To those who say it is not as messy or is not as bold with NC-scenes: can it be that the NC-scenes boldness we refer to comes from Jojo's directing style&screenwriting? It seems to me that while both Ninew and Jojo direct wonderful NC-scenes, they are different, like two people see and feel things differently. Jojo is not mentioned as part of the crew for this season at all, and it might then create the difference that can come across this way. That it is not less messy, it is just a different way to see & show.
Jack and Dean may have reconciled, or at least performed whatever PR‑approved version of “we’re fine now”…
When it comes to Jack and Dean, we are in for a long ride here. It is only episode 3, and there are obviously deeper issues that will bring more instability. Jack had to go to a rehab - which is good because it means he took it seriously and treated it as his responsibility (although that we do not know yet - last season we have seen how long it took Ray to get to that point and how much hurt he inflicted on people around him. I love that here we see another part of that path - that of after the rehab, because it is does not end when a person leaves rehab).
We also see in this episode how Jack does not even want to remember that time - it is a strong sign of his balance being actually fragile. I think we will see down the line him spiraling into drinking at some point, because those parts of him were not healed yet.
Generally, what they said to each other during their fight is showing deep underlying issues from both sides that will keep reemerging until truly healed - and exes getting back together often ends up with a breakup because of such issues. I expect it to be painful.
However, I loved this moment of their reconsiliation so much. Sakuya of Hoshi Wa Utau says: "I think there are wounds that can be healed only by the people who inflicted them". No saying that we are helpless in the face of a wound, but the moments like these are so rare and so precious, regardless of whether it brings togetherness in the end.
That being said, I loved your point "You wanted your boyfriend to depend on you, but you never once built a space where depending on you felt safe." Thank you for saying that. I personally needed to hear that and I did not even know about it.
As for the messiness, this season is messy enough to me. Maybe it is a different kind of messiness, the one coming from a mix of genuine hearwarming emotions and crossing the boundaries. Eg Dean lying his way into Jack's aparatment screams boundary violation and is not okay from any point of view. In that same space him cleaning the place out felt so quietly caring. this alone showed the living connection stronger than any words or direct interaction could. These two things exist in the same space and it IS already messy as hell.
Raffy is already messy as hell, and it is only episode 3.
main characters dialogues feel more like a draft of a dialogue to me. Like what they say is the meaning and impression they should convey while the actual lines should be different.
In general, it feels like 2 shows in parallel to me - one with the main characters and another one with the killer. How come we saw no interaction between Jade and Jay this episode? You brother is in danger, Jade!
right?!! I'm quite surprised by it because gmmtv always includes progressive topics in most of their series so…
and thank you for putting this list together! I also had an impression/expectation the BL stories to be more on the progressive side, and in the article I shared before they name some activists who campaign for abortion rights in Thailand.
And yeah - patriarchy sucks and should be dismantled.
right?!! I'm quite surprised by it because gmmtv always includes progressive topics in most of their series so…
I am also surprised. Here is what I found: abortion was decriminalized in Thailand only 4 years ago, and as of today women still face huge limitations in reality - in comparison to what the law now prescribes. Also, doctors are allowed to decline abortion if it goes against their personal beliefs or whatever.
I realize that JD can act in a plot that does not make much sense (to me) and I can even see that they are acting acting, and still I notice I watch them being lovey dovey with a wide genuine smile on my face.
I watched the final episode of Burnout Syndrome twice, and honestly, I could probably watch it again and still…
What a beautiful, deep and insightful comment, thank you so much for that!
Among others for this line: "It’s love, but it’s also labor, emotional and creative, and Jira refuses to pretend that labor is weightless."
It allowed me to grasp the emotion underlining that move.
PS. In the novel Koh agrees to the price, with payment in 277 monthly installments. It was their own way of promising to spend their lives together.
PPS. I also noticed people in Koh's home, and I tried to make sense of the noises that were coming from that space. I wonder if Koh opened his parent's old factory again.
Dew has his own BL as the male lead coming out this year!
Uggh, they say in the comments below that it is not a BL but a bromance - it is called Mr.Kill . I was 100% sure it is going to be a BL, but I see now that at the series page there is confusion and even battles about it.
This has been an amazing ride. 10 weeks of masterful storytelling, acting, framing, music. I have yet never listened to the whole OST of a series regularly how I did with the Burnout syndrome OST.
P'Nuchy created such a captivating story - and so piercing in its actuality. And the actors executed her vision with such artistry that I often forget to breath witnessing their performances.
Like in the last scene, we see Koh seeing the picture seemingly not changing his facial expression, but it conveyed such a deep emotion. He drank that picture in. He was impressed. He was captivated. He was longing. And he was crying long before we saw his tears streaming down his face.
It is moments like this that make me rewatch them several times.
Throughout the series, I was impressed by Off so many time - and I was even worried for him in the beginning, seeing how real his insomniac exhaustion looked like.
Dew was truly a discovery to me. Each episode he was opening from yet another side. His portrayal of deeply flawed and human Pheem shone with different colors in each episode. In the final episode it was like Pheem in his final form - for this story, for this chapter of his life. Beautiful, sad, but also resolved and open.
His words to Jira on artists and AI having each their own audience is the true message of P'Nuchy, and it feels meaningful and significant that she gave these lines to Pheem. And Dew delivered them with such love and care. I thought that it was not only Pheem speaking to Jira, but also Dew speaking to all the artists and creative people going through a crisis right now.
Pheem as a character earned my respect and affection - not for "who he is" but for "what decisions he made". Each of us has power to make new decisions and seek change.
Gun's performance was what initially locked me in (together with Pheem-Jira chemistry I was feeling so much in the first 4 EPs). Jira is a complex character, and Gun portrayed that complexity in such a natural manner. My favorite Gun is the Gun whose character is listening to their partner and responding to what he hears with different facial expressions. We are on this journey together with him.
Ing is a friend we all need - and I hope she has a person like her in her life. All of us who happened to become support for other people know how much we also need someone to lean on and to tell all our stories.
Last but not least - Mawin, a good friend to Pheem, in good and in bad times. The expressions they exchanged with Pheem when "Do not answer" contact called him was pure gold, and it was not just comedy gold but human relationship gold. Him using his chance to apologize to Jira was a good call, and telling Jira where he stands on Pheem and Jira relationship was also so good. Lets not forget the "If you mean the result... then it looks like a tie" :D
It was an amazing series. I will miss it in the ongoing version, and I am glad that we have it as a full story now. And of course, I will keep listening to the OST.
Thank you so much for watching it and discussing it together throughout all this time. It made it all so much more fun, gave so many new insights and perspectives. It will be great to meet you again at other titles too.
The one year time skip was important because we can see that Pheem has finally healed. That lingering good bye…
I think Pheem looked at peace already at the gallery - when Jira talk about the painting of him and Koh, Pheem is listening to him with a light smile that shows relief of being at peace with the fact that his love story was over.
We also see in this episode how Jack does not even want to remember that time - it is a strong sign of his balance being actually fragile. I think we will see down the line him spiraling into drinking at some point, because those parts of him were not healed yet.
Generally, what they said to each other during their fight is showing deep underlying issues from both sides that will keep reemerging until truly healed - and exes getting back together often ends up with a breakup because of such issues. I expect it to be painful.
However, I loved this moment of their reconsiliation so much. Sakuya of Hoshi Wa Utau says: "I think there are wounds that can be healed only by the people who inflicted them". No saying that we are helpless in the face of a wound, but the moments like these are so rare and so precious, regardless of whether it brings togetherness in the end.
That being said, I loved your point "You wanted your boyfriend to depend on you, but you never once built a space where depending on you felt safe." Thank you for saying that. I personally needed to hear that and I did not even know about it.
As for the messiness, this season is messy enough to me. Maybe it is a different kind of messiness, the one coming from a mix of genuine hearwarming emotions and crossing the boundaries. Eg Dean lying his way into Jack's aparatment screams boundary violation and is not okay from any point of view. In that same space him cleaning the place out felt so quietly caring. this alone showed the living connection stronger than any words or direct interaction could. These two things exist in the same space and it IS already messy as hell.
Raffy is already messy as hell, and it is only episode 3.
In general, it feels like 2 shows in parallel to me - one with the main characters and another one with the killer. How come we saw no interaction between Jade and Jay this episode? You brother is in danger, Jade!
https://saafund.org/tamtang-noom-advocacy/
https://womenhelp.org/en/page/437/thailand-tamtang-group
And yeah - patriarchy sucks and should be dismantled.
https://www.safeabortionwomensright.org/news/thailand-thailands-abortion-law-was-changed-four-years-ago-but-access-via-public-hospital-services-is-still-limited/
Among others for this line: "It’s love, but it’s also labor, emotional and creative, and Jira refuses to pretend that labor is weightless."
It allowed me to grasp the emotion underlining that move.
PS. In the novel Koh agrees to the price, with payment in 277 monthly installments. It was their own way of promising to spend their lives together.
PPS. I also noticed people in Koh's home, and I tried to make sense of the noises that were coming from that space. I wonder if Koh opened his parent's old factory again.
Sorry for sharing the unconfirmed info!
I have yet never listened to the whole OST of a series regularly how I did with the Burnout syndrome OST.
P'Nuchy created such a captivating story - and so piercing in its actuality. And the actors executed her vision with such artistry that I often forget to breath witnessing their performances.
Like in the last scene, we see Koh seeing the picture seemingly not changing his facial expression, but it conveyed such a deep emotion. He drank that picture in. He was impressed. He was captivated. He was longing. And he was crying long before we saw his tears streaming down his face.
It is moments like this that make me rewatch them several times.
Throughout the series, I was impressed by Off so many time - and I was even worried for him in the beginning, seeing how real his insomniac exhaustion looked like.
Dew was truly a discovery to me. Each episode he was opening from yet another side. His portrayal of deeply flawed and human Pheem shone with different colors in each episode. In the final episode it was like Pheem in his final form - for this story, for this chapter of his life. Beautiful, sad, but also resolved and open.
His words to Jira on artists and AI having each their own audience is the true message of P'Nuchy, and it feels meaningful and significant that she gave these lines to Pheem. And Dew delivered them with such love and care. I thought that it was not only Pheem speaking to Jira, but also Dew speaking to all the artists and creative people going through a crisis right now.
Pheem as a character earned my respect and affection - not for "who he is" but for "what decisions he made". Each of us has power to make new decisions and seek change.
Gun's performance was what initially locked me in (together with Pheem-Jira chemistry I was feeling so much in the first 4 EPs). Jira is a complex character, and Gun portrayed that complexity in such a natural manner. My favorite Gun is the Gun whose character is listening to their partner and responding to what he hears with different facial expressions. We are on this journey together with him.
Ing is a friend we all need - and I hope she has a person like her in her life. All of us who happened to become support for other people know how much we also need someone to lean on and to tell all our stories.
Last but not least - Mawin, a good friend to Pheem, in good and in bad times. The expressions they exchanged with Pheem when "Do not answer" contact called him was pure gold, and it was not just comedy gold but human relationship gold. Him using his chance to apologize to Jira was a good call, and telling Jira where he stands on Pheem and Jira relationship was also so good. Lets not forget the "If you mean the result... then it looks like a tie" :D
It was an amazing series. I will miss it in the ongoing version, and I am glad that we have it as a full story now. And of course, I will keep listening to the OST.
Thank you so much for watching it and discussing it together throughout all this time. It made it all so much more fun, gave so many new insights and perspectives. It will be great to meet you again at other titles too.