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Feeling the drama withdrawals!

I agree, and I think the editing team did a good job (I'm quite sensitive to the face-blurring elements but maybe it's the colour filters; I don't really see it in the drama)
but tbh I was looking forward to his pre-resurrection look, waiting for him to (if ever) hit that age in the drama.
And yeah, he does look good in real life but I argue the photoshopping was necessary because though we can say 'oh, you look as young as a high schooler!' there just are certain elements that don't fit, like your face tighter, wrinkles, eyelids, the part between the nose and mouth, etc. He looks like a 40-year-old with good genes and great skin care basically, but not to the extent of young. It's like what people say about Paul Rudd, I think.

I think I kind of get what you're saying? Because I love Nini as an actress, but I think her visuals re quite independent and strong, so her chemistry offsets in regards to a partner are pretty specific. I think 'softer' looking female leads seem to have more chemistry with more people. At the same time; I don't completely see what you're trying to say because to me Dilraba has a pretty 'strong' image as well, very obvious features and a long face, so for example I didn't watch the Blue Whisper because I couldn't (subjectively) see any potential chemistry between Dilraba and Allen Ren (Allen Ren has a short face, shorter in stature, if you disregard his armor Dilraba is tall with a long face, prominent). SJK is not in the same box because even though he retains certain more rounded, youngish looking features he has sharp corners in his eyes, a hectagonal? mouth, and his chin can be sharp at times. But I'd still categorize him in AROUND the same category, so I don't know how that'd work.

Sorry for the long analysis lol, you don't have to take me seriously.

Only thing is that Korea x China collabs are banned xd

I legitimately like the name 'Hando Steel', it's pretty cool.
I love the word 'Cheol' in Jin Yang Cheol as well, I feel like I don't hear it often for KDrama lead names, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaking of which, grandpa should do some business talk asmr which I would loop. I don't know why I like his accent so much lol.

That's to say, Douban specializes in groupthink, so.
L&P seems to be the chemistry-but honestly it hadn't caused as much of a splash as it seems. This one too, but I didn't know about L&P's douban score so idk why it's like that-all I'll say is, trust your own mind, not douban, imdB, or mdl lol.
As for this show, not perfect anywhere but is solid, insightful (reflective + social commentary), and also a fun watch. I know people talked about the costumes being unrealistic but I actually thought they were doing it on purpose so as to not make the workplace stuff that serious (since it's a backdrop, although a better one than some dramas), and made the whole comedy filter more apparent. So eh, idk.


(I'd say L&P utilizes a very outdated and unhealthy trope irl but the actors had enough charisma to not seem like simply selfish asses, but you can only do so much when you write around this trope that only goes in one direction)

Wait are you serious, this show CAME OUT and I didn't even realize...?

I agree with a comment below that this drama isn't 'mind-blowingly good'-like it's not making me swoon and faint or binge like crazy or whatever, but I look forward to each episode and enjoy them all the way through, and I think about it after, it makes me happy. And tbh a lot of the swoonish dramas for me have had some just 'agh' elements-hard to find a drama that can balance every element well and then excel in one in particular! This drama's above average on every level but doesn't hit the three-gold star mark on anything either.
Mayben because there's a slight slice-of-life vibe? I find slice-of-life dramas to rarely be addicting and 'swoonish' because it's sort of about vibes.

Definitely agree; sometimes people correlate old age to being good at acting but I've seen a fair share of old actors who have questionable acting skills...and literally it could be (fora far-fetched example) idols who age into their seventies and still have horrible acting skills.

In this case, gosh, he's really shoulder to shoulder to be the most thrilling character to watch.

yo JTBC is killing it

Oh, did the n get cut off in the end?

Why does the current summary state he wakes up as 'Jin Do JOO'? Shouldn't it be 'Jin Do Jun?'

though this is a Viu original, gotta say; one advantage of Netflix is its much wider access to international audiences and all the extra content; e.g the Viu clips don't get many views and they don't have much interactivity. (Since it's only Netflix in Korea rn as well).

That's such an interesting insight, and yeah, I can't tell between stuff, it just sounds a bit foreign. Thanks so much!

Noooo the business part is the most interesting part, I have no idea why people think it's boring. The business is actually the bubble they're all in. Seong Jun even directs his wedding, all his goals, and everything to Soonyang, so ofc he feels neglected and wronged all the time. The parents put all their burdens on their children and their children become horrible people. Business is where all the emotion is; where in front of their almighty father they repress everything and then they break down (probs in the office, or kicking an innocent staff worker) at some point; it's all the juiciness.
What a huge dysfunctional family, they're all so so so fake lol.

I basically agree with the comments rn; I'm not against the female lead because it's nice to have an extra focus, but she has zero personality. The only fixation on her is on the idea of the POSSIBILITY of her future personality in...TWENTY YEARS, wow; that's a lot of growing. Really. She's fine enough, doesn't do any harm, but when it's an obvious 'female lead' role, indifference isn't helpful. Rn I don't actually care about the second female lead now, nor do I think she's a healthy person, but she's INTERESTING and nuanced. So basically,

shake some of that salt and pepper on the female lead and give her a good personality mix.
Gah.

Oh, I forgot o mention but is it just me who thinks the grandfather's enunciation is super special and different, the tonation, etc..? It's super cool, I've never heard anyone have the same voice quality, and I keep repeating his lines in his voice lol (even though idk what he's saying).

Also, this is like the first time I could tell even as a non-Korean that Rachel speaks accented Korean. I think maybe it's the thicker rounding and unclear ends, and I'm not judging, that's her character, I just thought it was cool that I could hear it.

fr what's wrong with Qhns Shi's brother and her sister-in-law's relationship. She mentioned the 'ol good times but girl I see nothing in the man that is appealing. Even the hair is just sleazy?
She's legit doing all the work, I mean he has NO SKILLS. Like I got no skills too but he's on a different level. Not only do you have no skills, but you also need to have people to take care of you. It's not neutral, it's negative.

And they have a kid? I think there was a shot of their kid, where did the kid go? Extra plus points to the divorce I they do because does he take care of this supposed kid.

I can understand some attachments characters have because in the past they did xxx and they have such a long history together, but idk why they're even together, IDK why he's attractive, there are no flashbacks to their past, etc-why one earth are we ever going to root for these two. ew.

???
This is not only filler, it's hella questionable filler.
I mean it like sometimes I hate random scenes, but in this case, I'm legitimately confused as to what the writers are trying to say with these two. All the other characters are nuanced etc, but I don't think this character is nuanced. Are there any good sides to his character that we've seen? The bottom line; one shouldn't cheat, abuse, or greatly manipulate their spouse. He's cheated. He doesn't do work. He doesn't do household chores. He spends money he shouldn't spend. His wife has to pick him up and clubs. He doesn't even care about his wife half of the time until he's kicked out and doesn't have anywhere to go. You tell me what's so great about your husband. Girl, you can do better! Please tell me she has a love interest coming right up?

ooh, but in this pretend scenario, seeing the crazy drama with crypto rn, maybe also sell them off in time lol.

I'd do smaller but increasingly valuable companies to not raise suspicions though. And also not try to have earned in every single investment (unlike Dojoon) or it would be kind offff sus, I'm sure there would be investigations. You know, maybe real estate really would be the way to go long-term lol.

I understand what you're saying, and also-props to the actor. I think this will be sort of convoluted though, because it can be technically anything. Firstly, I think his relationship with Wu Fei is definitely real and both genuinely love each other. The problem comes with Qin Shi. In his point of view, he understood that his mother had a lot of issues with Qin Shi's background, and also that he somehow just never sort of getting around to tell or confront his mother throughout the seven years...?, but not understanding it as the underlying reason for their breakup. Qin Shi, from previous episodes, apparently just left a note and left (may not be exact, something along those lines), so he doesn't know. Fast forward two years later and she's 'married', he's engaged. Then later finding out that they have an apparent 'two and a half year-old'-which hugely equates to cheating, as Qin Shi mentioned. I think those are reasons related to regret, confusion, being left on the line with no news or understanding at all-lingering confusions and the need to resolve things. He's also a prideful man, so I think regardless of the revelation of the child, there were still scenes of him like at the bar, etc, dealing with the idea of news of her marriage. As their breakup was sort of..out of the blue, I don't think they technically stopped loving each other, or appreciating each other, but it couldn't work for them. Knowing someone else could do what he supposedly couldn't, I can see the pride there. And with his unresolved feelings from the end of the relationship (being left in the dark) I can see why he acts that way; and I guess it's whiplash for her to act so similar but with a different partner, and that he can't really express it.

But here's the thing, the show also definitely added the sort of maybe-maybe not element of hinting at him still liking Qin Shi, which from the recent episode, I think could be true. I think both scenarios could work for his current feelings towards Qin Shi, which is a mix of literally everything, but I would say I'm computing the side of the show needing to play off a contrast of Yang Hua vs Tao Jun Hui. The last few episodes also really established him as a very accomplished, ideal (at least on the surface) man, and I think the show's playing off a sort of usual male lead type character vs the current male lead and how it doesn't always have to be people like Tao Jun Hui.

So it's sort of yes, his character might, but also maybe, it doesn't fit with his character and it's a dynamic the show is going for.

You mentioned pleasing his mother-definitely, I can see that after Qin Shi he definitely purposely went for girls with a 'good background', but I don't think that means he's just going out with Wu Fei because of his mother; however, his mother's unrelenting standards and his conformity to her guided and influenced his approach to finding love. Speaking of which, one of the problems with this ideal-like character is definitely his inability to stick up for his girlfriend (he's not a lone wolf, super common rich family dynamic type cliche in dramas), and his superior-ish, controlling aspect to his behavior which shouldn't be romanticized. But all and all, he's not a horrible egg, and his turmoil is relatable.

By the way, I don't think he actually loves Qin Shi; at least not in the way he used to. He still cares for her, but I think they both moved on and he loves Wu Fei (doesn't mean his flaws went away). Still, I think he's trying to control that end to the relationship he was not privy to, and lets say he actually somehow got back with her, I think he would suddenly definitely lose interest, because it's not the person, it's the circumstances around the person (Qin Shi) his entire behaviour is about.

I agree with everything you said except for the time he forcefully drags her away-that's not acceptable. Apart from that, he also knocked in some good advice to Qin Shi in the recent episodes-you can see his disappointment with the way Qin Shi had been dealing with herself and work and wanted her to get better.