they will naturally and very realistically butt heads. XH’s shift away from the Ling family to his own power base will also cause conflict as the Lings will want to hold onto power. There’s no need for the cheesy Lingbi storyline.

Cangcang’s good qualities were always there but maybe viewers didn’t feel the recipients were worthy of them. The same compassion LCC has for XY is the same compassion she had for LXX. And the same strength she is showing XH was the strength she had showed the Ling family when she became empress. It hasn’t changed. It’s just the object has become more acceptable.

I feel like the major problem with the romance of this show is that the screenwriter has thrown in a bunch of messy elements and scenarios to make the audience feel like Xiao Huan deserves Cangcang’s love but hasn’t done the work to make Cangcang as a character feel that love. Hence, the 10 episode long gridlock. It’s fair that maybe the palace wasn’t the place to rebuild a relationship but the screenwriter should have shortened that arc to spend more time in the Jiangzhou/Kumor arc where the two have more freedom to reconnect. That’s where the book handles it and I think that’s how the drama should have handled too.

I think it’s implied that he knew.

The OST is really good!