Surely, no-one is concerned about the actors- just the characters.
Huh? You asked 2 questions I assumed were rhetorical, but still mentioned by stating my view on adulthood: Not about age, but responsibility. Of course, he shouldn't pursue the minor after 5p.m. He shouldn't pursue the minor at all. It was interesting speaking with you until you decided to refer to me as a "bullshitter" for not sharing your views. Also, why would you presume to know more about my views than I do.
Surely, no-one is concerned about the actors- just the characters.
The adult is the one who is there to protect, mentor and teach the students. His age is not relevant, his role is. I have no reason to assume one way or another about how impressionable the teacher is. From 8:00 to 4:50, he should mask all of that and perform the role he's paid to perform (healthily, of course). I call Toki impressionable because of his reactions to everyone who is not unkind to him and his quick attachment and loyalty to those people. It's amusing that you believe my world to be so binary. My view on one thing does not reveal my views on another.
Surely, no-one is concerned about the actors- just the characters.
You're welcome to disagree. While you felt that way as a teen, remember there are those who aged and realised how incredibly young and immature they were as teens. Yeah, sure, WE can tell Sahara is mostly harmless; but those words and actions from others aren't so harmless. He's a minor with a crush, but the adult should know better.
No, the teacher's feelings FOR (not with) the student are not “suddenly.” They have been loving each other…
The first bit of that was irrelevant. No-one brought it up here. Secondly, as a second year, Toki IS 17, yes...but, why does his age matter? Age of majority and consent aren't the issue. Like, the first poster said: the teacher having feelings for his student is the issue. He's a P.E. teacher subbing for the homeroom teacher. You can tell he's a P.E. teacher without being told because of how he's dressed at school. He would've graduated uni, yes. He couldn't teach otherwise. Even if he were a genius who who skipped most of high school, got his degree in a year and passed the teaching exam his first try (doesn't always happen) making him younger than Toki, it'd still be an issue because he's Toki's TEACHER.
Surely, no-one is concerned about the actors- just the characters.
When asked to define what I mean, yes. I believe directing someone to a dictionary is best, as that way they are aware of what I mean. To do that, I go to a dictionary to make sure I did not use the word/term incorrectly and my intent can be made clear. *smile*
Yes. I WOULD like the teacher to ignore his feeling when infront of his student. He can admit it to himself or his friends, sure.... but not his impressionable student who has such a loud crush on him.
"Wait for me" was my biggest issue with that episode.
At no point in any of my comments or responses did I indicate I wanted to stop watching this show. I find Toki to be adorable. Furthermore, I'm an adult who consumes mainly romantic fiction, I don't have to agree with or like something to find it entertaining.
Is Toki and Sahara's relationship a pedophile relationship? Of course not.Pedophilic disorder is characterized…
It's...troubling that the age of consent is being discussed here. Why is the age of consent up for discussion? Fine, I'll join. All of that information is unnecessary because the drama is set in high school. First years are 15-16, so paedophilia is irrelevant. Ephebophilia, however......
This drama isn't sexualised (so far, at least), so (for me), the issue is with Sahara-SENSEI 'confessing' to Toki, laying his head on Toki's lap in such a moment, allowing himself to be embraced by Toki and encouraging Toki's crush. This drama is set in a country where teachers DO (way too often) end up marrying/dating their former students and scandals of teachers sleeping with multiple students (who usually don't tell anyone) are on the news and in gossip. Here, we have a teacher telling his homeroom student that he's into him and to keep it a secret. Then, we see Toki ACTUALLY going out of his way to keep himself from revealing it to his friends. So, yes. The relationship isn't paedophilic. Still, it is VERY wrong.
No, the teacher's feelings FOR (not with) the student are not “suddenly.” They have been loving each other…
*facepalm* As a second year student, Toki is 17. Sahara would have STARTED university at 19 and to be a teacher, he needs 4 years. He's not a student teacher (which would be in his 4th year of university) because he'd be shadowing the main teacher and would be in a black suit the whole time. Also, he'd be wearing a black suit for his first year (like the new teacher), so we know he's not a first year teacher (even if he teaches P.E.). They've even shown flashbacks of a primary school student and Sahara in high school at the river. Whether they're 2 years apart or 20 years apart, it doesn't matter, does it? ....So long as Toki is out of school and not under Sahara's care. High school isn't mandatory. If Toki drops out, then all's good. If Sahara transfers, then.....all won't be AS good for another year and some months, but it wouldn't be AS bad.
Surely, no-one is concerned about the actors- just the characters.
As in, my definition of concern? Verb1. As in, what am I concerned about (verb2)? As stated. The teacher character no longer distancing himself from his adolescent student's feelings of attration towards him. How they look is of zero relevance, is it not? Still, 2 more episodes to go! Time to clear up the misunderstandings from the past.
It is not uncommon to have teacher/student romances in Japanese dramas and not only in BLs. While in other countries…
IF Sahara was a new teacher who only just started that year, they'd be 6 years apart ( 4 years of university + 1 year for year 3 and Toki is in 2nd year, so maybe + that 1 year). Regardless of the age difference, the issue is with him being his teacher. His homeroom teacher, at that. In Japan, homeroom teachers are like parents. They're even called if students get in trouble outside of school (like police stations and such). They're the ones in charge of counselling and all that (as a school counsellor will probably only visit around once a week). I love Toki. No issue with Toki whatsoever. He's a teen. He's so endearingly adorable.
Yeah, yeah fate, love, sacrifice blah, blah, blah.... but, the gang, though. They need their happy ending. They've followed all the instructions given and come through every time.
Sunshine girl and sunshine boy need to meet so the main leads' romance can progress. He'll cook, she'll eat and they'll all live happily ever after (except the ex friend and boyfriend/husband).
Of course, he shouldn't pursue the minor after 5p.m. He shouldn't pursue the minor at all.
It was interesting speaking with you until you decided to refer to me as a "bullshitter" for not sharing your views. Also, why would you presume to know more about my views than I do.
I call Toki impressionable because of his reactions to everyone who is not unkind to him and his quick attachment and loyalty to those people.
It's amusing that you believe my world to be so binary. My view on one thing does not reveal my views on another.
While you felt that way as a teen, remember there are those who aged and realised how incredibly young and immature they were as teens. Yeah, sure, WE can tell Sahara is mostly harmless; but those words and actions from others aren't so harmless.
He's a minor with a crush, but the adult should know better.
He's a P.E. teacher subbing for the homeroom teacher. You can tell he's a P.E. teacher without being told because of how he's dressed at school. He would've graduated uni, yes. He couldn't teach otherwise.
Even if he were a genius who who skipped most of high school, got his degree in a year and passed the teaching exam his first try (doesn't always happen) making him younger than Toki, it'd still be an issue because he's Toki's TEACHER.
Yes. I WOULD like the teacher to ignore his feeling when infront of his student. He can admit it to himself or his friends, sure.... but not his impressionable student who has such a loud crush on him.
"Wait for me" was my biggest issue with that episode.
At no point in any of my comments or responses did I indicate I wanted to stop watching this show. I find Toki to be adorable. Furthermore, I'm an adult who consumes mainly romantic fiction, I don't have to agree with or like something to find it entertaining.
Fine, I'll join. All of that information is unnecessary because the drama is set in high school. First years are 15-16, so paedophilia is irrelevant. Ephebophilia, however......
This drama isn't sexualised (so far, at least), so (for me), the issue is with Sahara-SENSEI 'confessing' to Toki, laying his head on Toki's lap in such a moment, allowing himself to be embraced by Toki and encouraging Toki's crush. This drama is set in a country where teachers DO (way too often) end up marrying/dating their former students and scandals of teachers sleeping with multiple students (who usually don't tell anyone) are on the news and in gossip.
Here, we have a teacher telling his homeroom student that he's into him and to keep it a secret. Then, we see Toki ACTUALLY going out of his way to keep himself from revealing it to his friends.
So, yes. The relationship isn't paedophilic. Still, it is VERY wrong.
They've even shown flashbacks of a primary school student and Sahara in high school at the river.
Whether they're 2 years apart or 20 years apart, it doesn't matter, does it? ....So long as Toki is out of school and not under Sahara's care.
High school isn't mandatory. If Toki drops out, then all's good. If Sahara transfers, then.....all won't be AS good for another year and some months, but it wouldn't be AS bad.
As in, what am I concerned about (verb2)? As stated. The teacher character no longer distancing himself from his adolescent student's feelings of attration towards him.
How they look is of zero relevance, is it not?
Still, 2 more episodes to go! Time to clear up the misunderstandings from the past.
I love Toki. No issue with Toki whatsoever. He's a teen. He's so endearingly adorable.
The creators, however….
😂😂😂
I’m good. Excited