Just starting this for LXY, HYX, and ARP, despite the meh reviews. For those still watching, do you think people were just invested in the previous FL and can't get used to the recasting or is the drama really lacking something? I liked HYX from her previous dramas, but I was impressed by the behind the scenes clips -- it can't be easy to reshoot everything on a green screen with the vast majority of the cast not even around to help set the mood and tone, and it was also nice to see LXY come back to reshoot some of their scenes...
Like the time void itself was confusing. Jinxiu was stuck in the time void in the past for he when he wished for…
lol, I should have read this before my rambling response, but I only just started the drama, so wasn't sure about getting spoilers...but time logic can be its own confusing issue, so sometimes i just ignore it and pretend it all makes sense! 😂
For me, the irritating thing about Chinese dramas is that there are a lot of missing details. Like is it because…
It depends on the context. For some dramas, it was because it was filmed before the episode limits were in place, so they had to edit it down somehow. For many others, it's because censors have asked that certain scenes or dialogue be removed, so sometimes a small but useful detail gets cut too simply because it happened to be in the same scene as whatever was censored. Sometimes what's cut *is* the thing they want to censor.
C dramas aren't the best when it comes to editing as it is, let alone when they *have* to edit to meet requirements to air. And because dramas often go through multiple rounds of review, imagine the potential hack job that can result if each review had different issues that needed to be edited. In that context, it's not easy to keep the flow and continuity at a consistent quality.
Finally, it can be a translation issue. I notice even when the subtitles are generally pretty decent, small details can sometimes be mistranslated or left out; other times, it's implied through clues in the dialogue or character titles, but without the cultural context/reference, people might not realize the connection. Among the major drama platforms, Viki's volunteer translators are the best in my experience for that sort of issue.
I am 💯with you on the FL's make-up and loving the angst, lol. It's soooo ridiculously over-the-top on the melodrama and ridiculous plot developments, but well worth it to see FZX pouring those difficult emotions into his scenes. I first saw him in My Girl back in 2020 and have watched almost everything he's done. He always delivers, even when he is the villain, and even when the drama itself is just meh. (I would add that I thought Wang Zuyi was also very good for a relative newcomer as the 2ML. This is his longest drama to date (he usually does 2-10 minute length ones that are fun to watch).)
Re the line about "bold departure" -- does Netflix normally drop an entire K-drama series at once in other markets? In North America, it's almost always two episodes a week over two excruciating months for 12 and 16-episode dramas. Only dramas shorter than around 10 episodes get dropped all at once over here, so by those standards, the Tangerines release schedule was actually quite fast.
I came here just to make some shallow comments 🫣, but who goes to bed with full makeup on?! And heavy makeup at that...I really like He Ruixian (she was great in Warm on a Cold Night and looked good in historical costume), but she's got way too much makeup on here. It's so unnecessary because she's already quite pretty (I much prefer the more natural styling they gave Bai Xia).
can someone tell me what is the overall rating of this and how it is doing in china?
There was some splashy promo posters when it opened with 7 on Douban, which is high/pretty good for Douban, especially on a series that came out with no expectations but gained a lot of viewers.
Ok so ending has anyone else notice that they are grouped off. The ones alive are on one side and those who past…
YES. I came here just to ask if anyone else noticed that as well. It felt like an outright suggestion that maybe he's already gone, since the lines are all blurred anyway in that final scene with the living and the dead interacting with one another. The more hopeful interpretation is that it represents the idea that he is still alive, yet not far off from that side of the world.
The ML is the Go rival kid from Hikaru No Go, a really excellent coming-of-age drama centred around the game of Go. Not sure I'll be able to watch him in this context, lol. 😅😂
OMG, this show...I am watching it with my husband and kids and we've been absolutely howling with laughter with each episode. The scenes with the bronze statue, painting, alpaca had us all in tears. We are still early in the show and just got to the first heartbreak, but they do an amazing job somehow with really making the simultaneous heartbreak and hilarity work -- everything is a matter of perspective, and the way they constantly show it is brilliant.
The contrasting points of view during the high school flashbacks are particularly poignant, because the same situation, viewed through completely different 'filters' or interpretations have lasting, yet completely different ramifications. And in present day, the clueless, lovelorn, but well-intentioned ML is as authentic as his heartbreak; but the FL mistakenly seeing him as a cruel, superficial, and harassing jerk is also real. I really look forward to seeing how this relationship between two very flawed, but well-intentioned and kind individuals unfold.
This is such a delightful, funny, and sweet drama with a cast full of very likable characters -- including the FL, who starts off somewhat annoying as she tries to gain her footing inside the Luo household, but over time reveals her true self once her place becomes more secure. Alen Fang channels the charm that won so many hearts in A Journey to Love and is well paired with Jelly Lin.
Many of the supporting casts are familiar to me from previous dramas, so it was nice to see them all together, sharing great friendships. I also appreciated that the brothers here genuinely care for one another, instead of plotting against each other -- a tiresome trope that seems more common than not in other historical dramas. And a benevolent (and funny) emperor too!
This is like a low budget/more basic or simpler, and fluffier version of the many female-empowerment-against-enormous-odds dramas we've seen recently -- Blossoms in Adversity, etc. -- so I can see why it might not rate as well, but I consider this an underrated little gem and think it deserves to be above 8.
C dramas aren't the best when it comes to editing as it is, let alone when they *have* to edit to meet requirements to air. And because dramas often go through multiple rounds of review, imagine the potential hack job that can result if each review had different issues that needed to be edited. In that context, it's not easy to keep the flow and continuity at a consistent quality.
Finally, it can be a translation issue. I notice even when the subtitles are generally pretty decent, small details can sometimes be mistranslated or left out; other times, it's implied through clues in the dialogue or character titles, but without the cultural context/reference, people might not realize the connection. Among the major drama platforms, Viki's volunteer translators are the best in my experience for that sort of issue.
(I would add that I thought Wang Zuyi was also very good for a relative newcomer as the 2ML. This is his longest drama to date (he usually does 2-10 minute length ones that are fun to watch).)
The contrasting points of view during the high school flashbacks are particularly poignant, because the same situation, viewed through completely different 'filters' or interpretations have lasting, yet completely different ramifications. And in present day, the clueless, lovelorn, but well-intentioned ML is as authentic as his heartbreak; but the FL mistakenly seeing him as a cruel, superficial, and harassing jerk is also real. I really look forward to seeing how this relationship between two very flawed, but well-intentioned and kind individuals unfold.
Many of the supporting casts are familiar to me from previous dramas, so it was nice to see them all together, sharing great friendships. I also appreciated that the brothers here genuinely care for one another, instead of plotting against each other -- a tiresome trope that seems more common than not in other historical dramas. And a benevolent (and funny) emperor too!
This is like a low budget/more basic or simpler, and fluffier version of the many female-empowerment-against-enormous-odds dramas we've seen recently -- Blossoms in Adversity, etc. -- so I can see why it might not rate as well, but I consider this an underrated little gem and think it deserves to be above 8.