In the 4th episode. I'm just trying to see what all this is ultimately leading up to. I think it's important to ace the landing on this one, otherwise, while pretty funny, it's going to feel heavily unrewarding.
I genuinely don't think they put the thought necessary on the casting. I feel it could have been much better with the right actors for the roles; this wasn't it. The actress for Sawako I don’t find pretty, though even if she was from what I see in a few comments, that's not a deterrent because Sawako was never supposed to be ugly. What bothers me is that she looks way too old for a young high schooler. Take that away, and judge it on their portrayals of the characters, and it's still a miss.
Watched and finished recently and just learned the grandparent and HK plot was not in the actual novel, and I just wonder why Chinese script writers just feel this incessant need to ruin a reasonable drama with unnecessary shit like this. Like why? Just follow the damn book.
Not that I had a big issue with those plots, but this easily could have been less episodes and those arcs are by far the weakest in the entire plot.
But I don’t understand how when none of the actors are the same and the parents house is not the same.
Chinese dramas do things differently when it comes to casting for prequels or sequels, and it's actually one of my pet peeves about it. I don't comprehend the semantics fully but it has something to do with production and perhaps the celebrity's own company, let alone whether or not they'll want to take a minor or side character role.
It is very unlike the West, where they at least try their best for actors who play certain characters to come back to reprise them, and majority of them actually do...not only out of loyalty, but perhaps personal fondness and love for their characters (look at Beetlejuice 2! Or even Ghostbusters, That's So Raven, Cory in the House, etc.). I don’t believe C-actors feel that way, especially since first billing is something people fight over all the time. It's money, money, money I bet.
"Just finished First Frost and honestly, it was torture. 32 episodes that could've easily been wrapped in…
I feel this whole thing is taking in the drama without understanding the theme, let alone the female lead or the nuances in her traumatized character. It was very clear to me she loved him, but had her own demons to deal with. I don’t know what fantasy world people live in where trauma is healed quickly, but that's not in any way true.
Coming from friends and others who have dealt with SA and their traumas, it's a long, arduous process that takes a long, long, LONG time to heal. And even then, you will always be healing. The novel depicts that incredibly realistically and the FL needs a ML that will be able to handle her trauma and give her the space she needs to progress at her own pace. You can witness her slowly changing and slowly opening up until she's able to receive San Yang's love and is able to finally give hers back.
I didn't find Du Ling Fei boring (if anything, I find that pink haired girl basic as f-u-k), but then I'm going…
Well, in that case, it's personal preference, yes. I didn't find Du Ling Fei boring at all, neither insulting as a character nor offensive. The only one I found completely basic as all hell was the Hou Xiao Mei chick. She's literally a nothing burger who the MC treats as a little sister (but somehow ends up a wife in the novel, lol, cause why not, MC status).
But none of the girls get that much screen time anyway. Even in the donghua that I watched. They sometimes just disappear (Ling Fei's reasons to do so make sense due to her situation). I did like what they did with Bai Xiao Chun and Du Ling Fei, especially considering the circumstances of the novel.
Now the live action drama might incorporate more romance because they always need the ML and FL. That's how they work. However, we don't know yet how they'll balance it. If you're just mad it's Du Ling Fei, then that's more of a you problem that can't be fixed.
I'm just saying she's the official love interest in every adaptation of the novel so far, like they consider her the main heroine.
As for the rape, no, I read they actually do rape him, date drug rape, three of the wives (your fave Song~, Hou, and that other creepy little sister ghost that gets into that one girl). They use the aphrodisiac elixirs he himself created on him and do so. He even said that if it wasn't for that he would still be a virgin. I heard really bad things on how Er Gen handles "romance". It sounds absolutely awful in A Will Eternal and the readers were just glad it wasn't a main focus to spare them the bad writing.
Thank gawd China banned that whole polygamy/harem nonsense. It's unnecessary. It's literally my most HATED genre and trope for plenty reasons, including that the girls like the MC just because he's the MC.
To be honest, years don't exactly equal power here. It all starts at the base. We don't know Bai Jue's background…
All I would do in that situation is defend Yuan Qi using Yuan Qi. If it's about power or lack of ability, the drama already explained his power was sealed majority of the run.
I'm not sure what other traits might be talked about, although I can assume it's about the feelings concerning their love interests. But if you watched both dramas, you should then know that Bai Jue was bashed a lot for his supposed cruelty and cold decision making.
So...
Also, those people sound stupid, no offense to them.
To be honest, years don't exactly equal power here. It all starts at the base. We don't know Bai Jue's background…
Bai Jue seemingly being stronger and more powerful is his entire point of existence (in a tragic way too, as he couldn't live freely). The comparison is unfair, but you can't make an argument against young, baby Bai Jue when there is nothing about young, baby Bai Jue to speak of. I doubt it took Bai Jue 60000 years to be crazy absurdly powerful, for example, because the world would have been screwed. Point blank. It's his job to defend it.
Let alone what power he had at 200. I would say he was full on kicking ass though since he's basically in charge of wars and well, fighting, and maintaining the realm via getting rid of dangerous threats/forces. He was duty bound from conception.
It just doesn't make sense to compare Yuan Qi to him. Folks are just obtuse and hateful. That's not Bai Jue's fault though, so there's no need to drag his name in the mud to prove a point, more so with no basis other than "nu fair he's older".
Well this one looks like they're gonna focus on the romance..... ugh... Just when I think, finally a Cultivation…
I didn't find Du Ling Fei boring (if anything, I find that pink haired girl basic as f-u-k), but then I'm going off the donghua (animation) here, whose romance with Ling Fei and MC is pretty decent/okay.
He seems VERY deeply in love with her. And they get all the similar sacrificial, declaration of protection/you need to live, intimate moments akin to the usual main couple tropes of these stories (like Soul Land, Jade Dynasty, etc.). Dude gets hardcore heartbroken every time she has to go, bless him. He even drowns himself in wine at one point. Even then, it's not the main focus, it just goes back to it once in a while. I mostly watch for Bai Xiao Chun being an utter freaking OP badass tbh.
But it seems both the adaptations of the novel consider Du Ling Fei THE love interest, so, there must be a reason why that is in the novel proper (is she like, the one he outright personally loves by heart/choice? And not by, you know, rape drugs?).
All I know about the novel based on complaints is that the romance utterly sucks (and it's a rapey wives harem, which...WTF, lmao...yikes), but it appears the adaptations improve upon it (a blessing really...). I'm definitely invested in Ling Fei and Xiao Chun in the donghua, so I'm thinking they would do a good job here too.
I'd like to ask. I plan to watch Ancient Love Poetry. But I watched 2 episodes and... Zhao Lu Si is Zhao Lu Si.…
You get more of the world building and certain mentioned characters if you watch Ancient Love Poetry, but it doesn't affect the understanding of the story.
To be honest, it might be even rather interesting to start with The Last Immortal and then go back to the past 🤔
Yuanqi is only 200 years old when The Last Immortal started off in the beginning.Bai Jue was 'at least' 60,000…
To be honest, years don't exactly equal power here. It all starts at the base. We don't know Bai Jue's background enough to ascertain what he did or didn't accomplish during his early years to make assumptions for analysis. Let alone the mistakes he made, which might be more attributed to youthful things and mishaps. What we do know is that he had much harsher training as a little child than the others because he was SPECIFICALLY created to be the most powerful, as HIS duty was to help maintain the balance of the world as a literal God of War and Fire on the warrior end of the role. He can go head to head with the Chief God for this reason (you know, like what happened with the one that rebelled before Shang Gu). If stuff goes awry, he has to be the one to fix it by way of kicking ass, lol. That's why he so cold and serious.
Qing Mu was just a part of him and on the Immortal realm, a baby really, but he was already incredibly badass despite that. The Bai Jue we see in any form after the God Realm episodes are basically a weaker version of himself. And he still feels very powerful and domineering. Just the restaurant fight with Qing Mu was cool, lol. No super power there, just good 'old fisticuffs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ014urJ8BE&pp=ygUPcWluZyBtdSBiYWkganVl
So overall, it's the direction of the story than anything else. Bai Jue (and Qing Mu) in general feel and are more badass since they are and get the chances to show it; I get why they would pit him against his son. But honestly that doesn't really matter. Their purposes for existing and how they exist are entirely different.
So let's stop the comparison with big daddy here just because certain people are being nasty, lol. He's an Ancient God directly born from the very being that spawned the world they live in to hold the fort.
If anything, it should be funner to see the ML go from the ground up, like Soul Land's Tang San and A Will Eternal's Bai Xiao Chun (although they had the genius lottery, but so does Yuan Qi).
I've been a fan of Xu Kai since his start in the Story if Yanxi Palace because that was his first drama streamed…
This post comes off as very passive aggressive to be honest, and I'm pretty certain you are, with how absurdly fake this whole thing feels. You know exactly what you are doing and you know exactly what to expect. Curious. How old are you?
And the "However, nobody can improve w/o listening to critics", also rings hollow when, you know, I doubt he's browsing My Drama List to listen to, uh, a random user's opinion on his acting with no credentials as a professional critic...
Xu Kai is a very good actor; he doesn't come off green and naturally settles into the character. There are parts that tend to be similar when he plays the comedic, "cheeky" character that I've noted, but his range is pretty incredible. Even when he's playing "cold" male characters in which he has to be rigid, he still expresses their emotion through his eyes. In fact, his eye acting is his greatest strength. You could read what the character is thinking and feeling just by that alone. He didn't capture me because of his looks in Falling Into Your Smile (my first drama with him) on Netflix, he captured me with how good his acting was. He's better than A LOT of these traffic actors if you ask me. And he matched and even exceeded Jing Tian in Wonderland of Love. He's getting praised for his acting as Li Ni.
Just like he did with Fuca Fuheng.
And others.
He's getting drama after drama since 2018, getting the views, getting the ad deals. After all these years active. Trust me, he doesn't need your "concern".
His acting isn't the problem, it's the scripts/dramas he chooses.
I am at episode 9, the drama is good, BUT wtf with the FL trying to exploit the ML's love for her?? The ML is…
Don't worry, you aren't alone in this sentiment about the FL. We've had a hearty discussion about this very same issue days ago and I specifically mentioned Ep. 9 as her being at her worst. So many red flags, it was practically no different with what's expected of Lady Gu.
She evens out that annoying trait as episodes go, but she does do it one more time when they are playing this balance game. But at least the ML finally focuses his irritation at her bs directly, which was what was needed to balance that out instead of "simping".
I genuinely don't think they put the thought necessary on the casting. I feel it could have been much better with the right actors for the roles; this wasn't it. The actress for Sawako I don’t find pretty, though even if she was from what I see in a few comments, that's not a deterrent because Sawako was never supposed to be ugly. What bothers me is that she looks way too old for a young high schooler. Take that away, and judge it on their portrayals of the characters, and it's still a miss.
Not that I had a big issue with those plots, but this easily could have been less episodes and those arcs are by far the weakest in the entire plot.
It is very unlike the West, where they at least try their best for actors who play certain characters to come back to reprise them, and majority of them actually do...not only out of loyalty, but perhaps personal fondness and love for their characters (look at Beetlejuice 2! Or even Ghostbusters, That's So Raven, Cory in the House, etc.). I don’t believe C-actors feel that way, especially since first billing is something people fight over all the time. It's money, money, money I bet.
Coming from friends and others who have dealt with SA and their traumas, it's a long, arduous process that takes a long, long, LONG time to heal. And even then, you will always be healing. The novel depicts that incredibly realistically and the FL needs a ML that will be able to handle her trauma and give her the space she needs to progress at her own pace. You can witness her slowly changing and slowly opening up until she's able to receive San Yang's love and is able to finally give hers back.
But none of the girls get that much screen time anyway. Even in the donghua that I watched. They sometimes just disappear (Ling Fei's reasons to do so make sense due to her situation). I did like what they did with Bai Xiao Chun and Du Ling Fei, especially considering the circumstances of the novel.
Now the live action drama might incorporate more romance because they always need the ML and FL. That's how they work. However, we don't know yet how they'll balance it. If you're just mad it's Du Ling Fei, then that's more of a you problem that can't be fixed.
I'm just saying she's the official love interest in every adaptation of the novel so far, like they consider her the main heroine.
As for the rape, no, I read they actually do rape him, date drug rape, three of the wives (your fave Song~, Hou, and that other creepy little sister ghost that gets into that one girl). They use the aphrodisiac elixirs he himself created on him and do so. He even said that if it wasn't for that he would still be a virgin. I heard really bad things on how Er Gen handles "romance". It sounds absolutely awful in A Will Eternal and the readers were just glad it wasn't a main focus to spare them the bad writing.
Thank gawd China banned that whole polygamy/harem nonsense. It's unnecessary. It's literally my most HATED genre and trope for plenty reasons, including that the girls like the MC just because he's the MC.
I'm not sure what other traits might be talked about, although I can assume it's about the feelings concerning their love interests. But if you watched both dramas, you should then know that Bai Jue was bashed a lot for his supposed cruelty and cold decision making.
So...
Also, those people sound stupid, no offense to them.
being stronger and more powerful is his entire point of existence (in a tragic way too, as he couldn't live freely). The comparison is unfair, but you can't make an argument against young, baby Bai Jue when there is nothing about young, baby Bai Jue to speak of. I doubt it took Bai Jue 60000 years to be crazy absurdly powerful, for example, because the world would have been screwed. Point blank. It's his job to defend it.
Let alone what power he had at 200. I would say he was full on kicking ass though since he's basically in charge of wars and well, fighting, and maintaining the realm via getting rid of dangerous threats/forces. He was duty bound from conception.
It just doesn't make sense to compare Yuan Qi to him. Folks are just obtuse and hateful. That's not Bai Jue's fault though, so there's no need to drag his name in the mud to prove a point, more so with no basis other than "nu fair he's older".
He seems VERY deeply in love with her. And they get all the similar sacrificial, declaration of protection/you need to live, intimate moments akin to the usual main couple tropes of these stories (like Soul Land, Jade Dynasty, etc.). Dude gets hardcore heartbroken every time she has to go, bless him. He even drowns himself in wine at one point. Even then, it's not the main focus, it just goes back to it once in a while. I mostly watch for Bai Xiao Chun being an utter freaking OP badass tbh.
But it seems both the adaptations of the novel consider Du Ling Fei THE love interest, so, there must be a reason why that is in the novel proper (is she like, the one he outright personally loves by heart/choice? And not by, you know, rape drugs?).
All I know about the novel based on complaints is that the romance utterly sucks (and it's a rapey wives harem, which...WTF, lmao...yikes), but it appears the adaptations improve upon it (a blessing really...). I'm definitely invested in Ling Fei and Xiao Chun in the donghua, so I'm thinking they would do a good job here too.
To be honest, it might be even rather interesting to start with The Last Immortal and then go back to the past 🤔
Qing Mu was just a part of him and on the Immortal realm, a baby really, but he was already incredibly badass despite that. The Bai Jue we see in any form after the God Realm episodes are basically a weaker version of himself. And he still feels very powerful and domineering. Just the restaurant fight with Qing Mu was cool, lol. No super power there, just good 'old fisticuffs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ014urJ8BE&pp=ygUPcWluZyBtdSBiYWkganVl
So overall, it's the direction of the story than anything else. Bai Jue (and Qing Mu) in general feel and are more badass since they are and get the chances to show it; I get why they would pit him against his son. But honestly that doesn't really matter. Their purposes for existing and how they exist are entirely different.
So let's stop the comparison with big daddy here just because certain people are being nasty, lol. He's an Ancient God directly born from the very being that spawned the world they live in to hold the fort.
If anything, it should be funner to see the ML go from the ground up, like Soul Land's Tang San and A Will Eternal's Bai Xiao Chun (although they had the genius lottery, but so does Yuan Qi).
And the "However, nobody can improve w/o listening to critics", also rings hollow when, you know, I doubt he's browsing My Drama List to listen to, uh, a random user's opinion on his acting with no credentials as a professional critic...
Xu Kai is a very good actor; he doesn't come off green and naturally settles into the character. There are parts that tend to be similar when he plays the comedic, "cheeky" character that I've noted, but his range is pretty incredible. Even when he's playing "cold" male characters in which he has to be rigid, he still expresses their emotion through his eyes. In fact, his eye acting is his greatest strength. You could read what the character is thinking and feeling just by that alone. He didn't capture me because of his looks in Falling Into Your Smile (my first drama with him) on Netflix, he captured me with how good his acting was. He's better than A LOT of these traffic actors if you ask me. And he matched and even exceeded Jing Tian in Wonderland of Love. He's getting praised for his acting as Li Ni.
Just like he did with Fuca Fuheng.
And others.
He's getting drama after drama since 2018, getting the views, getting the ad deals. After all these years active. Trust me, he doesn't need your "concern".
His acting isn't the problem, it's the scripts/dramas he chooses.
She evens out that annoying trait as episodes go, but she does do it one more time when they are playing this balance game. But at least the ML finally focuses his irritation at her bs directly, which was what was needed to balance that out instead of "simping".
Ageism is the only ugly look here.
Ageism is the only ugly look here.
I hope after the good reception of Wonderland of Love, Xu Kai's next projects are well scripted and directed and good. Praying.