Re the line about "bold departure" -- does Netflix normally drop an entire K-drama series at once in other markets? In North America, it's almost always two episodes a week over two excruciating months for 12 and 16-episode dramas. Only dramas shorter than around 10 episodes get dropped all at once over here, so by those standards, the Tangerines release schedule was actually quite fast.
I came here just to make some shallow comments 🫣, but who goes to bed with full makeup on?! And heavy makeup at that...I really like He Ruixian (she was great in Warm on a Cold Night and looked good in historical costume), but she's got way too much makeup on here. It's so unnecessary because she's already quite pretty (I much prefer the more natural styling they gave Bai Xia).
can someone tell me what is the overall rating of this and how it is doing in china?
There was some splashy promo posters when it opened with 7 on Douban, which is high/pretty good for Douban, especially on a series that came out with no expectations but gained a lot of viewers.
Ok so ending has anyone else notice that they are grouped off. The ones alive are on one side and those who past…
YES. I came here just to ask if anyone else noticed that as well. It felt like an outright suggestion that maybe he's already gone, since the lines are all blurred anyway in that final scene with the living and the dead interacting with one another. The more hopeful interpretation is that it represents the idea that he is still alive, yet not far off from that side of the world.
The ML is the Go rival kid from Hikaru No Go, a really excellent coming-of-age drama centred around the game of Go. Not sure I'll be able to watch him in this context, lol. 😅😂
OMG, this show...I am watching it with my husband and kids and we've been absolutely howling with laughter with each episode. The scenes with the bronze statue, painting, alpaca had us all in tears. We are still early in the show and just got to the first heartbreak, but they do an amazing job somehow with really making the simultaneous heartbreak and hilarity work -- everything is a matter of perspective, and the way they constantly show it is brilliant.
The contrasting points of view during the high school flashbacks are particularly poignant, because the same situation, viewed through completely different 'filters' or interpretations have lasting, yet completely different ramifications. And in present day, the clueless, lovelorn, but well-intentioned ML is as authentic as his heartbreak; but the FL mistakenly seeing him as a cruel, superficial, and harassing jerk is also real. I really look forward to seeing how this relationship between two very flawed, but well-intentioned and kind individuals unfold.
This is such a delightful, funny, and sweet drama with a cast full of very likable characters -- including the FL, who starts off somewhat annoying as she tries to gain her footing inside the Luo household, but over time reveals her true self once her place becomes more secure. Alen Fang channels the charm that won so many hearts in A Journey to Love and is well paired with Jelly Lin.
Many of the supporting casts are familiar to me from previous dramas, so it was nice to see them all together, sharing great friendships. I also appreciated that the brothers here genuinely care for one another, instead of plotting against each other -- a tiresome trope that seems more common than not in other historical dramas. And a benevolent (and funny) emperor too!
This is like a low budget/more basic or simpler, and fluffier version of the many female-empowerment-against-enormous-odds dramas we've seen recently -- Blossoms in Adversity, etc. -- so I can see why it might not rate as well, but I consider this an underrated little gem and think it deserves to be above 8.
a lot of scenes from the other episodes were edited out too
I see! I didn't know, since she seemed to be pretty prominent in a good chunk of them. The story was weaker when she was completely written out towards the end....Very sad situation...
So young! This is such a tragedy. The industry needs way more safeguards and accountability, especially given how young many of them are when they start.
(Just a side note about the article, if I recall though, she was in most of Bloodhounds, and only disappeared in the last couple of episodes? So not sure if "most of her scenes were edited out" is accurate.)
Why korean people are so toxic? Why they make celebrities life very hard? Literally one of the most toxic people…
That's a pretty sweeping comment about an entire culture/country. The Korean entertainment industry can be very toxic, many corners of the fandom can be very toxic, but calling Koreans "literally one of the most toxic people in the world" is, to put it gently, quite uncalled for.
I don't know how the algorithm works exactly, but the drama is technically still "airing" because the other "chapters" haven't aired yet ... it's broken into multiple mini arcs, each of which is its own series (and has its own MDL entry), but only one of them (the main one) has aired so far: https://kisskh.at/742625-jin-yong-wuxia-universe-tie-xie-dan-xin
I was so close to dropping this after the first half dozen episodes or so, but glad I persisted. I liked the final third the most, and I liked how everything came full circle, and all the threads came together in the end. I am normally not a fan of Yu Shuxin, but I thought she actually suited the Miaomiao character here -- and like LBFaD, I was able to overcome my hangups and enjoy it, lol. As an aside, I actually like the childhood connection trope, but I can't help but laugh anyway every time it shows up in a drama, because it invariably shows up 9 times out of 10, lol.
Random observation, but pretty sure the "nine-layered purple flower" they talk about is Chinese wisteria, right? Anyone able to confirm? They are beautiful, and I thought about planting them, but they are unfortunately pretty aggressive and somewhat invasive - they spread easily and are hard to get rid of (although their aggressive growth is considered an attribute in the drama :)).
I am rather surprised by the dismissive and negative reaction to this post. The cast is clearly not the ones being criticised at all -- they have nothing to do with this issue. Rather, the production process was being questioned.
Speaking as a long time journalist, an issue can still be newsworthy and interesting even if it's been resolved. If everything that gets resolved quietly is never publicized, how do people learn from it? Clearly original work had been copied without permission or attribution, this in itself is newsworthy for a high profile production. How many times have we seen a Hollywood headline about some film being accused of copyright infringement? There is visual proof and the author of the book explained that the designs in his book are speculative and not direct artifacts -- meaning they were his ideas.
Typically, both permission and some kind of fee or royalty would be required when using someone else's work in any kind of commercial project across any industry, not just film and TV. In this case, it seems obvious they settled this behind the scenes, and part of it was an apology from the production side and the other side taking a step back and offering a conciliatory public acknowledgement of that apology. Everyone comes out looking fairly good. No lasting harm done. Doesn't mean this story doesn't deserve to see the light of day.
I also personally think this is an interesting and newsworthy topic, as someone interested in the ins and outs of the industry behind the scenes, but also given copyright infringement issues are an ongoing challenge across many Chinese industries, with the regulatory environment and legal enforcement spotty in many cases. It is also noteworthy in the age of nascent AI learning and the debate over using other people's work without permission. Not everything is about trying to take down a celebrity or a show (though of course, sure, there will always be bad entities who delight in seeing it happen regardless of the original intent).
The contrasting points of view during the high school flashbacks are particularly poignant, because the same situation, viewed through completely different 'filters' or interpretations have lasting, yet completely different ramifications. And in present day, the clueless, lovelorn, but well-intentioned ML is as authentic as his heartbreak; but the FL mistakenly seeing him as a cruel, superficial, and harassing jerk is also real. I really look forward to seeing how this relationship between two very flawed, but well-intentioned and kind individuals unfold.
Many of the supporting casts are familiar to me from previous dramas, so it was nice to see them all together, sharing great friendships. I also appreciated that the brothers here genuinely care for one another, instead of plotting against each other -- a tiresome trope that seems more common than not in other historical dramas. And a benevolent (and funny) emperor too!
This is like a low budget/more basic or simpler, and fluffier version of the many female-empowerment-against-enormous-odds dramas we've seen recently -- Blossoms in Adversity, etc. -- so I can see why it might not rate as well, but I consider this an underrated little gem and think it deserves to be above 8.
(Just a side note about the article, if I recall though, she was in most of Bloodhounds, and only disappeared in the last couple of episodes? So not sure if "most of her scenes were edited out" is accurate.)
Speaking as a long time journalist, an issue can still be newsworthy and interesting even if it's been resolved. If everything that gets resolved quietly is never publicized, how do people learn from it? Clearly original work had been copied without permission or attribution, this in itself is newsworthy for a high profile production. How many times have we seen a Hollywood headline about some film being accused of copyright infringement? There is visual proof and the author of the book explained that the designs in his book are speculative and not direct artifacts -- meaning they were his ideas.
Typically, both permission and some kind of fee or royalty would be required when using someone else's work in any kind of commercial project across any industry, not just film and TV. In this case, it seems obvious they settled this behind the scenes, and part of it was an apology from the production side and the other side taking a step back and offering a conciliatory public acknowledgement of that apology. Everyone comes out looking fairly good. No lasting harm done. Doesn't mean this story doesn't deserve to see the light of day.
I also personally think this is an interesting and newsworthy topic, as someone interested in the ins and outs of the industry behind the scenes, but also given copyright infringement issues are an ongoing challenge across many Chinese industries, with the regulatory environment and legal enforcement spotty in many cases. It is also noteworthy in the age of nascent AI learning and the debate over using other people's work without permission. Not everything is about trying to take down a celebrity or a show (though of course, sure, there will always be bad entities who delight in seeing it happen regardless of the original intent).